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BLAZERMAN · 03-17-2022, 06:57 PM

I've seen a few GM C/30 NAPCOs in my days but never a 30/3500 series Marmon Herrington. Marmon was well known for outfitting C/40 and bigger GM trucks and I've seen a few Ford 1 tons before they started making factory F350 4x4s in 79. This is probably one of a very few. I thought real hard on getting it since it's only 250 miles from me but I don't really have the room now. If I hadn't just got another C/30 I would have jumped on this for sure.
Hopefully someone here can see the beauty in this truck and save it.
Btw/ it does not have a divorced NP205 like the ad says, I believe it's a divorced Rockwell T-223.Ill try and post the additional.pics I have.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...0238100654270/

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57taskforce · 03-17-2022, 07:20 PM

AWESOME find! That’s a true beauty. That’s one hell of a set of springs under the rear. Hope it goes to a good home.

**too much stuff** · 03-17-2022, 10:28 PM

Very cool, you should get it rob...

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-17-2022, 10:32 PM

That's an awesome find Rob! When are you having it delivered? It says dana 60 in the ad, but we're dana 60 fronts even a thing then? I'm guessing that's a D70 since Ford and Dodge used them.

TALLone71 · 03-17-2022, 10:41 PM

great find!... hopefully it finds a good home, hmmm! if I didn't have so many projects already!....

BLAZERMAN · 03-18-2022, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 57taskforce

AWESOME find! That’s a true beauty. That’s one hell of a set of springs under the rear. Hope it goes to a good home.

Yes it is a heck of a set of springs! I see a rearward facing PTO shaft, I imagine it originally had a big tank and pump mounted on it.

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Originally Posted by too much stuff

Very cool, you should get it rob...

It's definitely Cool and if I had the room for another I would.

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

That's an awesome find Rob! When are you having it delivered? It says dana 60 in the ad, but we're dana 60 fronts even a thing then? I'm guessing that's a D70 since Ford and Dodge used them.

Yes it looks to be the old Dana 70 they used back then.

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Originally Posted by TALLone71

great find!... hopefully it finds a good home, hmmm! if I didn't have so many projects already!....

I hope so to, It would.make someone a nice project.

BLAZERMAN · 03-18-2022, 02:27 AM

Here you go Ryan, I forgot to post a front axle pic.

**jocko** · 03-18-2022, 11:23 AM

What a great candidate for an off road Class C camper rig…. Already a 157” wb. I can just picture a vintage Mitchell motor home swapped onto the back - and take it wherever you want, where the crowds can’t follow! Great find, I love these old MH and NAPCO conversions. Any idea what fire dept it served in? Lt blue paint indicates it may have had a second life somewhere(?)

BLAZERMAN · 03-18-2022, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko

What a great candidate for an off road Class C camper rig…. Already a 157” wb. I can just picture a vintage Mitchell motor home swapped onto the back - and take it wherever you want, where the crowds can’t follow! Great find, I love these old MH and NAPCO conversions. Any idea what fire dept it served in? Lt blue paint indicates it may have had a second life somewhere(?)

The guy that has it now hasn't owned it very long and didn't have any history on it. It still has an Oklahoma title tho and is in the oil field part of the state. It would be interesting to see what's under that blue paint on the doors.
With those big spring packs and the 11,000 pound axle it was meant to carry some weight.

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-18-2022, 03:40 PM

Thanks for the pic Rob. If it only had an Eaton front I'd be making plans for another butt chewing.

**Canadian694x4** · 03-19-2022, 12:40 AM

Awesome

**rs74** · 03-19-2022, 10:37 AM

That is something that you don't see everyday.

**special-K** · 03-19-2022, 02:52 PM

The ultimate '72 4wd, a Heavy C3500 Marmon-Harrington conversion. Would have been even cooler as a big block Sierra Grande TH400. It's truly a K4500 with the 11,000# axle option. so that's an HO110 rear, right? Dodge had started using 8-lug hubs on their 1Ts by '71. I had 8-lug '71 W300 axles in the '69 Power Wagon I built, front & rear Dana70s

factorystock · 03-19-2022, 05:53 PM

Appears to have the 5-10 lug system, used on HD 3500 or HD c 30's with 11k axles. Appears to be an ex Fire Dept brush or mini pumper.

jumpsoffrock · 03-19-2022, 07:35 PM

This is a pic from the side; are those huge plates mounting the rear springs the way the factory did it?

He's asking $5k, not bad really.

**Bob B.** · 03-20-2022, 02:23 AM

I don't think so, looks to me like that's how Marmon-Herrington raised the rear to level the truck. My comapany had a few mid-80's GMC 7000's that where M-H 4X4 conversions.

Yup, super rare, no question!

**special-K** · 03-20-2022, 10:25 AM

So it has the original HO110 10-lug rear and M-H used an 8-lug Dana 70 up front. What a dream truck? that thing needs a low-profile utility body with an Alaskan perched on it. And Gear Vendors overdrive!

factorystock · 03-20-2022, 10:58 AM

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And Gear Vendors overdrive!

Right! OD is a must have! Also, a set of solid 19.5" wheels! Agree with others, rare, 4x4 conversions on 1 tons and HD 1 tons are very low production. I would prefer the 3500 4x4 over a C 50 4x4 .

BLAZERMAN · 03-20-2022, 12:31 PM

On this rig with it's divorced transfer case I would just switch out the SM465 for a 2 wheel drive NV4500.

**special-K** · 03-20-2022, 07:35 PM

There ya go

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-22-2022, 07:52 AM

Such a very cool truck. That rear side pic is very nice to see. They were probably the only ones to do the rear like that I'd have to bet.

