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Old 03-16-2015, 01:06 PM   #76
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Re: S10 Frame Swap w/ AD and LS motor

I got the passenger's bedside sectioned over the weekend. Now its ready to weld together.
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I've been working on one of the stake pockets to straighten it out since it was beat to he!!. I probably have 4 hours into this dumb thing, and I still have to do the other side.
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By the way, here is how the shield (discussed above) ended up. People at the fair kept offering to buy it from my son, but he turned them down.
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Old 03-16-2015, 09:35 PM   #77
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shield is awesome, I can relate to his happiness. as a kid I went through a meadevil stage and would love to have something like this!!! I feel you on the stake pocket. I just had to make one from scratch for 47-53 bed.
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Old 03-30-2015, 07:28 PM   #78
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I'm working on fusing a cross sill for a '54 with the S10 cross sill so that I can attach the rear stake pockets to. These will get welded together, which is why I drilled all the holes into the metal.

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This bed has been taking a ton of time and work.
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Old 05-26-2015, 03:07 PM   #79
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I am getting close to finishing ONE of the bed sides. This has taken a long time due to the repairs and splicing I've had to do. Hopefully the other side will go faster.

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I had to buy new rear stake pockets and then modify them for my application, but the one side seems to fit pretty nicely.
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Old 05-26-2015, 04:01 PM   #80
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nice work, Funny how much longer stuff takes than you think. I had stake pocket troubles too, but mine were for prior years. crazy how much all the patches eat up time and money
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Old 07-02-2015, 02:44 PM   #81
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I'm getting close to being able to put the bedsides on. I still need to find some filler panels for the bed bottom, where the S10 wheel wells were.

They are here for a trial fit, but since they will ultimately be welded to the bottom angle iron, there will be no going back. It has taken me a while to beat the dents out of them, and everytime the lighting changes, I manage to find more dimples, creases,etc.

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I really want to get back to working on the cab soon.
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:52 PM   #82
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Re: S10 Frame Swap w/ AD and LS motor

I've been silently watching this build for a while now and have never posted. It looks awesome by the way!!

I really like the idea of keeping the S10 bed floor. Have you decided how you're going to fill the areas where the wheel tubs were?

I just recently posted my thread and plan to go with the AD kit when im at that point. You should go check it out.
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Old 07-16-2015, 06:53 PM   #83
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Thanks, Blaze. I will check out your thread. I plan on using pieces of another S10 bed to fill in the tub spaces. I thought I had one lined up but the guy just took a job in the mid west and won't be home for 2 months, so I have to find another.

I did actually see a company on ebay that sells patch panels for S10 beds but I'm going to see if in can find one at a boneyard and cut the middle out.
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Old 07-20-2015, 01:33 PM   #84
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So, while I am waiting to locate some filler panels for the bed, I figured I'd work on the suspension. I got the sway bar mounts welded on.

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Now I need to order some urethane bushings to tighten things up.
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Old 07-27-2015, 07:55 PM   #85
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Thanks, Blaze. I will check out your thread. I plan on using pieces of another S10 bed to fill in the tub spaces. I thought I had one lined up but the guy just took a job in the mid west and won't be home for 2 months, so I have to find another.

I did actually see a company on ebay that sells patch panels for S10 beds but I'm going to see if in can find one at a boneyard and cut the middle out.
tlorber, I recently checked with one of those (not e-bay) companies to see what the freight would be to my zip code. Like $15.00 plus the price of the part. The size they had listed would be more than enough to cover the space where the wheel tubs were. Clay
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:41 PM   #86
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I finally cut the middle of a bed out of an S10 at the wrecking yard. Since I only need a couple narrow strips, I may have enough to do an extra bed, so if any of you need a patch panel, feel free to hit me up.

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Old 10-12-2015, 12:56 PM   #87
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I finally got the bottom of my S10 bed completed (at least enough for now) by welding in patch panels where the fenders had been. I flattened out the weld seams as much as possible and then added some body filler to smooth them out.

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Then I got the bed sides welded on. This whole sub-project took me a long time due to all the dents and kinks in the bottom and bedsides-but now, with the bed together I have more space in the shop (and more storage space on the truck).

