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Old 12-19-2015, 06:59 PM   #76
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Re: What can be said about the 4-speed New Process NV833 overdrive manual transmissio

I am trying to get used to this tight Hurst shifter, as I like mine loose as a goose, not very racy of me, but I just like wiggling the thing when I'm sitting at a red light

so after putting the cover back on, I now was able to use the shifter to shift between 1st and 2nd gear, its kind of hard when your transmission is resting on the tailgate of your truck not bolted up to anything, but you can do it

now Reverse Gear - forget about it, I can shift it by holding the rod in my hand, but the only way I can get it into reverse with the shifter is by using a flat screw driver and wedge it under the control mechanism, more on that later

so decided to pop the dust plate off from the belly of the control mechanism, check out how filthy it was
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so what did it like up in there?

gross, but what did we expect after 40 years of never vacuuming, lol

second pic is after we hit it with a little brake cleaner and poked at it with a flat screw driver, it aint done being cleaned by any means, but at least ow we can begin to see what mechanisms lurk inside
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:21 PM   #78
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You can get the A833 3-OD truck shift rod and operating lever from Brewers for around $40.
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:26 PM   #79
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You can get the A833 3-OD truck shift rod and operating lever from Brewers for around $40.
Checking them out now, however the concensus is that the rods aint made by Hurst but GM, so all I am seeing on their site is Dodge parts, ie A Bodies, B Bodies, E Bodies, and their truck

which one did you have in mind?
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Your best choice would be the OEM GM parts. Call your buddy in Bakersfield to see if he has the rod...
If you can't find em the Dodge truck pieces will probably work. The likelihood of the flat rectangular A833 3-OD lever being different is not high.
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Your best choice would be the OEM GM parts. Call your buddy in Bakersfield to see if he has the rod...
LOL, trust me we searched the premises already, also it was his boys project so after they lost interest he sold the pieces to me, he never had the original 1982 truck this trans came off of, they were going to install it in their 1984 4x4 and convert it from automatic to manual, very ambitious task, that fizzled
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:57 PM   #82
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Looks nice, good luck with it. My '86 stepper came with one originally, and below are a couple of photos. I believe the shifter, boot, and knob to be original. Only thing I changed was the speedo cable seal, otherwise original. Have changed and upgraded the engine a little over time. No power shifting, however, works great once in gear and getting on it (400 HP/400Ft-LBS @ 5600RPM). The overdrive is very nice, with 3.73 gears. I like the 3.73 gears for first too, you can go slow in first if needed.
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Old 12-20-2015, 12:21 AM   #83
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Funny how the shift linkage on that transmission is extremely similar to the linkages on the NP203 transfer case. Even the NP203 transfer case got the "Hurst" embossed shift handle
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Old 12-21-2015, 09:56 AM   #84
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Just wanted to add to a very informative thread.

I've gotten mine cleaned up and found some numbers

I'm assuming that the stamped number are Vin numbers? Can someone advise?

And the pinkish red numbers on the top of the tranny, anyone else have these or know what they are or mean?
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Just wanted to add to a very informative thread.

I've gotten mine cleaned up and found some numbers

I'm assuming that the stamped number are Vin numbers? Can someone advise?

And the pinkish red numbers on the top of the tranny, anyone else have these or know what they are or mean?
Oh wow, which bolt hole is that lump with the numbers by, hard to tell with that extreme close up, would you mind posting a pic from further away so we all can get a better reference point, it is very interestinng though
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please hold...........
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Its circled in pink. Yes I picked pink and don't know why.........
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Gregski, when you pulled the side cover, did you replace the gasket with a gasket or did you use RTV?

I got her all cleaned up this weekend and Ill be cleaning the snot out of the shifter. Which is complete minus one shifter handle(knob).
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Its circled in pink. Yes I picked pink and don't know why.........
because you're a man's man, lol, and Pink is the new Black, oh wait that so doesn't work, ha ha
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Gregski, when you pulled the side cover, did you replace the gasket with a gasket or did you use RTV?

