More on EVs from a guy trying to sell them

[Getter-Done]

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Who filled out a Survey of how much gas is spilled.
Not Me.

How do (They) Figures like that get calculated.
I think it is Fuzzy Math.



Yet the Ozone is still having holes poked in it trying to see what is on the Moon and beyond.

[DeadheadNM]

Yep. This:

[Getter-Done]

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

Yep. This:

[Sicklajoie]

Funny how the gov't is complaining about spilled fuel when they were the ones that mandated these stupid gas cans that are as useless as a wristwatch on a pig.

[Getter-Done]

Originally Posted by Sicklajoie

Funny how the gov't is complaining about spilled fuel when they were the ones that mandated these stupid gas cans that are as useless as a wristwatch on a pig.

Thank You for mentioning that


I for One do not spill gas (That Percentage).
I am using Funnels or whatever it takes.

That was Instilled in me by Several of my Mentors.

Waste not Want Not.

[Sicklajoie]

Originally Posted by Getter-Done

Thank You for mentioning that


I for One do not spill gas (That Percentage).
I am using Funnels or whatever it takes.

That was Instilled in me by Several of my Mentors.

Waste not Want Not.

Same here, take the whole nozzle off and use a funnel.
I got one of these recently for filling up my generator and it works well.

[DeadheadNM]

Et tu Santa?

[Richard]

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

Et tu Santa?

Got a laugh out of your post.

[Boog]

Originally Posted by Getter-Done

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Who filled out a Survey of how much gas is spilled.
Not Me.

How do (They) Figures like that get calculated.
I think it is Fuzzy Math.

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Yet the Ozone is still having holes poked in it trying to see what is on the Moon and beyond.

"they math ain't mathing" as someone in Washington recently said.

[MikeB]

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

GM to lay off 1,300 workers across two Michigan plants as vehicle production ends

“GM had planned to start production on the Chevrolet Silverado EV and GMC Sierra EV next year at Orion, but GM said that it will "retime the conversion" of Orion Assembly plant to EV truck production and restart the plant in late 2025 instead.”

HERE: https://eu.freep.com/story/money/car...s/71923694007/

This is an interesting comment by a Detroit Free Press reader from the link above:

"No auto manufacturer is making money on EVs without government subsidies or manipulations. GM is all in on EVs even though they lose thousands on each one. The whole auto industry is in for a shock when they finally wake up to the EV debacle. Somehow I feel another taxpayer bailout coming."

Have to add that yesterday I spoke with a sales guy at an Infiniti dealership. My wife's SUV lease is almost up, and he is trying to lease us another one. Anyway, he said he is very concerned about this being the last year of production for their only remaining sedan (Q50), and also announcing that they plan to be all-in on EVs going forward. Again, a comment from a real person who's been selling cars to repeat customers at the same dealership for more than 10 years. So a guy who actually knows what customers want! Have to wonder if Nissan/Infiniti upper management ever even speak to their people who deal face-to-face with customers.

[Getter-Done]

Originally Posted by Boog

"they math ain't mathing" as someone in Washington recently said.

Yep Yep

[DeadheadNM]

Ford dealers saying “No thanks” apparently: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-N...Next-Year.html

Buick dealers are simply walking away: https://eu.freep.com/story/money/car...s/71978066007/

[best view]

Sad part is government owns Chevrolet and the government gets there money from us, ive been buying my gas tanks at flea markets and throwing out the new ones that don’t work got 3 last year, I am not following like a sheep

[Ironhorse]

This is a most interesting thread to read thru. I also use the older out dated but still working gas cans and a funnel as needed. Have four 2 1/2 gal, one gal and half and a one gal, all are Gott mfg. See no reason to replace older but PROVEN technology.

It is just so sad that EVs are being pushed as the "climate savior" with out the back story being told of the mining of such material and with ICE equipment, the lack of adequate national electric grid, battery replacement costs and disposal of such, etc. etc. etc. Very little is EVER mentioned on these issues and more.

If we are ALL to one day be driving an EV I have yet to see in the news that GM is currently building EV Suburbans for federal use and the replacement of all those nasty ICE Burbs used by the Washington elites.

Guess had best check if DeanheadNM aka Dale has room in his corner for another, LOL. Dale.......?

[Getter-Done]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

This is a most interesting thread to read thru. I also use the older out dated but still working gas cans and a funnel as needed. Have four 2 1/2 gal, one gal and half and a one gal, all are Gott mfg. See no reason to replace older but PROVEN technology.

