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autorecycler · 02-08-2003, 02:34 PM

Hello to all. I just scored a 70 roller. The body is very rough and the motor/trans are gone. It does have dropped spindles, power discs and power steering. My question is, do these parts bolt on to my 67?

6772king · 02-08-2003, 04:08 PM

yes the whole frontend will bolt in or if you just want to put the spindles and power stering in you will have to use 71-72 ball joint's. just use the Whole steering assembely and it will bolt in

Longhorn Man · 02-09-2003, 12:20 AM

King...why would he need 71/72 ball joints for a 70 front end?

autorecycler · 02-09-2003, 03:57 PM

I was wondering the same thing. I am planning to get a poly graphite rebuild kit for the front end when I do this. Will put on the power brakes, power steering rebuild it and do the rear at the same time, a very busy three day weekend..lol

6772king · 02-09-2003, 05:54 PM

Good Question, when I read power disc brake's i just assumed that some one allready converted it to disc. just to be clear you have drumes on the front now and you want to put roters on the front???

crazy longhorn · 02-09-2003, 06:02 PM

The way I understand it, the 70 front end has disc brakes......if its factory 71-72 pcs, it will need the 71-72 balljoints, center link, tierods, ect. the 73 up pcs will also fit(different top ball joint,& outer tierod end).......or were the spindles aftermarket bolt on pcs for the 70? That would be the first thing to check......crazyL

Longhorn Man · 02-09-2003, 06:17 PM

I didn't even notice the word disc in there....I thought the drop spindles was what he was after...either way, need to find out what you have under that 70.

autorecycler · 02-12-2003, 01:23 AM

ok, to clear it all up. The 67 I am driving has four wheel drums. Nice for the purist but I prefer the reliability. The roller has power disc/drum and has been modified with drop spindles and is dropped 5 inches in the back it also has power steering. What I want to do is take the power steering, the disc brakes, dropped spindles and put them on my 67. i'll drop the back three inches to level things out.

Longhorn Man · 02-12-2003, 01:28 AM

Being that we don't know if it is a conversion kit for a 70, or just a dropped spindle for a 71/72 and the rest of the parts swapped out, i would say swap all of it out out one for the other....basicly like King was saying up there to begin with.

crazy longhorn · 02-12-2003, 01:32 AM

probably the easiest / no confusion way would be to swap the complete crossmember assy under your truck......that way you dont have to try to guess what yr the spindles are from. Good luck, crazyL

crazy longhorn · 02-12-2003, 01:35 AM

You type faster than me longhorn!

Andy4639 · 02-12-2003, 02:54 AM

Why not think about swaping body parts and motor,trans. to the 70 frame. You would have to only do minor work in pulling motor trans together and then swap front sheet metal. I know this sounds like alot of work, but myself I can handle the sheet metal transfer and motor,trans before I could the under carriage, and all the stuff with the disc to drums swap.
You could even take the whole 67 body and swap out with the 70 couldn't you?

OK enough just wanted to see what you thought about it?

Blue68 · 02-12-2003, 12:09 PM

Okay guys, regardless of what approach he takes, he needs to know about the spindles. Things do wear out. He needs to know what they are in order to buy replacement parts in the years to come. Once he knows this, we can tell him the best approach.

BTW, there are no parts on the frontend of a 67 - 72 truck that can be replaced with a Polygraphite kit (excluding a roll bar bushing). The control arm bushings are steel and you can get as good or better quality ball joints and tie rod ends at you local shop.

autorecycler · 02-13-2003, 01:07 AM

Thanks blue, did not know that about the front suspension. Been working Camaros and chevelles for so long. How do I check to find out what kind of spindles. Still waiting to get the truck. I'm supposed to get it this weekend after he pulols the motor and trans

Blue68 · 02-13-2003, 12:02 PM

Check out this post for some information on finding out. First thing I'd do is rule out 1 inch rotors. If it's these, then you know it's in the '73-87 range. Otherwise, you have to find out between the 71-72 or 73-87 years. If they are actually a aftermarket setup manufactured for the '70 (such as those sold by ECE) that use the stock components for that year model (actually 67 - 70) then you would just buy replacement parts for you year model. Pulling the parts (if you can't find a stamping like CPP does) and taking to the parts house is going to be the most reliable approach.