I got her all cleaned up this weekend and Ill be cleaning the snot out of the shifter. Which is complete minus one shifter handle(knob).
I put it back on with the old crusty gasket just to keep the moisture out of it, there is no fluid in it yet, and I am not done undressing it yet, I will probably take that cover off again for some reason before i am done getting the linkage to work

CAN YOU DO ME A SOLID, a huge favor, can you remove the side cover bolts one by one and tell me which one is that odd bolt out looking one, you will know when you see it, it is one of the 8 shorter ones, but it has a longer neck just below the head of the bolt before the threads start, I don't know which hole it came out of and it don't fit in right now, pretty please
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[quote=dragonball98312;7407171]Heres mine from an 81 c10 with a 250. Sadly no OEM shift ball





Great pics Dragon, but do you have a pic of the back side of your trans, the one opposite of the side with the side cover, there may be a VIN on that side by the tail shaft bolt holes
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I put it back on with the old crusty gasket just to keep the moisture out of it, there is no fluid in it yet, and I am not done undressing it yet, I will probably take that cover off again for some reason before i am done getting the linkage to work

CAN YOU DO ME A SOLID, a huge favor, can you remove the side cover bolts one by one and tell me which one is that odd bolt out looking one, you will know when you see it, it is one of the 8 shorter ones, but it has a longer neck just below the head of the bolt before the threads start, I don't know which hole it came out of and it don't fit in right now, pretty please
Hahahahahaahahahaahahahah, I read your post about that problem and made myself a "template" that im going to use to avoid the issue that you had. So yes, yes I will. Im going to try to get to it sometime of vacation so within the next week or so. Ill take pics.
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These are the two bolts that I found with smaller washers. If that helps.
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Just wanted to add to a very informative thread.

I've gotten mine cleaned up and found some numbers

I'm assuming that the stamped number are Vin numbers? Can someone advise?

And the pinkish red numbers on the top of the tranny, anyone else have these or know what they are or mean?
CB1134583 looks like a partial VIN:

C = 2wd
B = 1981 model year (A= 1980, B=81, C=82, etc)
1 = Oshawa Assembly plant code
134583 = sequential portion of VIN - Chevy nameplate

14030811 looks like a GM part number; 3260 might be a supplier unit number or lot information.

I don't recognize the "219" on top of the case, or can't see enough to get some context. Normally that would be the "broadcast code" corresponding to the 8 digit part number (you can see the "DN" or "DH" in Gregski's photos) or the chassis build sequence number (which would be hand written).

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CB1134583 looks like a partial VIN:

C = 2wd
B = 1981 model year (A= 1980, B=81, C=82, etc)
1 = Oshawa Assembly plant code
134583 = sequential portion of VIN - Chevy nameplate

14030811 looks like a GM part number; 3260 might be a supplier unit number or lot information.

I don't recognize the "219" on top of the case, or can't see enough to get some context. Normally that would be the "broadcast code" corresponding to the 8 digit part number (you can see the "DN" or "DH" in Gregski's photos) or the chassis build sequence number (which would be hand written).

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Thanks Keith. At least now I know what year it is. From what I can tell the numbers on top are "12199"
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These are the two bolts that I found with smaller washers. If that helps.
Thanks, I am aware of these two, I am talking about the third misfit, keep looking, ha ha
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The cover isn't bored larger on that hole?
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The cover isn't bored larger on that hole?
its hard to explain its not the width of the neck, they are all the same its the depth of that non threaded neck part, I will take some pics and show you
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Keith is right on with the partial VIN (required by law) and the part number.

The last 4 digits are Julian date of manufacture of the trans.
326 0 is 326th day of year '0', probably 1980
127 1 is 127th day of 1981

All GM trans' of that vintage are marked this way.
Now I'll have to look at mine to see when it was made.

I would expect Keiths' to have a high Julian '6' trans date.
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