The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-17-2010, 07:41 PM   #1
yote1234
Senior Member
 
yote1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gold Canyon Arizona
Posts: 4,265
are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

im just trying to get an education! im almost done with my restoration (72 cheyenne factory 350/350th 3.08 open) and was kinda thinking about changing out the th350 for a 2004r. i would like the lower rpm at 55-75mph. also looking for better mpg. just wanted to get your imput on if i will loose/gain performance,mpg ect.
__________________
1971 K5 CST Blazer
1972 short super c10
1965 Chevelle Malibu 283
1968 Camaro 327
1968 Honda mini-trail z50a #377
1966 uh 1-D Huey
yote1234 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 07:43 PM   #2
71meangreenc10
Its a Truck Thing......
 
71meangreenc10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Posts: 3,158
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

for what I have heard, no, its to low. 3.54-3.73 is what would make it more efficient with the 2004R.

Smitty
__________________
71 C10 283/3SPD Full Resto
71 GMC 1500 Sierra Grande http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=518599
70 C10 Suburban Former military GSA truck.
72 Chevy Blazer 4X4, Sloppy Jo, Mountain Climber. Wife says no more trucks. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707378
72 GMC 1 Ton Motor Home, wife said no more trucks until she saw this one. Gen 3 6.0/4L80E 4.10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=761110
68 GMC Suburban was 3/4 ton, now 1/2.Wife shook her head
71 C30 Wrecker
71 C20 Scott-Bilt As weird as it gets..BB Cheyenne AC Truck
68 GMC Long Stepside. They keep following me home
71 C20 Longhorn/Ole Yellor
69 C30 Former Motor Home, Flat Bed time
71meangreenc10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 07:45 PM   #3
bigguy69
dazed and confused
 
bigguy69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: marion nc
Posts: 1,649
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

__________________
members met: redbaron69, billsbowtie,nc67
bigguy69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 07:50 PM   #4
yote1234
Senior Member
 
yote1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gold Canyon Arizona
Posts: 4,265
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

i understood the th350 and the 2004r 1st,- 3rd gears are the same? is this wrong?
__________________
1971 K5 CST Blazer
1972 short super c10
1965 Chevelle Malibu 283
1968 Camaro 327
1968 Honda mini-trail z50a #377
1966 uh 1-D Huey
yote1234 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 08:47 PM   #5
clinebarger
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 6,370
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

Gear ratios of the 2004R are: 2.74 first, 1.57 second, 1.00 third, .67 fourth.
TH350 ratios= 1.52 first, 2.52 second, 1.00 third.

I also recommend running a higher numerical gear than a 3:08 with any GM overdrive.
clinebarger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 09:03 PM   #6
68GMCCustom
Truck and auto performance nut
 
68GMCCustom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: McKinney,Texas
Posts: 3,848
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

Quote:
Originally Posted by clinebarger View Post
Gear ratios of the 2004R are: 2.74 first, 1.57 second, 1.00 third, .67 fourth.
TH350 ratios= 1.52 first, 2.52 second, 1.00 third.

I also recommend running a higher numerical gear than a 3:08 with any GM overdrive.
I think you got 1st and 2nd ratios backwards on the t350.


I will be running a 200-4r and have 3.73 gears. My truck had 3.08's with the first motor and I got 3.73's. They were great with the 383 stroker I just took out...but turned 3k or so on the freeway. With the 33% OD....I'm thinking 3.73's will be about right....though 4.10's might be better fitted for what I'll be doing with it.
__________________
Kurt -

'68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy
'72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close
'06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD
'18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver
'95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto...

my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken
A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken
68GMCCustom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 09:32 PM   #7
clinebarger
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 6,370
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

[QUOTE=68GMCCustom;4245909]I think you got 1st and 2nd ratios backwards on the t350.


Whoops
clinebarger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 09:20 PM   #8
llowlife
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Elgin Mn
Posts: 112
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

I'll let you know in a week or 2 if you are still interested. I have a 388 with a 4l80 and 3.08 I suspect I will be going for 3.42 or so this winter just so I can get some more snap but for now it was a posi in teh truck when I bought it.
__________________
In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, brave hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him , for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
I am a revolutionary...so my son can be a farmer...so his son can be a poet. If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, so my child may have peace...

