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Andy4639 · 04-03-2018, 08:36 PM

As the title states. I'm going to shave a auto tilt to go in my ramp truck that has a 4 speed. It will be a little of everything. Welded and body filler depending on the area. Mostly welding I hope. I'll paint it after it's all done to hide the mistakes!

I have never done one before so any suggestions are welcome. It will be a learning experience I'm sure but it will be done!

Robznob11 · 04-03-2018, 08:57 PM

I didn't go to that extent but I did shave the shifter arm off. I did not weld, I used fiber strand!

**Dieselwrencher** · 04-03-2018, 09:05 PM

Is the cup even aluminum or pot metal?

Andy4639 · 04-03-2018, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Robznob11

I didn't go to that extent but I did shave the shifter arm off. I did not weld, I used fiber strand!

Is this some kind of fiberglass?

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Dieselwrencher
Is the cup even aluminum or pot metal?

It's just plain metal as far as I know.

Robznob11 · 04-03-2018, 09:16 PM

Yes, I think i said it wrong it is Martin Senior fiber hair. You can get it at napa. It is a body filler but it has long strands of fiberglass in it. Sets up like a rock. The fiber strand gets rock hard to but it appears more like filler (you cannot see the fiberglass in it) I use the strand on my initial body work (rough work). Then I use light weight over it. The hair is better option for the column. You can use screen with hair over the top. Then use grinder to rough shap it. And regular filler over the top.

**Dieselwrencher** · 04-03-2018, 09:21 PM

I've done what Rob has done in the past too. It used to be called tiger hair in the day.

Andy4639 · 04-03-2018, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Robznob11

Yes, I think i said it wrong it is Martin Senior fiber hair. You can get it at napa. It is a body filler but it has long strands of fiberglass in it. Sets up like a rock. The fiber strand gets rock hard to but it appears more like filler (you cannot see the fiberglass in it) I use the strand on my initial body work (rough work). Then I use light weight over it. The hair is better option for the column. You can use screen with hair over the top. Then use grinder to rough shap it. And regular filler over the top.

Cool. I pick some up and work with it. Thanks. I was going to have my neighbor weld most of it but this may be much easier and I can do it myself.

67chevemall · 04-04-2018, 12:57 PM

Going to turn my auto into a manual column too.
Great ideas here

demian5 · 04-04-2018, 04:09 PM

I would have probably completely disassembled it first to prevent shavings from getting into the bearings and causing potential shorts.

Andy4639 · 04-04-2018, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by demian5

I would have probably completely disassembled it first to prevent shavings from getting into the bearings and causing potential shorts.

Shorts how???

I plan to blow it out good with air after wards plus I put foam down inside it while I cut it and grind it.
This want need the safety neutral switch. I used them to drill into the shifter tube to hold it in place. Works like a champ. I'll cut the lower lever off tomorrow night.

Andy4639 · 04-07-2018, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Is the cup even aluminum or pot metal?

I found out today after welding didn't work the bowl is aluminum(first picture) and the rest is metal. So I cleaned it all up again and filled the openings with plumber's putty like I used on my steering wheels that I have re done. I will let it dry for a few days then sand it down and primmer it to paint. Going to paint it black.
I also used the safety neutral switch screw holes with long screws to secure the shift tube in place then I cut the bottom part off.

Andy4639 · 04-08-2018, 11:29 AM

Got the rough sanding done. Now waiting on warmer weather to primmer it and final sanding. Then I'll paint it.

rvrfoot · 04-08-2018, 12:54 PM

My friend used jb weld.

Andy4639 · 04-08-2018, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rvrfoot

My friend used jb weld.

I got to thinking about it. The filler want have any pressure on it and it want have any stress so I just used what I had. This stuff gets hard but it is easy to work with.

72LB · 04-08-2018, 09:23 PM

I found a shift delete collar from a dump truck a while back, plan on using it on mine when I find a manual column.

Andy4639 · 04-09-2018, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 72LB

I found a shift delete collar from a dump truck a while back, plan on using it on mine when I find a manual column.

Not sure I am following what your saying here?
When I pull the one out of the ramp it's for a 3 on the tree column shift.

72LB · 04-09-2018, 04:19 PM

Shift delete collar doesn't have the opening for the shift arm it's smooth all around.

Andy4639 · 04-09-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 72LB

Shift delete collar doesn't have the opening for the shift arm it's smooth all around.

Yes I understand I know this part.

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when I find a manual column

This is what I was talking about. How will this bowl work for a manual column?
Are you trying to say for a 4 speed?

