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RockTonka · 12-16-2010, 07:54 PM

Thanks DW!

Kinda looks like the seat is going to work

, might of been room to make it an 1-1.5" wider and maybe an inch or so shorter. The base is sitting about an inch higher than the stock bench in the pics...might lower it a bit to bring the back lower relative to the window, but would like to keep the leg room increase too. Close enough to work either way though. Picked up some gut room too

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-16-2010, 09:34 PM

That looks like it fits pretty cool in there.

JohnC · 12-17-2010, 12:35 PM

Should be easy to adjust the height with your mounting system.

Looks good in there.

thirdstreettito · 12-17-2010, 01:16 PM

Damn man! This build is great! I cant believe I never noticed it! You're my hero! :P

RockTonka · 12-19-2010, 11:52 PM

Worked a bit on the seat over the weekend. Made a simple mount that utilized the stock holes, dropping the seat a just a bit under the rear window. Put a bit of lean to it, but still gained gut room and a higher seat...very comfortable for me. (6 ft. tall fat ass)

1985-GMC · 12-19-2010, 11:57 PM

Very nice!

bajabob · 12-20-2010, 12:50 AM

I am jealous, cuz you get to drive yours and I look at parts......... nice work on the seat.

JohnC · 12-20-2010, 09:45 AM

Seat and brackets turned out good.

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-20-2010, 05:58 PM

Man, those seat brackets turned out very nice!

RockTonka · 12-24-2010, 02:22 PM

Loving the seat, put a few trips down to Sonic and around town running errands with the wife and dog...almost makes ya feel like your driving around in a new truck sitting up high and proud

I hear ya Baja...I'm not looking forward to taking it down for the heart transplant. I want to have everything staged and ready before we start, hopefully it will go fast.

JohnC · 12-27-2010, 09:48 AM

Glad to hear the seat is working out how you hoped.

dnights · 12-28-2010, 11:15 AM

That seat looks great. I really like the build. Nothing better than seeing a big truck being brought back to life and the fact you guys get to enjoy it already.

RockTonka · 12-29-2010, 12:57 AM

Thanks for the comments, it keeps us motivated!

The wife was tired of seeing the back of the hood sitting high and set me up with some new hinges/springs for Christmas

1985-GMC · 12-29-2010, 02:08 AM

Nice!

OrrieG · 12-29-2010, 01:39 PM

OOOHHHH Shiney!!!! Gotta love Santa Wife!

JohnC · 12-30-2010, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrrieG

OOOHHHH Shiney!!!! Gotta love Santa Wife!

I thought the same thing.

dicer · 01-01-2011, 01:31 AM

What method did you use to remove and install the springs? Wood wedges? Special tool?

RockTonka · 01-01-2011, 02:47 AM

Nothing special, I bent a small semi-hook at the bottom of a tapered pry bar and cammed off the forward hinge mount bolt to pull the spring toward the firewall and hook/unhook, it's easier with the hood removed.

OrrieG · 01-01-2011, 02:39 PM

I have seen them spread with a floor jack and wrenchs inserted into the opened spring. Attach and pull the wrenchs. I always just used a brake spring tool or grabbed them with vice grips and strong armed it.

Woodbutcher · 01-04-2011, 02:33 AM

Yeah... vice grips and a quick tug seemed to be the fastest, easiest way for me, too. New hinges are nice.

RockTonka · 03-07-2011, 02:32 AM

Worked on the front axle a bit this weekend. Thought I'd have to get a new carrier because of worn spiders/cross pin and was thinking a detroit, but didn't want to spend the money for it. Fortunately, we were able to salvage parts from another old carrier, get a passable pattern on the old R&P, and reuse the open carrier.
So the front is together and ready, but I'm still struggling with pulling a NV4500/205 together on the cheap...looks like I'm going to bite the bullet and have one built.
I want to pull this into a buddy's shop within the next few weeks and start the tear down.

JohnC · 03-07-2011, 09:45 AM

Looks awesome!