**special-K** · 03-22-2022, 08:27 AM

I have thought about brackets like that to lift a truck and wondered why I hadn't seen it done. Makes sense that M-H would since they are in the business of adapting drivetrain to chassis.

03-17-2022, 06:57 PM	#1
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! I've seen a few GM C/30 NAPCOs in my days but never a 30/3500 series Marmon Herrington. Marmon was well known for outfitting C/40 and bigger GM trucks and I've seen a few Ford 1 tons before they started making factory F350 4x4s in 79. This is probably one of a very few. I thought real hard on getting it since it's only 250 miles from me but I don't really have the room now. If I hadn't just got another C/30 I would have jumped on this for sure. Hopefully someone here can see the beauty in this truck and save it. Btw/ it does not have a divorced NP205 like the ad says, I believe it's a divorced Rockwell T-223.Ill try and post the additional.pics I have. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...0238100654270/ Attached Images __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

03-17-2022, 07:05 PM	#2
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! More pics Attached Images __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

03-17-2022, 07:09 PM	#3
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! More Attached Images __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

03-17-2022, 07:13 PM	#4
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! Last Attached Images __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

03-17-2022, 07:20 PM	#5
57taskforce All about them K’s Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Farmington, New Mexico Posts: 6,234	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! AWESOME find! That’s a true beauty. That’s one hell of a set of springs under the rear. Hope it goes to a good home. __________________ Tyler '57 3100 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=813888 '72 K20 Cheyenne http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=662879 ‘69 K10 SWB http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=805206 '98 Silverado LT K2500HD ECLB Vortec 454/4l80E: 6" lift 315/75/16's ‘87 IROC-Z all original 50K mile survivor TPI 305 IROC Blue ‘10 Camaro 2SS/RS Aqua Blue Metallic #93 -version 2.0

03-17-2022, 10:28 PM	#6
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,705	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! Very cool, you should get it rob... __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

03-17-2022, 10:32 PM	#7
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,138	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! That's an awesome find Rob! When are you having it delivered? It says dana 60 in the ad, but we're dana 60 fronts even a thing then? I'm guessing that's a D70 since Ford and Dodge used them. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.* Last edited by Dieselwrencher; 03-18-2022 at 12:19 AM.

03-17-2022, 10:41 PM	#8
TALLone71 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Richmond va Posts: 179	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! great find!... hopefully it finds a good home, hmmm! if I didn't have so many projects already!.... __________________ :chevy

03-18-2022, 02:27 AM	#10
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! Here you go Ryan, I forgot to post a front axle pic. Attached Images __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

03-18-2022, 11:23 AM	#11
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,934	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! What a great candidate for an off road Class C camper rig…. Already a 157” wb. I can just picture a vintage Mitchell motor home swapped onto the back - and take it wherever you want, where the crowds can’t follow! Great find, I love these old MH and NAPCO conversions. Any idea what fire dept it served in? Lt blue paint indicates it may have had a second life somewhere(?)

03-18-2022, 03:40 PM	#13
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,138	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! Thanks for the pic Rob. If it only had an Eaton front I'd be making plans for another butt chewing. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

03-19-2022, 12:40 AM	#14
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,306	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! Awesome __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 20 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada! - 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 2 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 13 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 6 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

03-19-2022, 10:37 AM	#15
rs74 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,957	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! That is something that you don't see everyday. __________________ Roy 85 Short Bed Silverado- Work in progress. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=564818 1987 R10 shortie

03-19-2022, 02:52 PM	#16
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! The ultimate '72 4wd, a Heavy C3500 Marmon-Harrington conversion. Would have been even cooler as a big block Sierra Grande TH400. It's truly a K4500 with the 11,000# axle option. so that's an HO110 rear, right? Dodge had started using 8-lug hubs on their 1Ts by '71. I had 8-lug '71 W300 axles in the '69 Power Wagon I built, front & rear Dana70s __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

03-19-2022, 05:53 PM	#17
factorystock Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: west coast Posts: 3,354	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! Appears to have the 5-10 lug system, used on HD 3500 or HD c 30's with 11k axles. Appears to be an ex Fire Dept brush or mini pumper.



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03-19-2022, 07:35 PM	#18
jumpsoffrock Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: California Posts: 923	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! This is a pic from the side; are those huge plates mounting the rear springs the way the factory did it? He's asking $5k, not bad really. Attached Images

03-20-2022, 02:23 AM	#19
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,309	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! I don't think so, looks to me like that's how Marmon-Herrington raised the rear to level the truck. My comapany had a few mid-80's GMC 7000's that where M-H 4X4 conversions. Yup, super rare, no question! __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

03-20-2022, 10:25 AM	#20
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! So it has the original HO110 10-lug rear and M-H used an 8-lug Dana 70 up front. What a dream truck? that thing needs a low-profile utility body with an Alaskan perched on it. And Gear Vendors overdrive! __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

03-20-2022, 12:31 PM	#22
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! On this rig with it's divorced transfer case I would just switch out the SM465 for a 2 wheel drive NV4500. __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

03-20-2022, 07:35 PM	#23
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! There ya go __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

03-22-2022, 07:52 AM	#24
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,138	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! Such a very cool truck. That rear side pic is very nice to see. They were probably the only ones to do the rear like that I'd have to bet. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

03-22-2022, 08:27 AM	#25
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: There is Rare, then there is Super Rare! I have thought about brackets like that to lift a truck and wondered why I hadn't seen it done. Makes sense that M-H would since they are in the business of adapting drivetrain to chassis. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

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