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Old 11-07-2009, 09:33 PM   #1
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78 K20 modernization project

I am starting with a bare bones 71,000 mile 78 K20 Scottsdale camper special and plan on upgrading the creature comforts and the technology as well as fixing the body damage left over from the previous owner.

I already yanked the engine to do a mandatory clutch job so while I had the engine out I cleaned it up, installed a little bigger cam & lifters with matching valve springs and silicone valve stem seals, double roller timing set, all new gaskets, a Performer RPM intake, an Edelbrock 1406 carb and headers. When it went back in it got the new clutch and a rollerized pilot bushing along with the resurfaced flywheel.

Valve covers are an 85-86 vintage TPI Camaro part and come from the factory with studs and wide force spreader hold downs. They came stock a dull silver color so I painted them, the oil fill cap, breather and the air cleaner lid satin black so it all matched.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:38 PM   #2
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

Along the way during the clutch job I found the worst looking cap & rotor that I have ever seen on a running vehicle.

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Replaced those with an MSD cap & rotor kit and a spare stock coil I had on the shelf. Still need to find the new MSD plug wires I have in a box somewhere.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:42 PM   #3
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

The driver side all plastic window crank handle kept popping off the mounting stud so I decided to retrofit a set of late 60's & early 70's metal window crank handles.

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Not quite a bolt on deal but a quick hit of the die grinder fixed that.

They look like they belong on the truck.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:48 PM   #4
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

While I was doing the window crank handle job I decided I needed something better than the plain old cheap radio and single center dash speaker for tunes.

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I started with the door speaker install using some speakers I had on the shelf for another project.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:53 PM   #5
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

I installed an old post type cassette player from another car I had but it ended up having a dead digital display so I ended up cutting the dash to install a fully function modern CD player.

After that I built some cab corner speaker enclosures to house the 6x9's that matched the door speakers I robbed from another project.

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I still need to finish the edge filler pieces and seal the housings to the cab corners but it sounds great all ready so I have been putting it off for other more important projects.
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

I ended up giving the Edelbrock 1406 carb back to my brother after he changed his mind about the trade I had made for it a while back so in order to keep the truck on the road I robbed the 750 Demon carburetor off my 68 Camaro that is not back on the road yet after a complete drivetrain rebuild and upgrade.

I had to cut a section out of the heat shield to clear the Demon fuel line but I haven't taken a pic of the Demon carb on there with the modified heat shield.

The stock Q-Jet worked fine on the stock engine but the air & fuel mixture screws did not make any changes when turned so it could not go back on the truck. The best I could get out of it was 6 inches of vacuum. With the 1406 I was able to get 14 inches of vacuum out of it. Not bad for the size of the cam in there. Isky 280 degree .480" lift hydraulic.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:11 PM   #7
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

I scored a set of power window / power door lock doors at the local pull-it-yourself wrecking yard today along with a set of matching stainless sport mirrors and a better driver side door gasket to replace my pinched and dysfunctional one.

The passenger door was from an 87 Suburban and the driver side was from a 77 Truck so I have the correct two button driver side window switch. The driver door is a little rough but it is complete with all the PW / PDL parts I need to upgrade my driver door. My door needs a little attention to the leading edge but not too much. The work on it will be far less than that of cleaning up the donor driver door.

I also got a set of 5.7 liter TBI fuel injectors, a 1227747 ECM from a 5.7 TBI truck with the T-400 transmission along with the crossover wiring from both donor vehicles for the power window system and a better transfer case shifter boot.

It was too dark to take any pics of the new parts when I got home but I will add some tomorrow.
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

Future plans for the truck include a conversion from the SM465 manual transmission to a 4L80E transmission and to install the nearly completed TBI 350 I have in the shed along with with it.

The TBI 350 has been rebuilt and converted to hydraulic roller with the parts scavenged from a Vortec truck. It should wake up the TBI motor tremendously. I just have a few more pieces to purchase before I can finish assembling the engine.

My knees are shot so the heavy clutch is painful to use and when paired with the 5.13 gears the truck has it makes for some very frequent clutch usage.

The original owner swapped in 5.13 gears so towing his fifth wheel was a little easier with the mighty 170 hp 350.

I may put a T-400 into the truck to get it converted to an automatic before I do the 4L80E conversion. I have the 4L80E but I need to find a good donor vehicle with the NP205 and a T-400 to be able to make the conversion to the 4L80E. I can run another type of transfer case that is more common and do the T-400 conversion any time I have the time to tear it apart.

Once the TBI engine goes into the K20 I will transplant the current 350 into my old basket case of a 67 C-10 truck to give it some new life and begin its transformation into a 1970 era looking version of the modern sport trucks.

The C-10 will get C3 Vette disc at all four corners with PBR aluminum calipers, quick ratio steering, big sway bars and a whole host of spare parts I have from my 68 Camaro. It will also get converted from a long bed truck to a short bed clone and be converted from six lug to five lug. The rear wheel wells will get widened out to the full width of the frame clearance so the largest rear tires possible can be tucked in the wells.
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

Scored a set of front bumper guards to dress it up a little. They make a nice improvement to the looks.
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:49 PM   #10
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

Had to lose the bent up rusty painted step bumper so I snagged the 80's vintage sport bumper off my 67 C-10 and put it on.

Painted the hitch while I was in there and flipped the ball to the other side on the stinger to match the height of the truck.

