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Old 11-01-2010, 03:27 PM   #176
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Back from SEMA on sunday, we loaded in the truck. Saw the new demo truck for AccuAir, - all I can say is WOW
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:35 PM   #177
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.... Crap, i've been running all year on about 5/8 throttle....
So essentially you have been kicking butt on a detuned motor. I'm thinking your competitors probably don't want to know that.

Time to upgrade the brakes again...
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:54 PM   #178
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Well, as much as I'm ashamed to admit the mistake, I do see the humor in it.
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Old 11-07-2010, 02:40 AM   #179
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Back from SEMA and the Optima Invitational. We had a blast. The truck ran great. Rob Phillips ran his 69 C-10 with all new Hotchkis gear, and it handles great. The quality of cars was amazing, and the raw horsepower on hand was off the hook. An 1800 hp gen-3 camaro from Europe, a 973hp twin turbo vette, an 1150 hp shelby mustang. If you didn't cross the 650 hp line, your out of the running. Wewatched in dis-belief as the owner thashed on his $1million 59 Mercedes 190, a truelly gorgeous car. I'll get picts, stats and video up soon.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:25 PM   #180
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.... Rob Phillips ran his 69 C-10 with all new Hotchkis gear, and it handles great.
I saw where he went to the black 19's rather than the 20's. The truck looked better with the silver wheels, but I guess the black look is the rage.

So how did you do over all?
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:33 PM   #181
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I saw where he went to the black 19's rather than the 20's. The truck looked better with the silver wheels, but I guess the black look is the rage.

So how did you do over all?
he could of done that just for tire availability as he was running his truck..
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Old 11-07-2010, 02:20 PM   #182
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The wheel choice could have been for style, or tires, Optima specs 200 tw, so the sticky Kumho's are out. We didn't see the final #s, but we finished 20th in the autocross, and 27th on the roadcoarse. Don't know about the speedstop challenge, or the performance/design judging. Friday nights "road rally" was a lot of fun, we made it to parhump with only 8 minutes to spare. - Hwy 160 to Parhump is pretty smooth, and allowed us to make up some time with extended triple digit speeds. Thanks to radar detection! All in all a great event.

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Old 11-08-2010, 11:18 PM   #183
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"Well, I once built an IRS from scratch, and can say that I don't recomend it. That route will cost you plenty in time, money and heartache. But, an IRS may be more reasonable to do than you think. We do a bunch of them here using the Crown Vic - TownCar IRS unit. OK, don't gasp too hard. I know it's a Ford unit, but so is a 9", don't hate on it too much. The Crown Vic IRS unbolts from the doner car in a cradle with four big bolts and drops out. Salvage yard price is around $400 in So Cal. These have an 8.8" gear set with ltd. slip, disk brakes, and are easily converted to air ride. Swapping one in is pretty easy, you just trim the stock cradle to fit into your rails, set the pinion angle, and true up the CL then weld in the cradle. From there it's a bolt in. Check one out on your next bone-yard excursion."



Is there a certain year or model of Crown Vic/Town car with the IRS? I looked at one today and it looked like it had a solid axle with a triangulated 4 link. Or is that considered IRS? A friend said he thought it is the Mark VIII that has IRS.
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:26 AM   #184
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are the crown vics just as strong as the cobra units?
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:53 AM   #185
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Back from SEMA and the Optima Invitational. We had a blast. The truck ran great. Rob Phillips ran his 69 C-10 with all new Hotchkis gear, and it handles great. The quality of cars was amazing, and the raw horsepower on hand was off the hook. An 1800 hp gen-3 camaro from Europe, a 973hp twin turbo vette, an 1150 hp shelby mustang. If you didn't cross the 650 hp line, your out of the running. Wewatched in dis-belief as the owner thashed on his $1million 59 Mercedes 190, a truelly gorgeous car. I'll get picts, stats and video up soon.
Was that the White 190 that was in the BASF booth with AMG drivetrain?.....what a totally fricken cool car.
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:58 AM   #186
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YES, I guess it's a 61. Amazing car, and the owner flogged the snot out of it. Can't stop thinking about that car. It was built by Randy Clark, Hot Rods and Custom Stuff, in Escondido, Ca. This is the new benchmark for all classic car builders.
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:45 AM   #187
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YES, I guess it's a 61. Amazing car, and the owner flogged the snot out of it. Can't stop thinking about that car. It was built by Randy Clark, Hot Rods and Custom Stuff, in Escondido, Ca. This is the new benchmark for all classic car builders.
You guys have been holding out! No one said that they stuff an AMG biturbo V12 in this thing! You're right about the benchmark being set. Check it out for yourselves...