One other thing, you will also need to swap all the steering components (especially pitman arm and drag link). And don't toss anything for a while after making the swap. Just in case you need to go back and compare to make sure you got everything.

02-08-2003, 02:34 PM	#1
autorecycler Recycler Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mill City Oregon Posts: 88	70-67 questions Hello to all. I just scored a 70 roller. The body is very rough and the motor/trans are gone. It does have dropped spindles, power discs and power steering. My question is, do these parts bolt on to my 67? __________________ 72 C20 with a 350. Previous owner swapped the 4 speed for a 700R4 auto. I'm retired and volunteer at state and national parks. I spend summers in Oregon. Found this truck for $800 and offered $600. Paid for it with $$ made from recycling bottles and cans. Oregon pays .05 per can/bottle. Now doing restification with recycled parts purchased with recycling $$.

02-08-2003, 04:08 PM	#2
6772king Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: grove city pa usa Posts: 628	yes the whole frontend will bolt in or if you just want to put the spindles and power stering in you will have to use 71-72 ball joint's. just use the Whole steering assembely and it will bolt in __________________ 67 chevy short step 2wd 427 71 chevy short fleet 4x4 396 72 gmc jimmy 2wd 377 71 chevy blazer 4x4 454 69 chevy longhorn 5.9l cummins 72 chevy 400 2wd custom camper 67 chevy lwb 4x4 454-in pieces 67 chevy panel soon 4x4-400 67 gmc dump 4x4 1 ton-305 WTF!! 72 chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 burb 350 70 chevy panel 2wd 302 5 speed tko "THERE IS NO REPLACMENT FOR DISPLACMENT"!!!!!!!

02-09-2003, 05:54 PM	#5
6772king Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: grove city pa usa Posts: 628	Good Question, when I read power disc brake's i just assumed that some one allready converted it to disc. just to be clear you have drumes on the front now and you want to put roters on the front??? __________________ 67 chevy short step 2wd 427 71 chevy short fleet 4x4 396 72 gmc jimmy 2wd 377 71 chevy blazer 4x4 454 69 chevy longhorn 5.9l cummins 72 chevy 400 2wd custom camper 67 chevy lwb 4x4 454-in pieces 67 chevy panel soon 4x4-400 67 gmc dump 4x4 1 ton-305 WTF!! 72 chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 burb 350 70 chevy panel 2wd 302 5 speed tko "THERE IS NO REPLACMENT FOR DISPLACMENT"!!!!!!!

02-09-2003, 06:02 PM	#6
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	The way I understand it, the 70 front end has disc brakes......if its factory 71-72 pcs, it will need the 71-72 balljoints, center link, tierods, ect. the 73 up pcs will also fit(different top ball joint,& outer tierod end).......or were the spindles aftermarket bolt on pcs for the 70? That would be the first thing to check......crazyL __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

02-12-2003, 01:23 AM	#8
autorecycler Recycler Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mill City Oregon Posts: 88	ok, to clear it all up. The 67 I am driving has four wheel drums. Nice for the purist but I prefer the reliability. The roller has power disc/drum and has been modified with drop spindles and is dropped 5 inches in the back it also has power steering. What I want to do is take the power steering, the disc brakes, dropped spindles and put them on my 67. i'll drop the back three inches to level things out. __________________ 72 C20 with a 350. Previous owner swapped the 4 speed for a 700R4 auto. I'm retired and volunteer at state and national parks. I spend summers in Oregon. Found this truck for $800 and offered $600. Paid for it with $$ made from recycling bottles and cans. Oregon pays .05 per can/bottle. Now doing restification with recycled parts purchased with recycling $$.

02-09-2003, 12:20 AM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	King...why would he need 71/72 ball joints for a 70 front end?