72LB · 04-09-2018, 09:04 PM

It cleans up the column so I can use a floor shift.

Andy4639 · 04-10-2018, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 72LB

It cleans up the column so I can use a floor shift.

Ok that I got. When I do my swap your welcome to mine. It's the old 3 on the tree column but it's not tilt.

72LB · 04-10-2018, 09:23 AM

Cool, I prefer one that doesn't have tilt.

hayhauler71 · 04-10-2018, 11:09 AM

JB weld on this one

Andy4639 · 04-10-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hayhauler71

JB weld on this one

That looks good sir! Nice job.

rvrfoot · 04-10-2018, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hayhauler71

JB weld on this one

Where did you get the inter shaft and the end?

hayhauler71 · 04-11-2018, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rvrfoot

Where did you get the inter shaft and the end?

Inner shaft is the original. And the joint I bought online stainless steel I believe it is 3/4 DD to 36 spline to replace the factory joint.

04-03-2018, 08:36 PM	#1
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Shaving a Auto tilt As the title states. I'm going to shave a auto tilt to go in my ramp truck that has a 4 speed. It will be a little of everything. Welded and body filler depending on the area. Mostly welding I hope. I'll paint it after it's all done to hide the mistakes! I have never done one before so any suggestions are welcome. It will be a learning experience I'm sure but it will be done! Attached Images __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

04-03-2018, 08:57 PM	#2
Robznob11 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: brownfield texas (west texas) Posts: 1,936	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt I didn't go to that extent but I did shave the shifter arm off. I did not weld, I used fiber strand! Attached Images __________________ The Ghost 67 short wide full custom. 550 hp LSX, 4l80E, narrowed 9". Body dropped w/air ride! ........................ ___ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(⊙)___//___/__(O)_/ @disciple2.rc 💪instagram💪 LED TAILS

04-03-2018, 09:05 PM	#3
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,133	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt Is the cup even aluminum or pot metal? __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

04-03-2018, 09:16 PM	#5
Robznob11 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: brownfield texas (west texas) Posts: 1,936	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt Yes, I think i said it wrong it is Martin Senior fiber hair. You can get it at napa. It is a body filler but it has long strands of fiberglass in it. Sets up like a rock. The fiber strand gets rock hard to but it appears more like filler (you cannot see the fiberglass in it) I use the strand on my initial body work (rough work). Then I use light weight over it. The hair is better option for the column. You can use screen with hair over the top. Then use grinder to rough shap it. And regular filler over the top. __________________ The Ghost 67 short wide full custom. 550 hp LSX, 4l80E, narrowed 9". Body dropped w/air ride! ........................ ___ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(⊙)___//___/__(O)_/ @disciple2.rc 💪instagram💪 LED TAILS

04-03-2018, 09:21 PM	#6
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,133	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt I've done what Rob has done in the past too. It used to be called tiger hair in the day. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

04-04-2018, 12:57 PM	#8
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt Going to turn my auto into a manual column too. Great ideas here __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

04-04-2018, 04:09 PM	#9
demian5 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 2,177	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt I would have probably completely disassembled it first to prevent shavings from getting into the bearings and causing potential shorts. __________________ "Work hard, use your vacation days." 1970 C15 GMC Long Bed 1986 C20 Scottsdale 1983 K2500 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2 Instagram: C10sofOC

04-08-2018, 11:29 AM	#12
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt Got the rough sanding done. Now waiting on warmer weather to primmer it and final sanding. Then I'll paint it. Attached Images __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

04-08-2018, 12:54 PM	#13
rvrfoot Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: san bernardino ca Posts: 1,611	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt My friend used jb weld.

04-08-2018, 09:23 PM	#15
72LB Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Inman/Boiling Springs, SC Posts: 420	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt I found a shift delete collar from a dump truck a while back, plan on using it on mine when I find a manual column.

04-09-2018, 04:19 PM	#17
72LB Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Inman/Boiling Springs, SC Posts: 420	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt Shift delete collar doesn't have the opening for the shift arm it's smooth all around.

04-09-2018, 09:04 PM	#19
72LB Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Inman/Boiling Springs, SC Posts: 420	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt It cleans up the column so I can use a floor shift.

04-10-2018, 09:23 AM	#21
72LB Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Inman/Boiling Springs, SC Posts: 420	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt Cool, I prefer one that doesn't have tilt.

04-10-2018, 11:09 AM	#22
hayhauler71 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: St. Paul MN. Posts: 1,996	Re: Shaving a Auto tilt JB weld on this one Attached Images __________________ Fuzzy



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