It is just so sad that EVs are being pushed as the "climate savior" with out the back story being told of the mining of such material and with ICE equipment, the lack of adequate national electric grid, battery replacement costs and disposal of such, etc. etc. etc. Very little is EVER mentioned on these issues and more.

If we are ALL to one day be driving an EV I have yet to see in the news that GM is currently building EV Suburbans for federal use and the replacement of all those nasty ICE Burbs used by the Washington elites.

Guess had best check if DeanheadNM aka Dale has room in his corner for another, LOL. Dale.......?

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[57taskforce]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

This is a most interesting thread to read thru. I also use the older out dated but still working gas cans and a funnel as needed. Have four 2 1/2 gal, one gal and half and a one gal, all are Gott mfg. See no reason to replace older but PROVEN technology.

It is just so sad that EVs are being pushed as the "climate savior" with out the back story being told of the mining of such material and with ICE equipment, the lack of adequate national electric grid, battery replacement costs and disposal of such, etc. etc. etc. Very little is EVER mentioned on these issues and more.

If we are ALL to one day be driving an EV I have yet to see in the news that GM is currently building EV Suburbans for federal use and the replacement of all those nasty ICE Burbs used by the Washington elites.

Guess had best check if DeanheadNM aka Dale has room in his corner for another, LOL. Dale.......?

A finely placed cut with a pair of wire cutters or other sharp tool will quickly turn the new stupid style gas cans into the old school cans. I do it to every new can I buy…

Again. I have zero sympathy for Mary and the rest of the idiots running GM and Ford, even Stalantis for that matter, dodge stepped in it big time killing off the best selling in its class Challenger and even the charger… no body is gonna buy there EV pony car just like no one is going to buy an EV reimagined Camaro.

I’m happy to see that my beliefs are clearly inline with a lot of the general public in that EV’s aren’t the save all to humanity that the White House and the big 3 (among others) are trying to push them to be.

[Axle]

More useless two cents; Canadian; I'll take my rumbling gasoline v8 thank you very much. (F that 2035 no new ICE vehicles regulation they forced upon us). Heck, I won't even own a v6 because not enough rumble.
If forced to change, I'd willing go hybrid vehicle, but never full ev. I'm a guy who puts down the miles, I don't stop except to fuel up and take a fast bathroom stop. I know I would never tolerate having to wait for a vehicle to charge up. Theres time to smell the roses when I get to my destination.

[MikeB]

Originally Posted by best view

Sad part is government owns Chevrolet and the government gets there money from us...

From several sources:

The U.S. government spent $49.5 billion to bail out GM, and after the company’s bankruptcy in 2009, the government’s investment was converted to a 61 percent equity stake in the company. The Treasury gradually sold off its stock in GM, selling its last shares in December 2013.

[68bowtie]

Good to know. I didn’t realize that either.

Somehow they are still going head first into EV’s seemingly counter to financial reasons. I have my suspicions why, but it would definitely get political…. ��

[best view]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck

[Tom]

Everyone forgets that once the dealers only sell electric, the public will buy. Disposable cars need to be replaced eventually and they will buy what they can get.

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by best view

Sad part is government owns Chevrolet and the government gets there money from us, ive been buying my gas tanks at flea markets and throwing out the new ones that don’t work got 3 last year, I am not following like a sheep

Huh ? The treasury debt sold off its last shares in 2013

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...-sale/3925515/

Edit : sorry already addressed

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by Tom

Everyone forgets that once the dealers only sell electric, the public will buy. Disposable cars need to be replaced eventually and they will buy what they can get.

Cept us we’ll be driving 50 year old trucks . I know my dodge should last another 30

[68bowtie]

Originally Posted by Tom

Everyone forgets that once the dealers only sell electric, the public will buy. Disposable cars need to be replaced eventually and they will buy what they can get.

I don’t think anyone forgot this. This is the exact problem everyone has with the mandates.

[MikeB]

Originally Posted by Tom

Everyone forgets that once the dealers only sell electric, the public will buy.

I read an article saying a huge percentage of used gasoline-powered cars and light trucks will find their way to west coast states once EV mandates go into effect. So, buyers may still have a choice, at least for a while. However, signs are good that mandates are NOT just around the corner, or even a certainty.

I hope EVs remain an option, and not a mandate. It will be interesting to see what happens to manufacturers who actually go "all in".