02-09-2003, 03:57 PM	#4
autorecycler Recycler Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mill City Oregon Posts: 88	I was wondering the same thing. I am planning to get a poly graphite rebuild kit for the front end when I do this. Will put on the power brakes, power steering rebuild it and do the rear at the same time, a very busy three day weekend..lol

02-09-2003, 06:17 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	I didn't even notice the word disc in there....I thought the drop spindles was what he was after...either way, need to find out what you have under that 70.

02-12-2003, 01:28 AM	#9
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Being that we don't know if it is a conversion kit for a 70, or just a dropped spindle for a 71/72 and the rest of the parts swapped out, i would say swap all of it out out one for the other....basicly like King was saying up there to begin with.

02-12-2003, 01:32 AM	#10
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	probably the easiest / no confusion way would be to swap the complete crossmember assy under your truck......that way you dont have to try to guess what yr the spindles are from. Good luck, crazyL __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

02-12-2003, 01:35 AM	#11
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	You type faster than me longhorn! __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

02-12-2003, 02:54 AM	#12
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,936	Just asking? Why not think about swaping body parts and motor,trans. to the 70 frame. You would have to only do minor work in pulling motor trans together and then swap front sheet metal. I know this sounds like alot of work, but myself I can handle the sheet metal transfer and motor,trans before I could the under carriage, and all the stuff with the disc to drums swap. You could even take the whole 67 body and swap out with the 70 couldn't you? OK enough just wanted to see what you thought about it? __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

02-12-2003, 12:09 PM	#13
Blue68 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Frisco, Tx, USA Posts: 606	Okay guys, regardless of what approach he takes, he needs to know about the spindles. Things do wear out. He needs to know what they are in order to buy replacement parts in the years to come. Once he knows this, we can tell him the best approach. BTW, there are no parts on the frontend of a 67 - 72 truck that can be replaced with a Polygraphite kit (excluding a roll bar bushing). The control arm bushings are steel and you can get as good or better quality ball joints and tie rod ends at you local shop. __________________ http://home.comcast.net/~r.landrum/w...tos.html-.html '68 C-10 LWB, '98 Z-71 350 w/accessories (Serpentine), Edelbrock Performer, Edelbrock 1405 (600cfm) carb, GM HEI, CompCam Extreme 4x4 roller cam, Thorley Headers, Carter Electric Fuel Pump, Vintage Air, 700r4, 3.73, disc brakes and power steering upgrades.

02-13-2003, 01:07 AM	#14
autorecycler Recycler Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mill City Oregon Posts: 88	Thanks blue, did not know that about the front suspension. Been working Camaros and chevelles for so long. How do I check to find out what kind of spindles. Still waiting to get the truck. I'm supposed to get it this weekend after he pulols the motor and trans __________________ 72 C20 with a 350. Previous owner swapped the 4 speed for a 700R4 auto. I'm retired and volunteer at state and national parks. I spend summers in Oregon. Found this truck for $800 and offered $600. Paid for it with $$ made from recycling bottles and cans. Oregon pays .05 per can/bottle. Now doing restification with recycled parts purchased with recycling $$.

02-13-2003, 12:02 PM	#15
Blue68 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Frisco, Tx, USA Posts: 606	Check out this post for some information on finding out. First thing I'd do is rule out 1 inch rotors. If it's these, then you know it's in the '73-87 range. Otherwise, you have to find out between the 71-72 or 73-87 years. If they are actually a aftermarket setup manufactured for the '70 (such as those sold by ECE) that use the stock components for that year model (actually 67 - 70) then you would just buy replacement parts for you year model. Pulling the parts (if you can't find a stamping like CPP does) and taking to the parts house is going to be the most reliable approach. One other thing, you will also need to swap all the steering components (especially pitman arm and drag link). And don't toss anything for a while after making the swap. Just in case you need to go back and compare to make sure you got everything. __________________ http://home.comcast.net/~r.landrum/w...tos.html-.html '68 C-10 LWB, '98 Z-71 350 w/accessories (Serpentine), Edelbrock Performer, Edelbrock 1405 (600cfm) carb, GM HEI, CompCam Extreme 4x4 roller cam, Thorley Headers, Carter Electric Fuel Pump, Vintage Air, 700r4, 3.73, disc brakes and power steering upgrades.



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