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el curioso · 10-17-2005, 01:33 AM

Whats the difference between a 1970 c10 and a 1969 c10?

longhorn71 · 10-17-2005, 01:37 AM

the plastic grill insert is different in the two years.The vinyl door panels on the 69 only had a bowtie on them.It was in the upper middle of the panel.Hope this helps

Longhorn Man · 10-17-2005, 05:31 AM

Some didn't come with the bow tie in the door panel, I think it was early model 69 did, late model 69 didn't. Or Vice-Versa.
Either way, 70 had wood paneling at the top of the door panel.
There were a few other odd differences... if there is no inside mirror, and no holes for on... it'd be a 69 since it was standard first in 70.... ect.
But the grill insert is the only thing you'd see from outside... and that is not a sure thing since they stopped making the 70 grill deckades ago and the 69 has been the official replacement part...even though it is not right.

RicksTrucks · 10-17-2005, 12:34 PM

Both my 69 and 70 have the same type of inside mirror, just a different cover.

**pjmoreland** · 10-17-2005, 12:52 PM

Later '70 models have longer rear axles.

tomatocity · 10-17-2005, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by longhorn71

the plastic grill insert is different in the two years. The vinyl door panels on the 69 only had a bowtie on them. It was in the upper middle of the panel. Hope this helps

Does anyone have pics to show the differences of the grille insert, door panel, rearview mirror, and anything else? Thanks.

boraxman · 10-17-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pjmoreland

Later '70 models have longer rear axles.

Some but not all, I hear it was a mid year change.

Mine has the wider rear.

**pjmoreland** · 10-17-2005, 03:18 PM

Here are some images from an old Golden State catalog I have. The first grille is a 1969, and the second is a 1970.

LUV2XCLR8 · 10-17-2005, 04:23 PM

I was always told the headlight trim square thingamabobbers were
different, one was painted and one was chrome, can't confirm it

chevybill · 10-17-2005, 04:52 PM

I think the painted and chrome headlight surrounds had to do with if it was a base model or higher like cst.

**special-K** · 10-17-2005, 04:55 PM

The headlight doors are black painted steel on both years,not supplied through repro.I`ve seen the opposite in repro grilles,70s being the only one available.I`ve seen alot of trucks for sale that are`69s w/`70 grilles,too.

BowTieMan · 10-17-2005, 10:37 PM

Also I think 69's only had reflector side markers and 70's had the lighted one. Thats what I heared and the back ones I got off a 69 were just reflectors.

Longhorn Man · 10-17-2005, 11:18 PM

69 markers were optional... 70 they were standard.

rkarr · 10-18-2005, 02:38 AM

I bought a '69... All side markers were NOT powered... reflectors only.
As far as the Grille goes, I have to agree with PJ.
Hope it helps.

tomatocity · 10-18-2005, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pjmoreland

Here are some images from an old Golden State catalog I have. The first grille is a 1969, and the second is a 1970.

Thanks for teh information. I have two grill (both banged up) with the 69 inner grill with one being silver and the other being black. Don't know what that means but that is what they are. Another thing I noticed was the slight notching on the inner grill approximately above and below the "C" and "T" of the center bar. What is the deal with the slight notches? BTW both grills have black around the headlights. Not because I have one but I like the 69 inner grill better than the 70 inner grill. I am up for a trade if someone has a 70 inner grill and wants a 69 inner grill.

70 shorty · 10-18-2005, 12:37 PM

I asked this same question when I first got my 70 last year and the above catalog picture helps me even more, I couldn't tell the difference btwn 69 and 70 grilles, but it's very apparent above.

Longhorn Man · 10-18-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rkarr

I bought a '69... All side markers were NOT powered... reflectors only...

Do NOT go by side markers to tell the year... there were planty that had the OPTIONAL side marker LIGHTS in 69, and a hand full in 68. If you got a cab/chassis model, you were REQUIRED to get them on both 68 and 69.

el curioso · 10-20-2005, 10:15 AM

Thank you.

70c10stepside · 12-25-2012, 01:33 AM

My 70 has a 69 grille apparently. Damn.
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randywa · 12-25-2012, 09:51 AM

This has good cab and grill info.

http://www.pattson.com/maych/67_72_chevy.htm

68gmsee · 12-25-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 70c10stepside

My 70 has a 69 grille apparently. Damn.
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If it's in good shape and not cracked or broken like most of them you're doing good -even it it is one year different. But if you're doing a period correct restoration you may be able swap it with someone else.

After over 40 years, lots of swapping have been done on these trucks. Once you recognize the differences -some minor -you find out how much this has happened. I see a lot of trucks advertised as 68 with 69 or later front clips and vice versa.

*Mister-B* · 12-25-2012, 11:22 AM

The 70 grill insert is essentially a 69 grill, painted differently to give the appearance of lines. Theres another thread about this. I've seen one at the junk yard up close, and sure enough it's just painted to resemble vertical lines.
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69GWC · 12-25-2012, 12:32 PM

My 69 with a repop grill and my 70 with a 1970 grill
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preciador6 · 09-16-2016, 06:00 PM

Great info

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 01-22-2018, 07:06 PM

I was going to start a thread because I don't know 69-70s very well..............Good information here. At least I can differentiate grilles now

I can add something about a 70 C-10, from my 71 C-10 edgeucation. Some had the same EEC system as a 71. It was a California requirement, maybe more................................ Both the 70 C-10 with EEC and all 71 C-10 used the same gas cap for the cab tank. Without verifying, my guess is they used the same parts from the gas cap to the vapor canister. I can also say the 72 had a different system. They added a return line (sender/pump), it takes a different cap, and I think it uses a different tank.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but 69 & prior did not have EEC.

