Guess that clip, clamp, retainer, etc.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Mostly a repeat of a thread I added some time ago. Since then I've made some headway. I pulled this stuff off when the engine was rebuilt in 1993. Before I put my young paws on it the truck was what we call unmolested. At least I saved the parts. Wondering what you guys think.

Feel free to add more clips etc. It's the finder details

Both of my trucks are 71-72 402 with A/C. These parts came off the 71.


Added the image in post 31, (original link was lost)

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

I must be the only ClipOholic, seeing a specialist for it. I seem to recall seeing #6 on the truck, just don't remember where.

[leftybass209]

If #10 is really stiff and strong, I seem to remember pulling those off of my parking brake cable.

[leftybass209]

Rifling through a chassis manual can probably help with some of that, too.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by leftybass209

If #10 is really stiff and strong, I seem to remember pulling those off of my parking brake cable.

EDIT: Unless there are variances, the E-cable clamps are a thicker gauge. That and they have a hole, see pic. Excuse the unsightly fingers. Painting today, changed oil, etc. Someday I'll wise up and use disposable gloves.

I believe they use two. One on the inner fender and the other on the frame.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by leftybass209

Rifling through a chassis manual can probably help with some of that, too.

Thanks. At a glance I see a few illustrations, such as page 67-4.

[Mike_The_Grad]

#1 Could be either or. Original positive battery cables were routed down low and close to the block, using one of the oil pan bolts to secure a clip. I recall this because years ago when I wanted to get a replacement positive battery cable from Oreillys they said it called for a 48" long cable. I seriously don't remember pulling a 4' long positive battery cable out of there. But then again I am the 3rd owner...

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by Mike_The_Grad

#1 Could be either or. Original positive battery cables were routed down low and close to the block, using one of the oil pan bolts to secure a clip. I recall this because years ago when I wanted to get a replacement positive battery cable from Oreillys they said it called for a 48" long cable. I seriously don't remember pulling a 4' long positive battery cable out of there. But then again I am the 3rd owner...

Thank you. 80/20 you have a side post battery?.

I goofed on #1. My other truck doesn't have the same clip at the oil pan. It's very similar, but the hooks are much shorter. I'd say it was used for a battery cable.

Not sure how #1 was used on this truck. I thought for sure it was the battery cable, but then I found this to add to the confusion. If this is correct, and the lines would insert into the retainer well, baring other route considerations. But then where's the positive battery cable retained? Looks like this cable is between the top of the motor mount & exhaust.

[mike16]

If you gain access to the National Corvette Restorers Society web site, they have restoration books that go into increadable detail about the under hood details of corvette's. those same bits and baubble's are located pretty much in the same place on trucks. heavy duty is high performance.

also......

many corvette restoration vendors' catalogs sell those bits and baubble's and thier catalogs show those bits in thier location and for sale..

I would recommend only going through those vendors who advertise through NCRS because scammers and junk dealers dont last long there.

[Mike_The_Grad]

I see what you mean. I have a clip very similar to the #1 clip, but it fully wraps around the trans cooler lines. Same spacing I believe. I'd have to go dig around my parts jars in the garage. I'm sure I have a couple of clips that can add to the confusion, which is why I have them in a jar and not back on the truck.
My thinking is that GM probably made that clip you have there for the battery cable rather than the transmission cooler lines because the battery cable would probably need servicing more often than transmission cooler lines. And having the ability to remove the cable without detaching the clip is easier for the guy performing the service.

[FirstOwner69]

The following is based on my '69 with 350 and TH400. Big blocks, sixes and years may differ.

#3- My truck has a black rubber coated version to retain the front harness to the firewall between the engine side of the fuse block and where the harness passes between the inner and outer fenders.

#4- back of alternator.

#7- Used to retain the positive battery cable to the lip of the oil pan as it passes to the starter

#10- Can't tell for sure but that type in various sizes is used to hold the parking brake cable to the inner fender, the fuel line to the frame (in at least one place), etc.

