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Old 01-16-2016, 05:40 PM   #1
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Daddyjeep Hauler - 85 K30 crew cab short bed

So I finally drug the truck into the shop so I can get started on this project. I picked up this truck about a month ago and it is in need of a little love. It hasn't been registered since 2003 so I'm going to have to go through everything. I'm going to cut it down to a short bed and eventually drop in a 6.0. For now I have to focus on the short bed conversion and replacing the rockers and front floors. I go to the Bantam Jeep Heritage Festival every year with my YJ so I need the truck functioning by June to use it to drag the Jeep there. Lots to do.

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Old 01-16-2016, 05:49 PM   #2
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Cool rig and sounds like a good plan. Going to keep it a dually or go single rear wheel? What's the specs on the truck? June will be here before you know it!!! Looks like a nice shop to work in.
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Old 01-16-2016, 05:58 PM   #3
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Re: Daddyjeep Hauler - 85 K30 crew cab short bed

You are right MTCK, I need to put my signature together. It is a 454, auto, D60/D70, A/C, power everything. The interior is really clean aside from the rust. I plan on single rear wheel. Yes, I am spoiled with my shop. The lady we bought the house from said nobody wanted the place because of the 4080 shop. I agreed and asked her to drop the price.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:12 AM   #4
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Re: Daddyjeep Hauler - 85 K30 crew cab short bed

So I finally messed with the truck and little tonight. I took the two, yes two, bolts that held on the fifth wheel hitch on out so I could yank it out of the bed. I can't believe someone hauled trailers with two 1/2 inch bolts. I also investigated things a little and got a pic of this.

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The bed is really nice for this part of the country. Just look at that floor.

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Here she is in all her rusty glory. Hopefully I can make some steady progress now.

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I tried unbolting the bed mounting bolts and to my surprise they actually turned...for a little while. The head started turning in the bed. On to plan B. What is the best method to remove them? I was thinking drilling out the heads would probably be the easiest.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:07 AM   #5
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Will you be finding new axles or using single wheels in dually offset?
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:21 AM   #6
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I tried unbolting the bed mounting bolts and to my surprise they actually turned...for a little while. The head started turning in the bed. On to plan B. What is the best method to remove them? I was thinking drilling out the heads would probably be the easiest.
I would tack weld the head to the bed floor....unbolt, then cut the small tacks off. MUCH easier than drilling out the carriage bolts.
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Will you be finding new axles or using single wheels in dually offset?
Not sure yet. I am trying to make a deal on a 3/4 ton suburban or a 3/4 ton truck with the 6.0 I want. If either of those deals works out I will have the right axle too. That could cost me more in the long run though if the gear ratios don't match up. Worse case, I will just run wheel spacers for the time being.

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I would tack weld the head to the bed floor....unbolt, then cut the small tacks off. MUCH easier than drilling out the carriage bolts.
I thought about that, or welding nuts to the head. That way I could clean up and re-use the carriage bolts.
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Old 02-05-2016, 05:35 AM   #8
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Ive got a crew short bed I built for hauling my jeeps too. Im running an 8.1/4l80e combo though.
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Ive got a crew short bed I built for hauling my jeeps too. Im running an 8.1/4l80e combo though.
Me too, but I didn't build mine. My UAW pals in Flint did
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Re: Daddyjeep Hauler - 85 K30 crew cab short bed

somehow I screwed up and move the original pic of the Jeep so here is another.

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Not sure yet. I am trying to make a deal on a 3/4 ton suburban or a 3/4 ton truck with the 6.0 I want. If either of those deals works out I will have the right axle too. That could cost me more in the long run though if the gear ratios don't match up. Worse case, I will just run wheel spacers for the time being.



I thought about that, or welding nuts to the head. That way I could clean up and re-use the carriage bolts.
I thought dually axles were significantly wider than SRW, so spacers would do the opposite of what you'd want if trying to mount SRW wheels.

The donor trucks will be IFS so unless you're going 2WD you'd need more.
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Re: Daddyjeep Hauler - 85 K30 crew cab short bed

I haven't measured anything yet, but it was my understanding that the dually rear axle is 4" narrower than the front. I'll know more when I get things torn apart...hopefully this weekend.
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I thought I had read of folks using H1 rims with squally axles since they have a ton of back spacing.

Willy do you have a build thread for that thing? I want to see more but not hijack...
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I would tack weld the head to the bed floor....unbolt, then cut the small tacks off. MUCH easier than drilling out the carriage bolts.
This worked beautifully, Thanks.

So obviously I got the bed bolts out. I even got the bed off after that.

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I then started fighting with the rusty hitch and bumper bolts. Luckily all but three of the bolts broke. Those last three took a 3' cheater all the way off.

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I removed all of the unnecessary brackets and started wire wheeling the frame. To my surprise, the frame has very little pitting under the scale.

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close up of the frame.

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Here is what has been taken off, including about a 20 pound pile of rust.

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That's a good looking TJ there WildWilly. I thought I saw somewhere that you have a 2A as well. I have a 2A that will eventually become an active project. Your hauler is very nice too.
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I thought I had read of folks using H1 rims with squally axles since they have a ton of back spacing.

Willy do you have a build thread for that thing? I want to see more but not hijack...
I never did make a build thread on it, Im too lazy to keep up with those. I did a build thread once on pirate4x4 on my willys jeep, but im just not good about remembering to take pics. If you have any questions about it I'd love to help though.
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I might be interested in the section of frame you cut out if you want to part with it
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I might be interested in the section of frame you cut out if you want to part with it
Keep watching and remind me when I cut it.
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Ok how much are you cutting out and what type cut are you going with (the front section)
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I'm going to do the "z" cut I guess it's called.

I-----,___I. Kinda like that. 14"
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I like the z cut to I I was asking I wasn't sure on how much you had to cut out to do a short bed I just know I you had to cut some out of the middle and some off the very end thanks
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From what I understand, 14" in the middle and 6" in the back.
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