Edit: Anyone know the paint/body trim variances for 69-70? Seems one or both had an additional option over 71-72. Same schemes as 71-72, but an additional option for the secondary color under the lower belt. Like this: https://ccpublic.blob.core.windows.n...10-thumb-c.jpg

10-17-2005, 01:33 AM	#1
el curioso Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: El paso, Tx. Posts: 428	1969 vs 1970 c10 Whats the difference between a 1970 c10 and a 1969 c10?

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longhorn71 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: CANADA Posts: 1,681	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 the plastic grill insert is different in the two years.The vinyl door panels on the 69 only had a bowtie on them.It was in the upper middle of the panel.Hope this helps

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Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 Some didn't come with the bow tie in the door panel, I think it was early model 69 did, late model 69 didn't. Or Vice-Versa. Either way, 70 had wood paneling at the top of the door panel. There were a few other odd differences... if there is no inside mirror, and no holes for on... it'd be a 69 since it was standard first in 70.... ect. But the grill insert is the only thing you'd see from outside... and that is not a sure thing since they stopped making the 70 grill deckades ago and the 69 has been the official replacement part...even though it is not right.

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RicksTrucks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Claremore, OK 74017 Posts: 2,640	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 Both my 69 and 70 have the same type of inside mirror, just a different cover. __________________ 68 Short Stepside C-10 69 SWB C-10 70 Flatbed C-20 70 LWB C-20 BB402 70 LWB C-10 CST 70 LWB C-10 CST 71 Short Stepside Cheyenne C-10 72 LWB C-10 72 Blazer 4x4 4spd 95 Jeep Cherokee 4x4

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pjmoreland Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 5,289	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 Later '70 models have longer rear axles.

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pjmoreland Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 5,289	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 Here are some images from an old Golden State catalog I have. The first grille is a 1969, and the second is a 1970. Attached Images Last edited by pjmoreland; 10-17-2005 at 03:22 PM.

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chevybill Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: calhoun city ms Posts: 940	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 I think the painted and chrome headlight surrounds had to do with if it was a base model or higher like cst. __________________ ongoing 1970 c 10 lwb 1994 z-28 few mods.-owned since new 1978 vette silver/grey 25th anniv. paint

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special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 The headlight doors are black painted steel on both years,not supplied through repro.I`ve seen the opposite in repro grilles,70s being the only one available.I`ve seen alot of trucks for sale that are`69s w/`70 grilles,too. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

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BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 Also I think 69's only had reflector side markers and 70's had the lighted one. Thats what I heared and the back ones I got off a 69 were just reflectors. __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo

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Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 69 markers were optional... 70 they were standard.

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rkarr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 152	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 I bought a '69... All side markers were NOT powered... reflectors only. As far as the Grille goes, I have to agree with PJ. Hope it helps.

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70 shorty Where's my beer? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glen Allen, VA Posts: 1,768	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 I asked this same question when I first got my 70 last year and the above catalog picture helps me even more, I couldn't tell the difference btwn 69 and 70 grilles, but it's very apparent above. __________________ 70 C10, shortstep, .30 over 250,Hurst shifted 3 spd parts hauler. Holley 390, Clifford Intake, Header, ported cylinder head, unknown bigger cam. 79 Corvette L82, 4 spd, black, red interior, headers, flowmasters, and unkown bigger cam. '03 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 4x4 daily driver. 165K miles, and runs great '08 Tahoe LTZ 4x4 155K

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el curioso Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: El paso, Tx. Posts: 428	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 Thank you.

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randywa Registered User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Republic, Mo. Posts: 34	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 This has good cab and grill info. http://www.pattson.com/maych/67_72_chevy.htm

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Mister-B Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,331	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 The 70 grill insert is essentially a 69 grill, painted differently to give the appearance of lines. Theres another thread about this. I've seen one at the junk yard up close, and sure enough it's just painted to resemble vertical lines. Posted via Mobile Device

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71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,129	Re: 1969 vs 1970 c10 I was going to start a thread because I don't know 69-70s very well..............Good information here. At least I can differentiate grilles now I can add something about a 70 C-10, from my 71 C-10 edgeucation. Some had the same EEC system as a 71. It was a California requirement, maybe more................................ Both the 70 C-10 with EEC and all 71 C-10 used the same gas cap for the cab tank. Without verifying, my guess is they used the same parts from the gas cap to the vapor canister. I can also say the 72 had a different system. They added a return line (sender/pump), it takes a different cap, and I think it uses a different tank. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 69 & prior did not have EEC. Edit: Anyone know the paint/body trim variances for 69-70? Seems one or both had an additional option over 71-72. Same schemes as 71-72, but an additional option for the secondary color under the lower belt. Like this: https://ccpublic.blob.core.windows.n...10-thumb-c.jpg __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s details such as OEM identifications& part numbers, written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025 Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 01-22-2018 at 07:46 PM.

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