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Re: S10 Frame Swap w/ AD and LS motor

lookin good
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Nice job...Jim
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:54 PM   #90
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I've been working on mocking up my seat and accelerator location, and welding up holes in the cab. But since I don't have any pics, I'll post a couple of pics that I DO have. Taking a slight detour from the cab, I am shrinking the size of my steering wheel. I want to keep the original center, but since the wheel is so large (18" I think) I am hybridizing it with a 15" rim. I believe the 15" wheel came out of an early '70's ford.

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I have the center of the smaller wheel cut out and I will be welding the original center to the "new rim". Per one of Old Sarge's old posts, I will use epoxy to fill in the gaps. I'll post more pics as I progress.
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What size rear tires are you going to run? Why not keep the s10 inner fenderwells for more clearance?
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Bed looks great! - kudos to the hard work

i know how all that is, i just got finished working all the "kinks" out of my old bed sides and got them tubbed and fitted to a custom frame....
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Old 11-11-2015, 04:57 PM   #93
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I got rid of the tubs because I wanted to be able to haul plywood or sheetrock (48" wide) when I need to. It doesn't happen often, but I'd hate to have to borrow a truck when the need arises. Interior clearance in the S10 bed is now about 49.5".
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Ok, understood. Whats rear tire size?
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:35 PM   #95
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Rear tire size is 255/50/17. I don't remember the wheel offset, if any. They just barely clear the bedside (by like 1/4") so I will probably kick them out about 1" or so with spacers. I have to wait until I put the rear fenders back on to determine that.

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I still have a bit of grinding on both parts before I can weld them together.
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I like a big wheel, but that is looking real good.
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tlorber: just found your thread while looking for info on AD trucks/ LS engine swaps. I am new to this forum. Your progress looks great! I have a 50 chevy 1/2 ton, S10 frame, 06 5.3ls/ 4l60e, and a couple of baskets and boxes of parts. I am gathering parts and info to start my build. Any immediate thoughts as to things you would do differently, or specific problems with a 5.3 in an s10 frame, or clearance issues with the firewall or front sheetmetal? Any advice is appreciated. I will follow along. Thanks
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The steering wheel modification is really cool...
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:45 PM   #99
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Thanks guys.
50ish, I haven't had any major issues yet. I bought some motor mounts that adapted the LM7 block to the existing mount holes. Most of the critical measuring is where you locate your cab. There are quite a few threads here that address that.

One thing to consider though--I started out with a 3/4 ton truck, which was had very stiff springs, 9 lug wheels and was long (3/4 tons have a longer box). If I had started with a 1/2 ton , I might have tried to just work with the existing frame. I've heard from a couple people now that you can take front and rear Crown Victoria Suspensions and drop 1/2 ton frames straight onto them. That gives you the same front disk ifs/rear drum setup as an S body. It means you would need Ford wheels, but that's not a huge deal. Again, I have not verified this for myself, but I've heard it on more than one occasion. If true, it would be a lot less work than a frame swap.
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50ish, I haven't had any major issues yet. I bought some motor mounts that adapted the LM7 block to the existing mount holes. Most of the critical measuring is where you locate your cab. There are quite a few threads here that address that.

One thing to consider though--I started out with a 3/4 ton truck, which was had very stiff springs, 9 lug wheels and was long (3/4 tons have a longer box). If I had started with a 1/2 ton , I might have tried to just work with the existing frame. I've heard from a couple people now that you can take front and rear Crown Victoria Suspensions and drop 1/2 ton frames straight onto them. That gives you the same front disk ifs/rear drum setup as an S body. It means you would need Ford wheels, but that's not a huge deal. Again, I have not verified this for myself, but I've heard it on more than one occasion. If true, it would be a lot less work than a frame swap.
I wouldn't say it would be less work, but rather different work. Instead of making cab mounts you would need to run fuel lines, brake lines, etc. I really like the S-10 swap myself, I've put over 14,000 km's on my S-10 framed truck and couldn't be happier.
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