72 short step w/ 388 /4l80e/ and 3.08 gears.
llowlife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 09:27 PM   #9
bubba327
HOW long until spring??
 
bubba327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Star Idaho
Posts: 1,413
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

Do not forget that tire size makes a difference also.That going from a 235/60/15 (26.1") to a 235/70/15(28") is difference of over 200 RPM at 55 mph. Find a Free online RPM gear calculator and plug in your numbers to get RPM's
In my 64 with the 235/60/15 tires and TH350 with 3.73 gears , I am screaming at 65 mph and freeway 75mph is Impossible.
Just bought a 3.07 rear end to install.
__________________
69 chevelle convertible
71-C-10 short-wide and low
64 C-10 custom shortbox "Bubba"s Recycling project"
bubba327 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 08:00 AM   #10
rsavage
Registered User
 
rsavage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Alden NY
Posts: 2,705
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

I have a 70 Burb with 3.07's that I put a 200 4R in. For non-highway type driving, I don't use OD, just 3rd with a dash switch to lock up the torque converter when it shifts into 3rd. On the highway, the OD works fine. It turns about 1750 rpms at 66 mph on 235/70/15 tires. 3.73's would be ideal, I think, but your 3.08's will work if used as a 3 speed auto when not on the super slabs.
__________________
1961 C1 Corvette
1959 El Camino 350 TPI, 9" 4 w disc
69 Blazer K5 - sold July '20
2021 Durango RT 5.7
rsavage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 10:43 AM   #11
yote1234
Senior Member
 
yote1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gold Canyon Arizona
Posts: 4,265
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsavage View Post
I have a 70 Burb with 3.07's that I put a 200 4R in. For non-highway type driving, I don't use OD, just 3rd with a dash switch to lock up the torque converter when it shifts into 3rd. On the highway, the OD works fine. It turns about 1750 rpms at 66 mph on 235/70/15 tires. 3.73's would be ideal, I think, but your 3.08's will work if used as a 3 speed auto when not on the super slabs.
the problem is most all my driving is under55mph. rarly get on the freeway.
so i guess i'll keep the 350t.h. and save the money! yea! save the money!
thank you all for your repllies! and opionions! great info... dave
__________________
1971 K5 CST Blazer
1972 short super c10
1965 Chevelle Malibu 283
1968 Camaro 327
1968 Honda mini-trail z50a #377
1966 uh 1-D Huey
yote1234 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 10:44 AM   #12
turp mcspray
Registered User
 
turp mcspray's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Rapid City South Dakota
Posts: 2,359
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

I think the 200 has a .67 overdrive. Multiply that, times any gear ratio, and you will see what it would be equall to with a th350. (Example...3.08 x .67 = 2.06. .67 x 3.73 = 2.50) 3.08s would be great if you have a TON of low end torque to pull it in overdrive, or want to cruise at 100 plus all day! But then wind resistance would wipe out any mileage increase anyway.LOL!
__________________
Turp Mcspray
New life for an old 2wd, farm blazer
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=505987
My Blazer build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342299
turp mcspray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 12:10 PM   #13
brothers69c-10
Suburban Hick
 
brothers69c-10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Altoona, IA
Posts: 810
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

you could always just leave the th350 in and put like 2.73's or 2.56's in the rear end. It would have the same effect.

My 68 impala has a 396 325hp, th400 and 2.56 rear gears. Gets 18mpg in town.
__________________
Mathew
1947 Chevy 3600
1951 GMC 100
1969 Chevy C-10 396/500hp TH400 lowered 4"
1968 Imapla Custom 396/325hp TH400 "Grandmas Car"
1976 Crew Cab 4x4 diesel http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=488505
1978 Chevy K-10 454
1983 S10 4x4 "Bumblb" (Grandpa's truck)
1993 Chevy S10 V8 conversion
1990 Ford Probe Gt
1992 Dodge W-150 "Old Man's Truck"
1992 Pontiac Grand Prix SE
1992 Mercury Grand Marquis-Mercruiser
2000 Ford F150 (Currently my mother drives this)
1946 Farmall H with Stan Hoist loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Wheel Horse " Rat Tractor"
brothers69c-10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 12:52 PM   #14
yote1234
Senior Member
 
yote1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gold Canyon Arizona
Posts: 4,265
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

ahhhh... yea just stick with the 350th. thanx guyz.........
__________________
1971 K5 CST Blazer
1972 short super c10
1965 Chevelle Malibu 283
1968 Camaro 327
1968 Honda mini-trail z50a #377
1966 uh 1-D Huey
yote1234 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2010, 06:35 PM   #15
brothers69c-10
Suburban Hick
 
brothers69c-10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Altoona, IA
Posts: 810
Re: are 3.08 gears good with 200r4?

no problem man
__________________
Mathew
1947 Chevy 3600
1951 GMC 100
1969 Chevy C-10 396/500hp TH400 lowered 4"
1968 Imapla Custom 396/325hp TH400 "Grandmas Car"
1976 Crew Cab 4x4 diesel http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=488505
1978 Chevy K-10 454
1983 S10 4x4 "Bumblb" (Grandpa's truck)
1993 Chevy S10 V8 conversion
1990 Ford Probe Gt
1992 Dodge W-150 "Old Man's Truck"
1992 Pontiac Grand Prix SE
1992 Mercury Grand Marquis-Mercruiser
2000 Ford F150 (Currently my mother drives this)
1946 Farmall H with Stan Hoist loader
1965 John Deere 110
1961 Wheel Horse " Rat Tractor"
brothers69c-10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com