#s 8, 9 11- possibly for wires. For example, one something like #11 is used at the side of the water pump on my 350 to retain the wire that runs to the temperature sensor that is mounted in the left head. That wire is encased inside a fabric loom.

The transmission lines are not secured to the engine or frame in any manner. I don't believe that would be a good idea as they would be twisted/flexed every time the engine "rocks" under acceleration. The clip on the lines only holds the lines together as they run from the transmission to the radiator.

The top picture (front of engine to the right) shows the positive cable clips and a transmission line clip installed. The second and third pictures show the positive cable clips, an additional clip and my notes regarding placement of those clips. The fourth picture shows the front harness clip and the clip on the parking brake cable. In the fourth picture you can see another similar "J" clip holding a red 12 gauge wire. That wire is the hot positive that is part of the camper wiring option. That particular clip is upside down and, if I remember correctly, has been since the truck was new.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

I may have anticipated Firstowner chiming in. My responses in blue.

#3- My truck has a black rubber coated version to retain the front harness to the firewall between the engine side of the fuse block and where the harness passes between the inner and outer fenders. Understood. What steered me from that is it's Chevy engine orange and no rubber.

#4- back of alternator. Ah, confirmation thank you.

#7- Used to retain the positive battery cable to the lip of the oil pan as it passes to the starter. Heck yeah they are. Sure a better fit than my suggestion of a/c & blower wires, which probably wouldn't work. Still #1 is a mystery.

#10- Can't tell for sure but that type in various sizes is used to hold the parking brake cable to the inner fender, the fuel line to the frame (in at least one place), etc. These aren't for the E-brake on either of my trucks. See post 5 if interested. One way or another I'll find use for them.

#s 8, 9 11- possibly for wires. For example, one something like #11 is used at the side of the water pump on my 350 to retain the wire that runs to the temperature sensor that is mounted in the left head. That wire is encased inside a fabric loom. I see my 72 has the fabric loom. Must have been removed from the 71, and I believe we installed the sensor on the wrong head (right) with the rebuild in 93. That said, from this angle the routing for that wire is "peculiar". Runs with the rest of the wires through the F/W gutter, back over the rear of the block to the LH head.

The transmission lines are not secured to the engine or frame in any manner. I don't believe that would be a good idea as they would be twisted/flexed every time the engine "rocks" under acceleration. The clip on the lines only holds the lines together as they run from the transmission to the radiator. I recognize that clip. I still have mystery clip #1, but I get your meaning. I'll add your clip to my wish list. For what it's worth, my lines are bound fairly tightly to the motor mount perch using a clip on my 72, using a clip similar or exactly like #5. Nothing on the 71.

The top picture (front of engine to the right) shows the positive cable clips and a transmission line clip installed. Clean undercarriage.

The second and third pictures show the positive cable clips, an additional clip and my notes regarding placement of those clips. I recognize said additional clip. Mounts to the "lip" on top of the frame.

The fourth picture shows the front harness clip and the clip on the parking brake cable. In the fourth picture you can see another similar "J" clip holding a red 12 gauge wire. That wire is the hot positive that is part of the camper wiring option. That particular clip is upside down and, if I remember correctly, has been since the truck was new. No reason to change now.


On a side, concerning the pipe clamps per #6. I suspect they were used for the aux. transmission cooler or saddle tanks on this truck. I remember seeing them on to far to remember, just not where. It's not as if there are many options, considering they fasten using a #10 screw.



Thanks a bunch Jim. Appreciate your time & info.

[72chevynut]

#3 looks like the clip to hold starter wiring found on the bell housing bolt to engine block (sometimes same bolt holding auto trans dipstick tube).

[DeadheadNM]

#1 is the same clip I personally removed from my 72 4wd blue blazer w th350 (original motor and tranny) - it secured the tranny lines to the block at the oil pan along the rh side of the engine. It is painted orange matching the engine. The battery cables on the same truck are original and had no such clip. Maybe bb are different though.