Still need to find or fabricate some inner brackets and get some more carriage bolts.
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Re: 78 K20 modernization project

The original owner "repaired" the dysfunctional washer pump by installing a race car style push button momentary starter switch in the dash next to the wiper switch and connecting it to an external washer pump.

Didn't work when I got the truck so I swapped in a washer jar from an 89 new body style truck with the integral washer pump.

Simple hook up with two wires going to the original on wiper motor washer pump. Yellow wire from wiper motor goes to the pink wire on the donor truck washer pump. The other wire is the ground and they are connected together.

Turns out my dash switch works fine and the external pump the original owner installed was defective.

Works great and holds about a gallon of washer fluid.
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Nice truck. I really like the 3/4 ton 4x4's. What's that mounted on the back of the bed near the passenger tail light?
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Nicely put together build. I have read most of those when you did them but I never read here. The most recent, is something I will be doing to mine too. Looks "right" in there. Good job.
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Nice truck. I really like the 3/4 ton 4x4's. What's that mounted on the back of the bed near the passenger tail light?
Thanks, those are low profile tie down points back by the tail lights.
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Nicely put together build. I have read most of those when you did them but I never read here. The most recent, is something I will be doing to mine too. Looks "right" in there. Good job.
Thanks, it is a slow process due to the complete lack of funds and no garage to work in but it is making some progress anyway.

The next part of that install is to see if I can get the newer wiper arms with the arm mounted spray nozzles to fit under the cowl and plumb them up for better washer performance. It will let me clean up the original owners mickey mouse washer hose routing job too.

When I do the auto trans conversion I will install the newer column I have that has control stalk delay wiper controls. Two speed wipers with no delay suck.

Don't know if I need to install the wiper motor from the delay wiper donor but I have that too if needed.
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Thats a really nice looking truck. Great job on it so far.
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Thats a really nice looking truck. Great job on it so far.
Thanks. I can use all the motivation I can get to keep working on the truck.

Still a ton of stuff to do but I keep chipping away at the list.
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68_TT, you are giving me motivation to work on mine even more

I think I have your truck's year younger cousin! 79K20


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Nice progress! Your truck is looking good. The bumpers look great.
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68_TT, you are giving me motivation to work on mine even more

I think I have your truck's year younger cousin! 79K20

A bed with the gas doors is like yours is on my shopping list at the wrecking yard.

I scored a perfect driver side door this weekend so I now have both front fenders and both sport mirror power doors to go on the truck some time soon. Just need to remove the wrecking yard makings and color match them to the truck before I put them on. I don't want to paint the whole thing yet until I get the bed I want on there.
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I scored big time this weekend courtesy of a C4C victim 87 K10 truck at the local pull it yourself wrecking yard.

I snagged both in-tank fuel pump / sending unit assemblies, the switching valve, all the wiring and fuel line plumbing as well as the 27-spline NP208 transfer case and the under dash ECM carrier. Saved me a ton of cash on the fuel system alone.

While I was there I also picked up a GM Goodwrench remanufactured 4L60E out of a 93 4x4 with the Vortec V6 so it also had the GM rated 2025 rpm stall converter in it which was also new with the reman trans. It has the early four-bolt tail housing so it bolted right to the NP208 without need for an adapter plate. New these were $1400 for the trans and ~$200 for the converter so nice score for $55. Don't know how old they are but the fluid was red and the pan was clean. I will have to check the converter to see if there is a manufacture date on it. I have used this torque converter in several other projects and it works great. With a strong small block it will stall to about 2200 to 2400 rpm which will be great for the cam that is in my 350.

I also grabbed the engine wire harness out of a red-blue connector PCM 93 C1500 so it will plug right into the 16197427 PCM I have for the project.

Out the door I spent less than $200 on everything.

My EFI and overdrive trans retrofit project are now much closer to happening. Now all that is left is to fabricate the Holley pattern to TBI adapter plate for my Performer RPM intake and get to work putting it all in the truck.

Once it is all in there I will have to figure out what to do with the driveshafts if I don't find a long bed 700-R4 / NP208 driveshaft donor before then. I would like to put completely different driveshafts in the 78 with the swap so I can keep the SM465 / NP205 setup complete as a package that can go back in easily or be sold as a package to somebody else who wants to go to a manual trans from an auto.

I have a nice one-piece aluminum driveshaft out of a C1500 that may go in there in place of the steel two-piece unit in the 78 now. I will have to take some measurements to see if it will work now that I have the new trans and transfer case. I'm pretty sure it will need to be shortened. No big deal.
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Nice truck and really cool build man!
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Wow, someone from the salvage yard better call the cops up there and let them know they got robbed. Nice job on the parts!
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Wow, someone from the salvage yard better call the cops up there and let them know they got robbed. Nice job on the parts!
They have fixed prices for parts so every transmission is $55 no matter what it is and it comes with the converter.

All sending units are $9 no matter how rare they are but you have to buy the pumps separate.

The engine wire harness only cost $9 but took several hours to get out in one piece.

T-case with adapter housing was only $65 too.

An engine assembly with all the accessories is only $135.

I love that place.
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79 Malibu TPI 350 4L60 w/ Z28 steering & sway bars

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Old 03-09-2010, 12:57 PM   #25
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Fine looking truck!!! Nice to see someone doing it right. Great pics of the distributor cap by the way. I'd say she was running a little bit hot that night.


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