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Old 12-16-2012, 07:13 PM   #1
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Mustang II advice

Hello everyone I am new to this site and am enjoying it very much. I appreciate the positive attitude. I have just purchased a 1953 Chevy truck and I am wondering what is the most economical Mustang II front end out there. I will be running a 350/350 combo. I am not sure if there is a place on here to do an intro. So here ya go!

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Old 12-16-2012, 08:01 PM   #2
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If going Mustang II for sure my advice is to buy a crossmember built for the truck. Don't buy the weld your own kits cause it will save you a lot of grief in the long run. There are no inexspensive kits, just the crossmembers alone run from three to five hundred. If you want tubular A Arms had to the price another $500 and stay away from the ones built in china such as Helix. Try and stay with good established products like TCI, Heidts, Fatman or even Speedway. If you want real good stuff Scotts, No Limit are vendors on this site and give discounts, just remember you get what you pay for so buy cheap get cheap.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:02 PM   #3
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welcome to the group
As for the cheapest IDK, so times cheaps isn't the best value. I went with speedways, and it is one of the cheapest and I havent had any problems. I would look into scotts frontends, he has a very nice product and is a big supporter of this forum and if you had any problem with install he would be here, just a click away.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:03 PM   #4
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:14 PM   #5
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welcome.i am currently working on my second scotts kit.if your looking for a no hassle install with quality parts then take a look at there kits.justin is very easy to work with and great forum discounts.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:24 PM   #6
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I went with a TCI. After seeing my buddies Scott's kit, I will look at theirs pretty hard the next go round.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:27 PM   #7
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Thanks everyone for your input it is much appreciated! I will post pics once I get started. This is going to be a slow build, as money allows. Once again thanks.

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Old 12-16-2012, 11:40 PM   #8
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Just installed a Heidts in my 55. It went together pretty easy. They helped me a couple times. I have not driven it yet to give you a full report.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:31 AM   #9
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I just put a Speedway Mustang II Under a 48, first time using them, but it was pretty straight forward, tons of options as far as bolt patterns, brakes, suspension. It comes with great instructions, and anything I had a question about I emailed thier tech dept and got my answer right away. They have a ton of things for these trucks and I think the crossmember itself is 300.00 if Im not mistaken. In my opinion, out of the s10 frame swap, camaro clip....the Mustang II would run cheaper in the long run because 1, its new stuff, no replacing ball joints, tie rods, and stuff like that for a while. 2, Unlike the s10 and clip, you can do it by yourself, with little to no help, where with the frame and clip, youve got some pretty heavy duty lifting. And 3 they look tons cleaner.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:42 AM   #10
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Fountain - Here is a thought: You live in Chicago, so SpeedwayMotors.com, in Lincoln,NE would be easy shipping.
I use Speedway and always request SpeeDeeDelivery.com and they treat your stuff right and may save money over conventional truck freight rates and I think they go to your area.
Worth asking when you shop.

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Old 12-17-2012, 11:52 AM   #11
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Yeah speedway isby far the best customer service Ive dealt with yet.....worst was Airbagit.com they were so missleading and they couldnt even pull my avvount up even though I had my confirmation number so I had to sit there and let this guy tell me I ordered the wrong solenoids for my door kit, when the reciept had everything right....
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:03 PM   #12
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Is there a link to Scotts front end?
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:14 PM   #13
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:29 PM   #14
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I have a 58... for those with experience, I was hoping you might help with a couple answers.

1. Do you need to take the front end off (fenders, core support, hood, engine etc) to install the IFS. I was hoping you can just weld it in from underneath.

2. My 350 is mounted to the original crossmember so can you leave that in?
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:43 PM   #15
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I will never say anything CAN'T be done, but you will be way ahead to atleast pull the motor, and i would think the front clip. On mine the OEM crossmember was deleted.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:07 PM   #16
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welcome.i am currently working on my second scotts kit.if your looking for a no hassle install with quality parts then take a look at there kits.justin is very easy to work with and great forum discounts.

My scotts front end is killer!!! Very clean and very nice.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:08 PM   #17
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Scott's kits are great but you are talking right at 3K for the complete kit.

I bit off on a Helix kit and I can't recommend one to anyone after looking at those. Welder Joe on Ebay is their backdoor outlet so don't bight off on one of theirs. The design isn't bad but several of the welds are ground through on the crossmeber to the point that the whole thing needs to be rewelded before it can be used. It was CHEAP though as I have less than 400 in cross member and A arms. My son and I will also have several hours of extra welding in it to make it work too. I

I've been looking at http://supremehotrods.com/ They have a crossmember for 300 that they say is made in the USA and they say they have them for individual models of vehicles but I'd contact them directly and ask before doing any ordering. I contacted them on something else and they got right back to me on it. Still if the price is a bunch less than other offerings there has to be a reason that it is less. It may only be that they didn't grind down the welds but one has to figure out why on these things.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:16 PM   #18
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Maybe Justin would like to throw in a hat or T-shirt for his old customers, and new ones (customers) !!!!!
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Welcome Fountain from So Arizona.
Being a contractor you know how important a good foundation is and we liked the X member from Scotts Hot Rod
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Scott's kits are great but you are talking right at 3K for the complete kit.

I bit off on a Helix kit and I can't recommend one to anyone after looking at those. Welder Joe on Ebay is their backdoor outlet so don't bight off on one of theirs. The design isn't bad but several of the welds are ground through on the crossmeber to the point that the whole thing needs to be rewelded before it can be used. It was CHEAP though as I have less than 400 in cross member and A arms. My son and I will also have several hours of extra welding in it to make it work too. I

I've been looking at http://supremehotrods.com/ They have a crossmember for 300 that they say is made in the USA and they say they have them for individual models of vehicles but I'd contact them directly and ask before doing any ordering. I contacted them on something else and they got right back to me on it. Still if the price is a bunch less than other offerings there has to be a reason that it is less. It may only be that they didn't grind down the welds but one has to figure out why on these things.
So you know our Complete ifs hub to hub start at $2395.00 and this is retail.We have some GREAT forum deals for ALL members on this site.


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So you know our Complete ifs hub to hub start at $2395.00 and this is retail.We have some GREAT forum deals for ALL members on this site.


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That may be fairly inexpensive if you make 100,000 and up a year but on my wages there is no way I could justify spending that much money on the front end of my pickup. That is one of the things you seem to forget when you constantly push your products, it takes a hell of a lot better than average income to be able to buy them and some of us are on a pretty tight budget.

If I had do overs on mine I'd drive to Seattle or Portland and buy a complete Jag XJ6 front suspension and be done with it. They just aren't available in wrecking yards here locally nor are there many dead Jag sedans available locally.
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That may be fairly inexpensive if you make 100,000 and up a year but on my wages there is no way I could justify spending that much money on the front end of my pickup. That is one of the things you seem to forget when you constantly push your products, it takes a hell of a lot better than average income to be able to buy them and some of us are on a pretty tight budget.

If I had do overs on mine I'd drive to Seattle or Portland and buy a complete Jag XJ6 front suspension and be done with it. They just aren't available in wrecking yards here locally nor are there many dead Jag sedans available locally.
Constantly push his products? Wow, sort of a condescending pissed off tone. Not sure where that came from. Let's not piss all over the OP's thread. If you have an issue with a vendor selling his product here, maybe you oughta contact a mod.

The OP asked for advice on product, and that's what he was given. Pretty sure he didn't ask what junkyard to go get a M2 front end from.
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