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11-04-2018, 11:32 AM | #1 |
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compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
I'm getting ready to paint a glove box door, ash tray, and the inside of a tailgate. I have what I think is a moisture filter installed after the tank's regulator, but I haven't seen water in the bowl in many years.
That's the background info, here are my questions: If I start from scratch, what is the minimal filter/dryer setup I can use? Not looking for the cheapest, just most bang for the buck. And should the regulator be in-line before or after the filters? I also plan to run the hose to a vertical section of pipe on the wall with the air hose connector (for the paint gun) at chest level and a drain a few feet below it. Any suggestions there? Here's the current filter. What is it, and is it worth keeping?
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11-04-2018, 12:24 PM | #2 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
You've never had water in the filter because it's still vapour because it's hot air coming directly out of the compressor. Any filter is required to be some distance away from the source which will allow the air to cool enough to allow the water to condense.
I would reccomend looking at Devilbiss DAD500 for my first pick (barring price) https://www.autorefinishdevilbiss.co...n/dad-500.aspx This unit is a three stage system that removes dirt, oil and water. or thier Finishline product https://www.autorefinishdevilbiss.co...trol-unit.aspx as a price concious solution as my second choice but this one only removes water. I do not work for, or represent Devilbiss or the web page company that I found in my search for the filters.
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11-04-2018, 01:37 PM | #3 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
Thanks for the suggestions. Yes, the first one is very pricey for my garage and infrequent painting. If using the FinishLine unit, would it make sense to run just my paint gun off of it, and connect air tools to a port "before it? Was thinking I could use a particulate filter between the air tool tap and compressor.
The filter I have is a Parker 06F21AB, but it is very old and I can't even find an element for it. Hey, how about this one for my paint gun? http://www.pneumaticplus.com/pneumat...ystem-1-4-npt/ Is it comparable to the FinishLine functionally?
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11-04-2018, 04:35 PM | #4 | |
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Yes, I run a CamAIR QC3, that's what I do. the CamAIR is identical to the Finishline but has a larger desicant filter. The desiccant filter does a great job of removing moisture BUT does not last long. If you run air tools through this filter it will need replaced way too often. If you just run your paint gun through it, you can easily paint the entire vehicle on one filter. My filter goes bad from absorbing moisture over long periods of me not using it. I guess you could remove it & bag it, might last longer. I just buy a new filter when I paint a vehicle - cheap insurance. The filter system you linked is not as good as the FinishLine. It will not remove moisture as well & I don't think it will flow as much air as the FinishLine filter. Last edited by B. W.; 11-04-2018 at 04:45 PM. |
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11-06-2018, 12:34 PM | #5 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
I've ran a PneumaticPlus for a year now and have no complaints. It runs air tools heavily with some spraying mixed in. The filters are cleanable, and I do so when switching to painting just for peace of mind. The location of your filter/dryer/regulator in relation to your compressor is very important as mentioned, the further away the more time it has to cool and condense.
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11-08-2018, 02:00 PM | #6 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
I don't have a dryer on mine. My compressor is in the back of the garage, I ran 15 feet of black pipe off the compressor to the front of the garage then have it zig zag up the wall a few feet. I put a valve at the bottom of the pipe and a small filter at the top.
I can run it non stop for hours and unless it is the hottest and most humid day of the year I wont have any moisture that makes it to the filter. I open the valve on the pipe and the compressor after each use to keep the moisture in the set up down.
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11-08-2018, 06:26 PM | #7 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
Thanks for all the advice. Keep the ideas coming!
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11-09-2018, 01:34 PM | #8 | |
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11-09-2018, 07:30 PM | #9 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
Here is a cooler/dryer I made from some govt surplus Hummer AC add-on parts. The fan is a 24V fan that spins nicely on 12v from the large wall wart sitting on top. The power cord is tied into the pressure switch so it only runs when the compressor motor runs. Hose from the compressor to cooler is some transmission cooler hose from a parts store. Rated something like 250 psi @ 400*F. It captures a lot of water in the Kobalt filter water trap. So much so that even after a lot of use on a high humidity day, I only get a few drops of water out of the tank drain. The air going into the tank is almost room temp.
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11-10-2018, 11:41 AM | #10 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
I made a post cooler for my setup. It's just a 10 gallon water cooler that I put a 1/2 inch copper coil in . Air goes in at the top and comes out where the spigot was followed by a water separator. Most times ambient air temp is all that's needed but when it hot and humid I fill it with cold water. You just need to have enough line to warm the air back up before the spray gun
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11-10-2018, 11:45 AM | #11 |
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I'll post a picture when I get home
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11-12-2018, 01:13 PM | #12 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
I don't have any good pictures of it. Here is where the pipe runs back and forth with the valve to dump off water and the filters connecting to the air line.
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11-20-2018, 07:18 PM | #13 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
I've got 20 feet of copper line coiled inside a 5 gallon bucket mounted in an old dorm fridge with a water trap on the outlet. Works great even in South Carolina heat and humidity.
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11-20-2018, 11:46 PM | #14 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
You guys are really clever.
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11-26-2018, 07:46 PM | #15 |
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Re: compressed air filter and dryer recommendations
I too don’t run a dryer but would if I can get my hands on one at the right price. I get by though and run a large diameter hose and hang it up high, then down then up again like a snake up and down then reduce to a narrower hose to a disposable filter on the gun. It’s worked for me so far
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