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Old 12-22-2018, 11:31 AM   #1
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Just curious.How long will clear coat stay on weathered paint?

I always here that clear coat will come off.I have seen alot of clear over patina and I haven't seen one peel yet.I'm not arguing that it's not going to happen because I've seen tons of New paint jobs with clear coming off of them.
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Old 12-23-2018, 12:01 PM   #2
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Re: Just curious.How long will clear coat stay on weathered paint?

Why anyone bothers to clear an old truck is beyond me... I think it looks ridiculous and serves no purpose as far as I am concerned (I know you didn't ask). The claim to "save the patina" holds no water either as it's taken 60 years to get that way, so what is there to save?

I haven't seen clear come off new paint jobs for a long time because the industry has learned their mistakes. The old paint will accept a clear coat if it's prepared properly but you might consider something else.

Take your finger with a bit of spit on it and rub it one spot and you'll see the good shiny paint and will have the oxidised paint on your finger. Take the old oxidized paint off and you will be surprised how much shine you can get. Safest method is to do it by hand with a fairly coarse compound and a rag. Follow up with a wax, and you'll have shiny patina.
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Old 12-23-2018, 12:44 PM   #3
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Re: Just curious.How long will clear coat stay on weathered paint?

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Why anyone bothers to clear an old truck is beyond me... I think it looks ridiculous and serves no purpose as far as I am concerned (I know you didn't ask). The claim to "save the patina" holds no water either as it's taken 60 years to get that way, so what is there to save?

I haven't seen clear come off new paint jobs for a long time because the industry has learned their mistakes. The old paint will accept a clear coat if it's prepared properly but you might consider something else.

Take your finger with a bit of spit on it and rub it one spot and you'll see the good shiny paint and will have the oxidised paint on your finger. Take the old oxidized paint off and you will be surprised how much shine you can get. Safest method is to do it by hand with a fairly coarse compound and a rag. Follow up with a wax, and you'll have shiny patina.

What he said! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I just don't get it. If you dig the "patina" look, which I can totally dig and respect, then leave it! It took years to make it, that didn't happen over night and it's going to go down the tubes to nothing in a month. It took years and it will take decades more before the fender falls off.



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Re: Just curious.How long will clear coat stay on weathered paint?

If you get off all of the ozidation then I don't see why it wouldn't stick.

Anyone that's owned a patina car knows that the patina changes pretty quickly, and sometimes you want to preserve how it looks "now". Older single stage paint dulls out quickly unless you stay after with wax so it's a lot of upkeep. My '64 VW has the original paint and the spots that are worn through to primer have deteriorated pretty rapidly over the last few years. If I let it go a few more years then the light patina look would be a heavy patina look that I don't like as much.


I shot my '63 VW convertible with SPI Universal clear and added about 7% flattener so it didn't look too glossy. I've had a lot of people ask if it was the original paint at shows. Its holding up well after almost two years with no loss of adhesion or any change in gloss, all I have to do is wash it. It was very oxidized when I found it so I heavily scuffed it with red pads, then lightly sanded with 500 grit to knock down the orange peel.






I wetsanded/buffed a spot on the door to see if there was good paint under the oxidation. Looked good so I scuffed/sanded the whole thing.







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Old 12-29-2018, 07:58 AM   #5
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If you get off all of the ozidation then I don't see why it wouldn't stick.

Anyone that's owned a patina car knows that the patina changes pretty quickly, and sometimes you want to preserve how it looks "now". Older single stage paint dulls out quickly unless you stay after with wax so it's a lot of upkeep. My '64 VW has the original paint and the spots that are worn through to primer have deteriorated pretty rapidly over the last few years. If I let it go a few more years then the light patina look would be a heavy patina look that I don't like as much.


I shot my '63 VW convertible with SPI Universal clear and added about 7% flattener so it didn't look too glossy. I've had a lot of people ask if it was the original paint at shows. Its holding up well after almost two years with no loss of adhesion or any change in gloss, all I have to do is wash it. It was very oxidized when I found it so I heavily scuffed it with red pads, then lightly sanded with 500 grit to knock down the orange peel.






I wetsanded/buffed a spot on the door to see if there was good paint under the oxidation. Looked good so I scuffed/sanded the whole thing.







Gloss level before/after drying.





Very nice vw.Thanks for letting me know how long the clear has been on your paint.
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