Rear Glass One-Piece Rubber - Need Help

[gokellurself]

Hey Guys

So I'm getting ready to install the back window on my cab and I can't find any good articles on it. My truck came with the rear window trim that bolts in from the inside of the cab - not the two piece bead locking type window that I am able to find so many articles on...

Attached are some photos of what I have going on. Essentially the one piece rubber is supposed to go around the glass and then the whole thing gets sandwiched between the bezel and the window opening on the cab. One of my main concerns is that it looks like I would have to actually drill holes through the rubber in order to have the bolts pass through it into the bezel. Seems dangerous so close to the glass...

Anyways, If anybody has any advice for me or can hit me with a good link on this it would be very much appreciated. Thanks guys

[CHIZZLER]

You are right on drilling the holes in the gasket. I did the same thing. Fit the rubber on the window and the trim ring. Mark the holes with a sharp punch and push it through to the threads. Drill out the holes slightly larger. Set the glass in place and do your best to locate the clutch head screws in the trim ring. Good luck.

[dennislbrooks]

I am near ready to tackle the same adventure on a 41 cab. Hope it turns out well for you and me.

[gokellurself]

Thanks for the responses fellas

As it turns out the original shop manual procedure stated "Man Up."

I shall report back

[dennislbrooks]

ok, got my 41 rear window installed. After marking the holes from the old rubber, drilling and then using a carbide point on an air drill to make the holes more noticeable, I test screwed the glass and gasket to the outside frame. Reasonably close..... I tried the new clutch head screws that came with the rubber but were too short to start thru the cab metal so I found all but 1 of the oem screws, cleaned them up. They are self centering and about 1/8" longer and worked easier. 3 holes I did have to redrill while mounted in the truck but all went well. My old outside pot metal frame could have been a little straighter but I did not want to mess with the pot metal too much.

[dennislbrooks]

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[paintman]

Not to high jack this thread but.......Ironically I am about to tackle the same project. However, I was wondering if there is anyway to tell if my truck came with a trim ring around the inside, stock from the factory. When I bought my truck it just had the 2 piece glass and the gasket (no trim ring), but as butchered up as my truck was when I got it, it wouldn't suprise me if the guy just gave up on installing the trim ring. Here's a pic of my window opening. I have these little cut outs in about 6 spots on my opening.
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[dennislbrooks]

As far as I know --only 40 and 41 --- 42 thru early 47 were rubber gasket only like a 67. I would say yours is not a 40 or 41 from what I can see. I did a 42 and it did not have the holes or the trim ring. I had to take my 42 to a window guy familiar with prying that rear window/rubber and pulling the lock bead in. I may have a pic of the 42 opening --will look.

I do not have a clear pic of the 42 before rear window install. These trucks have had body parts swapped and used but another sign of a 41 is that the door lock on the passenger side is in the door handle. 42 -early 47 have lock seperate and below the door handle on the outside. If you have a 3/4 - 1" lip on the rear windows without 14 -- about 1/4 holes - it probably is not a 40/41 cab.

[paintman]

Originally Posted by dennislbrooks

As far as I know --only 40 and 41 --- 42 thru early 47 were rubber gasket only like a 67. I would say yours is not a 40 or 41 from what I can see. I did a 42 and it did not have the holes or the trim ring. I had to take my 42 to a window guy familiar with prying that rear window/rubber and pulling the lock bead in. I may have a pic of the 42 opening --will look.

I do not have a clear pic of the 42 before rear window install. These trucks have had body parts swapped and used but another sign of a 41 is that the door lock on the passenger side is in the door handle. 42 -early 47 have lock seperate and below the door handle on the outside. If you have a 3/4 - 1" lip on the rear windows without 14 -- about 1/4 holes - it probably is not a 40/41 cab.

I don't have any holes around the perimeter of my window opening. Also my lock on the passenger side is below the handle, in the door skin, not in the handle itself. Iguess it just uses the gasket around the glass to hold it in place.

[CSHADES]

1939, 1940 and 1941 used the trim ring on the outside. 1942- early 1947 used the pinch weld gasket to eliminate the trim ring. the door locks were in the handle 1939-40 and in the door 1941-up. there are a lot of differences in cabs and doors 1939-46 even though they all look very close.

[dennislbrooks]

Were there any diffences in the windshield? What years are the same?

[CSHADES]

The windshield and frame is the same from 1939-46 as far as I know. The hinges are also the same. The windshield crankout regulator is different in 1939 but the same from 1940-46 and first design 1947. I have a lot of these trucks so I am familiar with a lot of the differences but I am sure I don't know all of them.

[gokellurself]

Hey fellas, just wanted to get my update in here as well. My saga continued with me beginning to realize perhaps there is a difference in 41 and 46 glass... I got my glass from Auto Glassics out of Oregon, who when I ordered verified that my side windows had the trim all the way around it but never mentioned anything about the rear glass.

Sure enough there is a slight difference, and they were kind enough to send me the proper rear glass at an excellent price. All this really makes me wonder what year my truck actually is! On the original little vin plate you can make out a "46" but with it being out of DMV records DMV pretty much let me register it however I wanted! So right now it's a 46, but by going off this rear glass perhaps it's a 41? Idk, doesn't matter much to me

Anyways, the tape seemed to help get the process started but once the holes were drilled it really didn't help in the actual install. I joined the two ends at the top, between two screws and threw a little gorilla glue in there it try to make it seal. I have this new fancy seal and all these rust through areas for water to still get in certainly not a winter driver


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[paintman]

Ohhhhhh, sure go ahead and do all the easy stuff yourself. Leave all the B.S. stuff for me to figure out so everybody else has an easy time of it.