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Old 04-28-2017, 09:12 PM   #1
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S10 vs c/k1500 vs silverado, I want to go fast!

Hi all, I don't have a truck yet but I'm dead set on chevy, because they're the best of course. This will be a long post as I tend to ramble. Please stay with me. I don't know exactly what I want but I know I want to go fast. I'm no stranger to building engines, I had a 1992 eagle talon that ran 10's that still had full interior.

Anyway 1st off I like SMALL trucks. Regardless of what I get it will be a regular cab short bed, most likely 4x4 manual trans.

I figure I'm going to spend around 3,500 bucks for the truck and another 3,500 in mods off the bat. I'll have to save up for further mods. I think 3500 should be able to get me a decent starter truck.

Okay so there is the s10/sonoma. They are the smallest and lightest which I like. To go fast, there is the wynjammer supercharger. It comes with fuel and a computer for $3,100. I'll figure another $400 for odds and ends. It supposedly gets 275 horsepower to the wheels, which I think in that small of a truck is plenty. My only issue is the lack of other aftermarket for the 4.3 v6. You can't even get long tube headers for them. I know everyone is going to say V8 SWAP! but that's out of my area of expertise. I could make it a quick little truck, but I just don't know about the 4.3

Next would be a c/k1500 with a 350 vortec. I'd possibly even get a tahoe/yukon two door but I like the idea of a truck better. It'd have to be 96+. They seem to be hard to find in manual trans with a 350. It's like finding the holy grail to find a reg cab short bed manual 4x4 350 in good condition for just $3500 bucks. I could spend a little more on the initial purchase I guess but thats if I can even find one for sale. What I do like is the chevy 350 in them. Any hill billy shop can work on them and make good power. One thing is these trucks are bigger. I don't like that at all. Wynjammer supercharger is still on the table, but I don't think it would be as fast as the s10 out of the box. HOWEVER I think the aftermarket of the 350 would make up for it and it has more potential! Again Wynjammer comes with fuel and a computer for cheap so I like that.

Lastly there would be the 2000+ silverados with the LS engines. Again, bigger truck than a s10 which I don't like, manual seems hard to find and if you do, they only come in 4.8. Also it would be tougher to find a clean example for 3500 bucks (BUT possible! I've done it already, automatic trans however.)
For speed the sky is the limit. On3 has a turbo kit for these trucks and it's nicely priced around $3500 bucks. The truck would absolutely scream with even a single turbo. It does NOT come with everything I would need though. I would need to get exhaust from the downpipe back (at least $500) some type of tuning computer ($500-$1500) and then someone to dyno tune it (another $500 at least) Not to mention I'd need more odds and ends to complete the turbo kit install which I'd budget around another $500 bucks but I bet I'm vastly underestimating that cost. So I'd have to figure in another $3000 bucks at least which I don't really have. You know how much it would suck just having a turbo kit sit in a box in the corner for 2-3 months while I save up money to put it on?

Anyway what would you get? I'm leaning towards the s10 because they're easy to find, cheap, can be quick right out of the box with the supercharger, I can afford it, and its the smallest which I like.
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Old 04-29-2017, 01:31 PM   #2
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Re: S10 vs c/k1500 vs silverado, I want to go fast!

I would go the S10 route because I also enjoys small trucks. Being 4x4 will complicate things some but still doable... I would skip the charger on the 4.3. beyond that performance kinda drops off. However putting in a small block will be easier, cheaper, and performance for those are endless... That would be my route of choice... A manual for them in factory 4x4 would be nv3500... Good for maybe 325 or so hp so you would have to watch it... Or go manual shift automatic...
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Old 04-29-2017, 01:33 PM   #3
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And I forgot, welcome! This board is a wealth of knowledge. We also have a hot rod section for track guys if you get serious lol
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Old 04-29-2017, 01:50 PM   #4
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Re: S10 vs c/k1500 vs silverado, I want to go fast!

I would go with the rcsb rt. with a full size truck. No 4x4 or stick as there is just to much breakage when playing.
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I would go the S10 route because I also enjoys small trucks. Being 4x4 will complicate things some but still doable... I would skip the charger on the 4.3. beyond that performance kinda drops off. However putting in a small block will be easier, cheaper, and performance for those are endless... That would be my route of choice... A manual for them in factory 4x4 would be nv3500... Good for maybe 325 or so hp so you would have to watch it... Or go manual shift automatic...
I'd love to swap a 350 into a s10 but like I said it's outside my means. My buddy used to own a shop with a lift and tools but doesn't anymore so I don't have access to any of that stuff anymore. I'd have to pay a shop to do it and I don't even know where to look for a performance shop in my area anymore. With the supercharger I could bolt it on with hand tools myself in a couple hours.

Anyway I don't want to get too serious with it. Mid 13's is all I want to be able to run in the 1/4. Thats kind of why I was shying away from the 2000+ LS trucks with a turbo kit because thats a little more work than I want to do. It would scream though.

My next question is how fragile is the 4x4 and the manual trans in these trucks? I wouldn't do 4 wheel launches at the drag strip or anything, I mainly wanted 4x4 just for winter driving. If it's going to grenade on me if I make any significant sort of power then thats really a no-go. I can live with an automatic and 2x4, especially in the full size trucks because thats all I can find them in anyway.

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When you start drag racing it doesn't matter what engine ,Trans or rear you are running you will more than likely break things. Even if you are running a 4x4 in 2wd it is putting power thru the transfer case so you are adding something to break. As far as engine swaps I did my first one when I was a senior in high school with a tripod made from trees we cut down and a borrowed chain fall outside in January. As far as having 4x4 for winter driving it is nice but unless you live on a long driveway it really isn't needed. My uses her 4x4 about three times a year and I just use a tote of sand for traction in my 2wd truck. I did have to shovel out of a snow bank a couple years ago it took 10 minutes.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:21 AM   #7
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Re: S10 vs c/k1500 vs silverado, I want to go fast!

S10 would be my choice, though if I was doing much racing I'd shy away from a 4x4. Certainly wouldn't be my preference to have that transfer case just hanging on for dear life.

I happen to like 4.3s pretty well...my '89 S10 was a fast little bugger, despite the 3.08 the PO had ordered from the factory. That being said, if I was in the market for relatively inexpensive power, v8 swap is the direction I'd go.

If you're cagy about doing the swap yourself, there's Plenty of s10s on Craigslist that have already been converted to v8 power. For $3500 you should be able to get a decent one.

EDIT: to your transmission question, s10s and the 1/2 ton fullsize trucks all share the same auto trans(4l60e, 700r4 for pre-'94), and I think the manual trans is the same too (nv3500). Neither is a bad transmission, though I would think the lower weight of the s10 would tend to make them last longer.

EDIT EDIT: here's a V8 5-speed swap close to me.
http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/cto/6078187136.html
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