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Old 09-13-2017, 09:49 AM   #26
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The dustless sandblasting just uses water along with the blast media. What I have seen done, leaves quite a bit of caked on blast media in the corners and crevasses that is a bit of a pain to take care of. I assume that you are aware that not all blasters know what they are doing on sheetmetal and not all do a thorough job? Also I would not allow anyone to use silica sand as an abrasive. Reason being that not all primers, particularly epoxy, is compatible with a surface that has silica imbeded into the metal. Yes the silica does get into the base metal.

Mobile Soda blasting is what I was considering, however these dry ice blasters seem like the best of both worlds.
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:11 PM   #27
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What frame and suspension will be going under the race truck?
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:48 PM   #28
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What frame and suspension will be going under the race truck?

We will be building a mostly one off program. Rob @ No Limit Engineering has been fantastic in terms of technical knowledge and I bought the Fat Bar 4 Bar kit from him as a starting point out back. Moser Supplied a narrowed 9" and Rob's people welded on the tabs.

Truck will be on coil overs on all four corners. Penski will be helping us with some 4 way adjustable's too.

Up front The wide ride from No Limit with a splined sway bar as well as Wilwood on all 4 corners.
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:26 AM   #29
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I don't know anything about dry ice blasting. Soda does not remove rust very well and I would not use it for that and other reasons.

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Mobile Soda blasting is what I was considering, however these dry ice blasters seem like the best of both worlds.
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Old 09-19-2017, 08:38 PM   #30
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Greg and I decided that we would invest in building an actual frame jig. Something that will become a fixture that we can not only build a truck on it, but use it as a measurable apparatus to lay out and build our frames, suspension and exhaust systems on it.

I chose to use H-Beam with a 6" web over traditional I-beam as the flange is more suited to clamping being parallel with the top face. In this shot you can see one of the 6 legs. The Legs are 6" x 2" 1/4" wall mild steel tube.

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1 of the center legs with the adjustable pads I sourced from McMaster Carr

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The end legs will have offset pads to clear the lowering caster (you will see more of that later)

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The other end.

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Standing on its feet for the first time
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At 17 feet long and 4 feet wide it is a beast. It will consume some shop space for sure
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Old 09-19-2017, 08:54 PM   #31
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Here it is sitting in it's home.


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Old 09-19-2017, 09:00 PM   #32
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Details of the caster plates. Using an 8 ton hydraulic jack I can lock the casters in the down position, lifting the pads 2" off the ground. The casters are rated to 3,000 Lbs. each so this rig will roll rather easily even with a full size truck sitting on top of it.

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Old 09-20-2017, 12:43 AM   #33
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I hope them trucks turn out as nice as that shop.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:42 AM   #34
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Awesome frame jig. Great idea using the jacks to raise it up like that
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:41 AM   #35
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I hope them trucks turn out as nice as that shop.
After all the work we put into building the shop, the truck builds are easy
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:42 AM   #36
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Awesome frame jig. Great idea using the jacks to raise it up like that

Thank you, simple ideas from a simple builder.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:43 PM   #37
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Very nice shop.
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:25 AM   #38
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Took delivery of the rotisserie yesterday. This is going to really help get things cleaned up. Being able to roll the cab and chassis to have access to the bottom sure does appeal to my old crippled self.


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Old 09-22-2017, 11:02 AM   #39
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Lets get some chicken on that rotisserie and start cooooooooking.
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Old 09-24-2017, 04:20 PM   #40
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No Chicken, but how about some 1965 Sheet metal?

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Greg sure looks happy.
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:19 PM   #41
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That is a really nice shop! Very impressive!
What kind of car-covers are those in the background? Do tell please!!
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Greg sure looks happy.
I couldn't be happier!
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Old 09-25-2017, 09:25 AM   #43
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That is a really nice shop! Very impressive!
What kind of car-covers are those in the background? Do tell please!!
Had those built by California Car Covers.

They are their California Customweave
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Old 09-25-2017, 07:00 PM   #44
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I built this Aluminum trailer to tow behind my Goldwing, turns out it is the perfect size to haul the cab over to the sandblaster.

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Loaded up Gregs Frame on to the fixture table.

This was a huge day for us.

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So we stripped the frame down, pulled off all the suspension and misc hardware, (Fuel Lines, brake lines, exhaust hangers, wire loom holders etc)

Now we need to precisely align and square the frame to the rack so we can construct the fixtures.

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Details on the fixtures.

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I'm all in for this one. Love the shop and all the cool jigs, haulers, etc. Thanks for providing dimensions and showing details for all of it. Cool trucks too!
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I'm all in for this one. Love the shop and all the cool jigs, haulers, etc. Thanks for providing dimensions and showing details for all of it. Cool trucks too!

Thank You Robbie

The new Wide Ride front clip ships to us tomorrow from No Limit over in Tennessee. That is very exciting.
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So today is the day I cut the frame in half

The No Limit kit uses a raised rail rear frame. So I mocked it up and clamped it next to the original frame for reference and to pull some dimensions to transfer over to the frame fixture.


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With everything figured out and chalked out, There was no excuses left so out comes the plasma cutter and I cut the back of the frame off.



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