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I saw several pics of the car in event coverage, but had no idea. I thought it looked good lowered, but had no indication it was a beast in sheeps clothing.
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It's very cool. I'm diggin' the lg diameter OE look for the rolling stock.
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It's very cool. I'm diggin' the lg diameter OE look for the rolling stock.
I agree. That just completes the look and theme.
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Old 11-10-2010, 04:48 PM   #191
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Well we're getting back to normal. For the IRS questions, '98 - 08 Crown Vics, Mk IV, had IRS, but not in all cars. some had solid axle /multi link. The center carrier is the same 8.8 as the cobra, but the lower arms are wider, so I prefer the Crown Vic. On the mercedes, the center cap of the wheel is a spinner, and it is wieghted on the bottom, so when the car drives past, the emblem stays still. Too cool. pleasonton Good-Guys this weekend is the last auto-x of the season for us. Looks like hotchkis is sending out the whole stable of trucks to try and beat us. Should be a fun weekend. Rob Phillips had the new Hotchkis TVS kit on his truck at the Optima Challenge, and it was working great, Horsepower played a big part in the track layout, and this favored his c-10. He beat me at the autocross by .02 sec, and a full 2 sec faster on the road coarse. So, if you plan to go to a big coarse don't forget the horsepower.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:47 PM   #193
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Good morning boys and girls. We just got home from the Pleasonton Goodguys, and another win in the autocross. Strong competition with the top 4 trucks. Our 55 was victorious with a 32.208 fast lap. Rob Phillips 69 C-10 ran out a 32.886 for 2nd, and a great running 69 F100 (fatman equipped) took third with a 33.321. Mike Hickmans 70 C-10 was plauged with ignition problems, and ran a 33.465 for fourth. Both of the C-10's are running the new Hotchkis TVS kits, and sticky rubber, and they are great handling trucks. The truck class is going to be very tough next yr. Rumors of LS power for Phillips and Hickman, and I'm guessing that Jon will be a west coast force now that he is with Scotts. It looks like we're setting out to build a competitive C-10 to keep up with the GM crowd. I will be starting a build thread soon, and post 'most' of the info
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that benz was actually a 04 with skins on it beautiful car never the less I looked at it for ever then noticed some thing was odd it was wider than I remember beautiful benz!!!! talked to them and picked there brain for a bit
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I couldn't figure out how to embedd the vid, but I saw this and thought it'd be nice to show in this thread. Thanks for all the great advice on here rob.

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thanks, that was a fun day. Truckin mag did a big story on it. A failing master cyl kept me out of the top spot, which is pretty embarrasing for a 'brake guy' to admit. The cool thing is that we learned alot about trucks, and how to make them better.
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When I started to build my truck a few years ago, i tried to build it to handle the best that I possible could on what knowledge I could find from anyone and everyone, next year I will join the local SCCA up here. I built most of all of my own suspension for her, the front suspension, I am somewhat happy with, but I need to change it, and I have to change out my shocks....... I slapped her together to put a few thousand miles on her first and then start the changes, this Is what i strive for, G's!!!!!! but up here in winter wondderland, i can only do so much.

please keep on with this, itrigues me immensely!!!
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How awesome would a purpose built 2wd Blazer be? Solid body, shorter wheel base (if I recall right), less sheet metal, so maybe less weight...
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Don't think that concept hasn't crossed the radar here. By the way, if your in the 47-59 years, we are having a sale on rear suspensions this month, check the 47-59 forum. Today is the 1rst ever No Limit Big ten Challenge. 10 manufacturers, 10 cars, all out competition.
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Hey Rob, totally off topic, but where did you get the headlights on your Ffffffffff... Hold on, let me try again, Ffffooorr-blah. Dang, can't say it. Your silver truck that is in every magazine I see.

I kinda like the LED ring around them!

Also, thanks for the great info you are putting in this thread. It almost has me motivated to go out and work on my truck...
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