Reference pics of the cables and attachment hardware: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...4&postcount=46

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

#1 is the same clip I personally removed from my 72 4wd blue blazer w th350 (original motor and tranny) - it secured the tranny lines to the block at the oil pan along the rh side of the engine. It is painted orange matching the engine. The battery cables on the same truck are original and had no such clip. Maybe bb are different though.

Reference pics of the cables and attachment hardware: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...4&postcount=46

I'd say this truck used #1 for the trans. lines and #7 for battery cable. All three to the oil pan. You happen to recall which bolt the transmission retainer was on?

I'll update the image in the OP with new information, thanks to a few responses. Appreciate it.

[nightrider388]

#3 on my truck is the rear brake line clip at 1:00 on the rear end. I know because took my off and painted it last night. Now, that could be where someone just put it over the years, but it fits the brake lines perfect.

[DeadheadNM]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

I'd say this truck used #1 for the trans. lines and #7 for battery cable. All three to the oil pan. You happen to recall which bolt the transmission retainer was on?

I'll update the image in the OP with new information, thanks to a few responses. Appreciate it.

Dang - one of the few brackets I didn't photo. But - the same is on the sb400 in my k1500 and its affixed with the third bolt from the front of oil pan rh side.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Thanks Deadhead

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Here are the the clips fastened to the inside of the RH frame for retaining the hard lines. They're in order front to back.

Edit, on a side, I believe the last two (brake) are galvanized. The others, at least, will be plated or coated. Can't say how those were treated. Perhaps anodized. Whatever it was it worked.

Edit again: Not all clips are the same of course. These came off a 71. My 72 has cooler clips that separate the lines.

[DeadheadNM]

I had a batch of frame clips replated recently and painted them over the weekend. These are from a 72 Blazer: red clips have three lines (fuel or vapor lines), orange clips are for two fuel lines, and green are for two brake lines but one green also secures the ebrake cable with the speedo cable. Spring clamps were yellow.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

I had a batch of frame clips replated recently and painted them over the weekend. These are from a 72 Blazer: red clips have three lines (fuel or vapor lines), orange clips are for two fuel lines, and green are for two brake lines but one green also secures the ebrake cable with the speedo cable. Spring clamps were yellow.

Very cool. Aren't those two red clips for the transmission lines?

The pinch clamps for my vapor lines were two different shades of yellow. Under the cab were a dark mustard yellow. The connection between the two vent lines on the frame were a light shade of yellow, like how yours are painted. I imagine they're light yellow to the vapor canister, but my canister had been removed.

The fuel line connection under the cab were brown or dark tan pinch clamps. My wife can't decide, and she's pretty good with colors. The pinch clamps for the fuel pump had been removed, but I figure they were the same color.

[DeadheadNM]

The clips for the tranny lines are Chevy orange like the block. The red clips are the pile to the lower right side of the screen. I don't recall seeing any spring clamps that weren't yellow - it wouldn't surprise me if some are and certainly some were discolored beyond recognition. The vent tubes from the diffs had yellow clamps.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

The clips for the tranny lines are Chevy orange like the block. The red clips are the pile to the lower right side of the screen. I don't recall seeing any spring clamps that weren't yellow - it wouldn't surprise me if some are and certainly some were discolored beyond recognition. The vent tubes from the diffs had yellow clamps.

Ah. I'm color/shade blind. I thought the red were black

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

More clips. Two were shown under post 19, but being they're brake tube clips, they belong here.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

I cleaned A LOT of parts last week. Gave me a chance to organize clips.

These are all of the factory steel "clips" on my 71, with 1-2 spares, which had a clear or black finish (i.e, not body color or rubber coated). Off the top of my head, not represented is the battery hold down clamp, exhaust hangers, distributor retainer, pinch and bolt clamps.

At this point, I think I'll have most of this clear zinc coated. Some black phosphate or black zinc.