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Old 06-02-2020, 11:19 PM   #1626
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Hell yea! Beautiful truck! Wish my short 69 looked that good... or even my K20 for that matter!
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Very nearly. The color is tweaked. And though nothing on it newer than '71...It's got tilt, front disc brakes, TH350/NP205, AM/FM radio, white wheels and P03 caps. None of which were available on a '69 or at least a '69 4x4. It also has 3 point seat belts. Otherwise we tried to be pretty faithful to a factory style restoration.

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Very nice . Excellent additions.
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Took her out to move some oil around and let her stretch her legs. Snapped a few new photos while out.
One of the things that I really like about this truck is that it looks great from all angles. A lot of the short box trucks have one angle or two that really makes them look stubby or off. Must be because of what looks to be stock spring height and stock tire and wheel size. Im going to have to read your build thread on this to try and find those specs. Beautiful truck!
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Old 06-07-2020, 03:34 PM   #1629
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One of the things that I really like about this truck is that it looks great from all angles. A lot of the short box trucks have one angle or two that really makes them look stubby or off. Must be because of what looks to be stock spring height and stock tire and wheel size. Im going to have to read your build thread on this to try and find those specs. Beautiful truck!
Thanks guys. It turned out nice. I really like the stock look. But who knows, we may put an inch or two in the next one.
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Old 06-22-2020, 12:41 AM   #1630
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Beautiful truck! Wish mine had the buckets!!
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Old 06-22-2020, 01:22 AM   #1631
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Peek under the hood.
Factory AC/PS/PDB vehicle which is odd combo since it was originally a 6 banger.
New to the 4x4 Ck truck game (muscle car guy) so I welcome all comments or suggestions!
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Old 06-22-2020, 06:30 AM   #1632
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I like it and I like it a lot
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Old 06-22-2020, 09:17 AM   #1633
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Factory AC/PS/PDB vehicle which is odd combo since it was originally a 6 banger.
New to the 4x4 Ck truck game (muscle car guy) so I welcome all comments or suggestions!
I like it a lot......welcome
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Old 06-22-2020, 10:12 AM   #1634
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Welcome to the Board!! That is a great truck. Would love to see the SPID. '70s are my fav.
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Old 06-22-2020, 03:32 PM   #1636
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Always nice to see a fellow 70 shortbed 4X4. Welcome! Any plans for the truck? Sure looks good as is!
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Took her out to move some oil around and let her stretch her legs. Snapped a few new photos while out.
I echo all the nice comments already submitted on this truck, such a nice example. Hat's off to you for taking such good care of it and sharing with us!
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I echo all the nice comments already submitted on this truck, such a nice example. Hat's off to you for taking such good care of it and sharing with us!
You are very kind. The truck turned out as nice as it did because of the kindness and generosity of previous and current members of this board who were willing to teach and share and encourage and in many cases inspire. It's about as cool a place as there is on the internet and whatever good I can put back into it, I'm happy to...because it feels like I always seem to get more than my fair share out.
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Man I’ve loved that truck since you first posted it! Great looking piece of iron!
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Very nice truck , My suggestions: Drive it , Enjoy it
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Very nice truck , My suggestions: Drive it , Enjoy it
Thanks everyone! And I have been driving it quite a bit, but I am wrestling with which way to go on upgrading the drivetrain.
My wife wants to drive the red ‘70 regularly and the old Holley has to go for starters.
A big block ain’t the most efficient set up and prone to oil leaks.
I have converted my wife’s ‘41 ford pickup (350/350) to efi with a Holley sniper and it sure runs good and starts all year with no drama.
So considering a sniper efi upgrade on the big block, but long term I am also considering & researching an LS/overdrive conversion instead.
The LS Seems a little overwhelming (and expensive) with the Np205 thrown into the mix, but once completed should be trouble & leak free.
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I’m hoarding parts for my ls swap now. My plan is to keep the 465/205 in there place and mount the 6.0 wherever it needs to be to keep the stock driveshafts in place. I know that doesn’t exactly help with the od transmission in this case. For my 3100 I’ve got a turbo 400/205. I’m gonna 6.0 or even 8.1 swap that one with a 4l80E and the turbo 400 spec 205.
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I've got the 6L90 with my NP205 (kept the stock trans crossmember and location but fabricated a few mods). Happy to share any lessons learned as it's a bit harder to find LS swap info with a transfer case mixed in on the board.
I'm wiring my LS engine as I write this...prepare for a lot of work with an LS swap but I get more and more excited each day I make progress!
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I've got the 6L90 with my NP205 (kept the stock trans crossmember and location but fabricated a few mods). Happy to share any lessons learned as it's a bit harder to find LS swap info with a transfer case mixed in on the board.
I'm wiring my LS engine as I write this...prepare for a lot of work with an LS swap but I get more and more excited each day I make progress!
