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Old 05-03-2019, 07:15 PM   #201
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Re: K30 Downgrade to Cummins Project

Thanks for the update. Looking good.
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:00 PM   #202
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Thanks for the update. Looking good.
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Mounts done, engine in for the last time and bolted down
The slots in them are an example of some parts of this build where I'm taking a bit more time to make things serviceable. I could have settled for just holes but then I'd have to pull the engine just to replace a mount since the mounts are at an angle.

Trans is in jail at the trans shop. Dropped it off 4 weeks ago. Back then they thought 2 weeks until they could look at it. Called 2 days ago and left a VM for an update and no call back yet
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^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either
'86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649
'71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642
'72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:29 PM   #203
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Re: K30 Downgrade to Cummins Project

Awesome, looks like it belongs in there!!!
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:47 PM   #204
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Re: K30 Downgrade to Cummins Project

Small thought for you, the oil fill spot I noticed may be in the way like mine was for the upper radiator hose. The extension is the same thread as the cap itself so if it’s too tall you can replace the extension with just the cap.
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Old 05-21-2019, 12:00 AM   #205
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Re: K30 Downgrade to Cummins Project

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Awesome, looks like it belongs in there!!!
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Small thought for you, the oil fill spot I noticed may be in the way like mine was for the upper radiator hose. The extension is the same thread as the cap itself so if it’s too tall you can replace the extension with just the cap.
Good tip! I think the 2nd gen hose will clear it but if not, good info.


Time for an update on the build. I've been dealing with a couple distractions lately, getting an old mower ready for cuttting season. Any other Toro Groundsmaster fans here? This model 72 has a pretty good running 4cylinder watercooled Renault (continental) R10 engine. I put a new distributor with pertronix setup on. She's from 1980 but the 72 inch deck and rear wheel steer make for quick cutting. These are very durable machines. They still sold what was basically the same design through 2010 (but with creature comforts and a sweet 28 hp Kubota diesel) before they downsized the chassis a bit.

Also picked up a winter beater and/or future project. Its an 04.5 LLY that runs really well but has body issues and the price was too good to pass up. I've since obtained a rust free cab for it from a local guy who is also a forum member I've been changing fluids and trying to figure out what to do with it. Probably drive for a winter as is and then do the cab swap and find a new bed. It runs and drives very well and only has 220k on it, not much for a diesel. It was on old company truck and has a nice ag hitch on it, new batteries and very nice aftermarket stereo system.
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71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck)
71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project)
72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker)
01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue

^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either
'86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649
'71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642
'72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6
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Old 05-21-2019, 12:12 AM   #206
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Re: K30 Downgrade to Cummins Project

Despite the distractions, I've still managed to make some progress on the K30. Things are really coming together. I'm basically having to make my own core support since the intercooler has to be so low and close to the radiator. More on that later.

I need to custom make the drain tube from turbo oil outlet to clear the engine mount. Need to figure out if its better/easier to run the oil drain line above or below the engine mount.
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71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck)
71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project)
72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker)
01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue

^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either
'86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649
'71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642
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Old 05-21-2019, 12:11 PM   #207
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Re: K30 Downgrade to Cummins Project

If I remember correctly there is an additional hole towards the rear you can put your drain to. Factory uses the front and plugs the rear. But regardless I would put my hard angle lower so you have zero chance of backing up the oil coming out of the turbo
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Old 05-23-2019, 06:21 PM   #208
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Re: K30 Downgrade to Cummins Project

Cool, i will look for that hole. That would make things a bit easier.
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86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW
71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck)
71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project)
72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker)
01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue

^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either
'86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649
'71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:18 PM   #209
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Re: K30 Downgrade to Cummins Project

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If I remember correctly there is an additional hole towards the rear you can put your drain to. Factory uses the front and plugs the rear. But regardless I would put my hard angle lower so you have zero chance of backing up the oil coming out of the turbo
That is only on storm blocks and his block is not a storm block. Jud, I'd go over the mount not under. The oil may not return to the pan properly. You can get SS flexible lines that will help this situation.

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Old 06-12-2019, 07:45 PM   #210
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That is only on storm blocks and his block is not a storm block. Jud, I'd go over the mount not under. The oil may not return to the pan properly. You can get SS flexible lines that will help this situation.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dodg...hrome&ie=UTF-8
Never knew that about the blocks. Now I have something to google tonight.
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Old 06-13-2019, 12:43 AM   #211
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You can get SS flexible lines that will help this situation.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dodg...hrome&ie=UTF-8
I think thats what I bought a few days ago. Here is a pic. I should be able to rebend this, add a hose section and use the original elbow thats pressed into the block.
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71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck)
71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project)
72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker)
01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue

^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either
'86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649
'71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642
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Old 06-29-2019, 09:29 PM   #212
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Re: K30 Downgrade to Cummins Project

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Seems like everytime I hire a "professional" I have issues of some sort. For auto work, the only thing I hire others to do are alignments and rebuild transmissions. 2 out of 3 of the transmissions have had issues. These are longstanding local shops. Guess I have to also do this myself in the future. Issues with the shop doing the work on my G360 are as follows:

1) The price ended up being 40% higher than the quoted. Yes, it needed more than average, but maybe call your customer and get authorization that its ok to put more into it?? I did tell them to purchase the higher quality parts and not skimp back 6 weeks ago when I was given updated estimate but still how hard is to call? I called him out on this and he did itemize and the cost seemed justified so this is mainly a frustration of taking forever, and not communicating.

2) Only at pickup did they mention the cracked bellhousing. Thanks for the headsup! Could have spent the last few weeks looking for one...

3) When I got home I noticed the output shaft still has old grease/crud in the splines. Also the topcover and bellhousing still have caked on grease on the outside- WTF, shouldn't everything have been cleaned?

Guess I better open it up and verify its good on the inside....

Does everyone have results like this with shops?
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67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore )
86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW
71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck)
71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project)
72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker)
01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue

^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either
'86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649
'71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642
'72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6

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Old 06-29-2019, 09:41 PM   #213
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Battled the core support quite a bit, there's not much left of it after fitting all the items up front. Ended up having to reconstruct the bottom and create a new frame for it. Would have been way easier to use the stock small big block Chevy radiator. The dodge one is so tall and the stack so thick and far forward to run the mechanical fan. The condenser is about 3/8" behind the front plastic grille.

Still need to find some heater tubes that bolt on manifold.

Finished welding the custom engine accessory brackets and painted them but then the damn clear coat lifted the base layer. I even tested it and it didn't lift in the test! So now I have to sand them down
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67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore )
86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW
71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck)
71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project)
72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker)
01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue

^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either
'86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649
'71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642
'72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6
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Old 06-30-2019, 09:01 PM   #214
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I feel the same way you do about hiring so called "professionals." I try to do as much as I can myself because of the waste of time and money but mostly the frustration and the fact that you end up redoing it yourself anyway.

I'm in the process of redoing my inter-cooler, radiator, and condenser on my 1988. I took out the modified Chevy 4 core radiator and inter-cooler and went with the factory Dodge: radiator, inter-cooler and condenser. Please attach some pics to show us your core support when you get a chance. Also, my 360 went belly up almost 3 years ago and so I parked it and am in the process of switching to a NV4500 instead of trying to rebuild the 360.

Keep us posted.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:23 PM   #215
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Good looking build. What are your plans for the fuel shut-off solenoid? How do you plan to wire that?
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