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Old 01-10-2015, 08:52 PM   #1
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Re: Restoring Rusty

I guess I need to start my own thread but since you called me out here's proof.

I started with this:


And ended the day with this:


Core support and inner fender well we're eaten up with Mr. Rust.
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Old 01-11-2015, 11:16 AM   #2
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I guess I need to start my own thread but since you called me out here's proof. I started with this: [...]And ended the day with this: ...
OUTSTANDING, man that is a lot of work!
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Old 01-11-2015, 12:54 PM   #3
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Trying to keep pace with you.
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Old 01-13-2015, 11:58 PM   #4
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Clean Transmission 1

so it took a couple days but got the transmission cleaned up to where I can tell it's not a bolder but actually a gear box
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Old 01-13-2015, 11:59 PM   #5
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Clean Gear Box

and the other side

now I can actually see the part numbers (which reminds me I should go write them down)
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:55 AM   #6
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Wow, that looks great. You're doing a fantastic job.
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Old 01-14-2015, 02:04 AM   #7
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Wow, that looks great. You're doing a fantastic job.
Thank you, projects like this make me feel like an Automotive Archaeologist!
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Old 01-14-2015, 02:00 AM   #8
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Just to make sure we're all on the same page what did you use to get results like that?
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Old 01-14-2015, 02:07 AM   #9
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Just to make sure we're all on the same page what did you use to get results like that?
Hammer and a chisel of course
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Just to make sure we're all on the same page what did you use to get results like that?
OK, seriously I used Mineral Spirits from Home Depot and paper towels mostly. But this was the toughest thing I ever cleaned so I used the different flat screw drivers sort of like chisels but not Gorilla like and the putty knife. Cheap single use wire brushes from Harbor Freight $2.00 bucks for the set. Cleaning a part like this on the truck or inside the truck is tough. You can't reach things easily I did slice up my hands a bit.

Here is the key, work on it for an hour or two then walk away. I did this over a three day period, I am not bragging the results are OK, but it is tedious work. So Saturday I think I started and did 4 hours, then on Sunday 2 hours before the football games then maybe another 2 at night, and then today after work maybe a good 4 hours on it.
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Old 01-14-2015, 02:26 AM   #11
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Alrighty then...
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Old 01-14-2015, 02:29 AM   #12
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Neutral/ Reverse Wiring Harness

so I remembered why I cleaned the transmission in the first place, I needed to unplug the TCS system wiring harness and reroute the neutral / backup lights wiring harness

the light green / dark green neutral/reverse wiring harness runs under the transmission tunnel up the fire wall in the engine bay and enters the cab under the brake booster... why?

I ran mine out the transmission cover and directly into the cab then made a left to where it plugs in under the dash, to do so I had to take off the plug to be able to feed it through the small hole in the firewall

here I show you how to carefully remove the flat blade wire connector from the plug without damaging it or having to cut the wire and re crimp, just press on one side of the blade and it comes right out, good to know
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Old 01-14-2015, 07:53 PM   #13
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tranny came out real nice
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Old 01-16-2015, 12:06 PM   #14
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Yep, Pick N Pull does core charges. Maybe they want to sell the scrap metal after, who knows.
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Yep, Pick N Pull does core charges. Maybe they want to sell the scrap metal after, who knows.
Correct, my friend and I guestimated their business model, and basically they buy the cars for scrap metal and anything they part out to us is gravy, ie icing on the cake, ie their profit margin, that's how they keep the prices down, especially if they sell us the interior, rubber, plastic parts, seats, tires, glass
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:17 PM   #16
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You got to admit they are pretty sharp ,they sell used anti freeze for cheap instead of paying a company to take it ,they sell the used oil to recycling companys .Im glad they are there as it does keep prices pretty affordable .I just wish they would open one near me ,Heck I would lease them the land for certain discounts as I have 40 mostly unused acres in pasture .
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Old 01-17-2015, 08:46 PM   #17
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It is a perfect crime... er... business model...
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The tranny looks good.
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The tranny looks good.
thanks rusty
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Re: Restoring Rusty - HEI Distributor

replaced the stock points distributor with an HEI model made by ProForm

for now I just connected it using the stock pink resistance wire until I pull a 12 gauge OEM one from a junk yard to replace it with (seems to be running just fine even if it is only pulling 9 volts instead of 12)

the pink wire was spliced into a yellow wire running down to the starter which I just cut off (and will delete at a later time)

set the initial timing (no vacuum advance to 6* at 900 RPM) then I connected the vacuum and it started idling at 1,400 RPM so I backed the idle speed down to about 800 (not sure what I am doing exactly)
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Re: Restoring Rusty - HEI Distributor

I bet you will like it better if you bump the timing up more like around 10-12*.
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I bet you will like it better if you bump the timing up more like around 10-12*.
Thank you I will try that, at what RPM?
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using the stock pink resistance wire until I pull a 12 gauge OEM one from a junk yard to replace it with (seems to be running just fine even if it is only pulling 9 volts instead of 12)
I once worked on a 64 GTO where the resistance wire was coiled up under the dash. I can't remember if it then went through the firewall into the engine compartment, or if it connected to a regular wire. Are you sure the pink wire is, in fact, resistance wire?

I have no idea why GM just didn't stick with an under-hood ballast resistor. Guess they must have had a reason. On the GTO, the resistance wire's heat had begun to melt insulation on other wires in the underdash bundle.

On another note, what are your impressions of the Proform distributor?
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Are you sure the pink wire is, in fact, resistance wire?
Yes absolutely, 100% sure it says so on the wire itself, it's written with white letters on the pink wire every foot or so. My buddy and I verified it with out own four eyes, LOL, we also were looking for a cylindrical resistor mounted somewhere.
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On another note, what are your impressions of the Proform distributor?
Hi Mike

Very good question and I am holding off on any disclosure as it is clearly too early to judge. I was skierd by some posters saying don't buy these cheap distributors made over sees, buy a used GM one from the junk yard then replace every single part on it with name brand parts, that didn't make much sense to me.

I picked Proform for two reasons:

1. I am stupid and don't like the "look at me" red MSD distributor everyone and their mother is running, I also think they are grossly over priced

2. I happen to call Proform and speak with their Technical Support staff, and
A. They have a Technical Support team (unlike LMC Truck catalog folks)
B. They were very kind, professional, and helpful, I hung up the phone and ordered the part.

So more on the performance of the dizzy later.
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