I’ve got a 4x4 6L90 that came with my 6.0, I’ve thought about that route but man it’s pricy getting the 205 behind it. It’ll be nice when you get it all done. I’ve got an 18 Sierra 2500 with that tranny and it’s quite nice to drive. The 6L80 in my Camaro is every bit as good drivability wise. The low first and second gears In both of them get you out of the hole pretty well.
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I’m hoarding parts for my ls swap now. My plan is to keep the 465/205 in there place and mount the 6.0 wherever it needs to be to keep the stock driveshafts in place. I know that doesn’t exactly help with the od transmission in this case. For my 3100 I’ve got a turbo 400/205. I’m gonna 6.0 or even 8.1 swap that one with a 4l80E and the turbo 400 spec 205.
That seems like a reasonable plan.
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1.crate LS or boneyard LS?
2. Turbo 400 spec NP205? Early GM NP205’s are not all the same ?
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Negatory on the early 205’s. I believe save the adaptor housings and the coupler setups, the (84 and earlier) turbo 350 and sm465 205s are the same. ie. you can take a 465 205 and swap the adaptor housing and the coupler between the tranny output and the 205 input and convert it into a 350 205. The turbo 400 205 has a larger input shaft and bearing that requires machine work on the early 350/465 205 case to work. Because a 4L80E is basically a turbo 400 with overdrive it’s not very difficult to mount a turbo 400 205 behind a 4L80E. Does that make sense? Basically the 69-84 gm TH350/SM465 205’s are all the small diameter input shaft cases. These will all be referred to as the figure 8 or race track case because of the way the tranny adaptor bolts up. Somewhere in the mid 70’s Gm introduced a 400 205 that is the same racetrack/figure 8 pattern But had the needed bigger input bearing. In 85 they switched to what is called the round 205 (again for the pattern that the tranny adaptor bolts to it) all round 205’s will interchange between SM465 and TH400 with the correct coupler and adaptor housings. The round 205’s all use a longer 32 spline input shaft and are stronger in that area than the older 205’s. If you can find an 85-91 square body K30, you’ll get this case regardless of the transmission it’s got in it. Hope that helps with the 205’s some. There are other changes to the 205 thru the years but these are some of the more major ones.
As for my 6.0 it’s out of a totaled 2009 Silverado.
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Welcome to the Board!! That is a great truck. Would love to see the SPID. '70s are my fav.
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Negatory on the early 205’s. I believe save the adaptor housings and the coupler setups, the (84 and earlier) turbo 350 and sm465 205s are the same. ie. you can take a 465 205 and swap the adaptor housing and the coupler between the tranny output and the 205 input and convert it into a 350 205. The turbo 400 205 has a larger input shaft and bearing that requires machine work on the early 350/465 205 case to work. Because a 4L80E is basically a turbo 400 with overdrive it’s not very difficult to mount a turbo 400 205 behind a 4L80E. Does that make sense? Basically the 69-84 gm TH350/SM465 205’s are all the small diameter input shaft cases. These will all be referred to as the figure 8 or race track case because of the way the tranny adaptor bolts up. Somewhere in the mid 70’s Gm introduced a 400 205 that is the same racetrack/figure 8 pattern But had the needed bigger input bearing. In 85 they switched to what is called the round 205 (again for the pattern that the tranny adaptor bolts to it) all round 205’s will interchange between SM465 and TH400 with the correct coupler and adaptor housings. The round 205’s all use a longer 32 spline input shaft and are stronger in that area than the older 205’s. If you can find an 85-91 square body K30, you’ll get this case regardless of the transmission it’s got in it. Hope that helps with the 205’s some. There are other changes to the 205 thru the years but these are some of the more major ones.
As for my 6.0 it’s out of a totaled 2009 Silverado.
Thanks so much for clarifying. I have a lot to learn!
So if I am following you correctly since I am currently running a t350 I can assume that I likely have a smaller diameter input shaft version of the np205.
Is the 700R4 the best OD auto for this NP? Or does one of the the newer electronic versions (other than the 4L80E) mate up well?
Thanks again!!
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I've got the 6L90 with my NP205 (kept the stock trans crossmember and location but fabricated a few mods). Happy to share any lessons learned as it's a bit harder to find LS swap info with a transfer case mixed in on the board.
I'm wiring my LS engine as I write this...prepare for a lot of work with an LS swap but I get more and more excited each day I make progress!
Hey Rowdy11...Had to read through all of your build thread before responding and now have a full page of new questions! Won’t ask them all now, but will definitely keep your offer in mind!
Gotta admit your experience scares me a little as I do not want to (or need to) dismantle my truck. That band saw action would be a challenge with the np205 in the truck.
I am hoping to keep the NP in place and “slide in” an OD Tranny and LS motor.
That’s sounding a little simplistic after reading your thread.
Maybe the Sniper add to the existing 402BB is more in the cards.
Sure appreciate all of the comments and offers for assistance !!!
6L90e six speed sounds awesome! Extra challenges with that set-up I am guessing?
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