Kim57 · 03-07-2011, 10:12 AM

That does look great.
Kim

'68 Pieces · 03-07-2011, 10:52 AM

that things awesome man, i love those old apaches, and thats something i have never seen before, and apache dump truck!!! love it

thirdstreettito · 03-31-2011, 12:54 AM

Updates?! Lovin it! I'd love to have a 4x4 Apache.

12-16-2010, 07:54 PM	#151
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks DW! Kinda looks like the seat is going to work, might of been room to make it an 1-1.5" wider and maybe an inch or so shorter. The base is sitting about an inch higher than the stock bench in the pics...might lower it a bit to bring the back lower relative to the window, but would like to keep the leg room increase too. Close enough to work either way though. Picked up some gut room too Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

12-16-2010, 09:34 PM	#152
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,135	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That looks like it fits pretty cool in there. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-17-2010, 12:35 PM	#153
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Should be easy to adjust the height with your mounting system. Looks good in there.

12-17-2010, 01:16 PM	#154
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Damn man! This build is great! I cant believe I never noticed it! You're my hero! :P __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

12-19-2010, 11:52 PM	#155
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Worked a bit on the seat over the weekend. Made a simple mount that utilized the stock holes, dropping the seat a just a bit under the rear window. Put a bit of lean to it, but still gained gut room and a higher seat...very comfortable for me. (6 ft. tall fat ass) Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

12-19-2010, 11:57 PM	#156
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Very nice! __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

12-20-2010, 12:50 AM	#157
bajabob Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ventura, Ca. Posts: 439	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I am jealous, cuz you get to drive yours and I look at parts......... nice work on the seat. __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=385404

12-20-2010, 09:45 AM	#158
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Seat and brackets turned out good.

12-20-2010, 05:58 PM	#159
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,135	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Man, those seat brackets turned out very nice! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-24-2010, 02:22 PM	#160
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Loving the seat, put a few trips down to Sonic and around town running errands with the wife and dog...almost makes ya feel like your driving around in a new truck sitting up high and proud I hear ya Baja...I'm not looking forward to taking it down for the heart transplant. I want to have everything staged and ready before we start, hopefully it will go fast. __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

12-27-2010, 09:48 AM	#161
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Glad to hear the seat is working out how you hoped.

12-28-2010, 11:15 AM	#162
dnights Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lawton, OK Posts: 51	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That seat looks great. I really like the build. Nothing better than seeing a big truck being brought back to life and the fact you guys get to enjoy it already. __________________ 1948 Chevy 3600 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=417178 1981 Chevy C10 Longbed

12-29-2010, 12:57 AM	#163
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks for the comments, it keeps us motivated! The wife was tired of seeing the back of the hood sitting high and set me up with some new hinges/springs for Christmas Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

12-29-2010, 02:08 AM	#164
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Nice! __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

12-29-2010, 01:39 PM	#165
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project OOOHHHH Shiney!!!! Gotta love Santa Wife! __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project



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01-01-2011, 01:31 AM	#167
dicer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 529	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project What method did you use to remove and install the springs? Wood wedges? Special tool?

01-01-2011, 02:47 AM	#168
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Nothing special, I bent a small semi-hook at the bottom of a tapered pry bar and cammed off the forward hinge mount bolt to pull the spring toward the firewall and hook/unhook, it's easier with the hood removed. __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

01-01-2011, 02:39 PM	#169
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I have seen them spread with a floor jack and wrenchs inserted into the opened spring. Attach and pull the wrenchs. I always just used a brake spring tool or grabbed them with vice grips and strong armed it. __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project Last edited by OrrieG; 01-01-2011 at 02:41 PM.

01-04-2011, 02:33 AM	#170
Woodbutcher Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Prince George, BC, CAN Posts: 60	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Yeah... vice grips and a quick tug seemed to be the fastest, easiest way for me, too. New hinges are nice. __________________ If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy... Red Green Keep your stick on the ice, Woodbutcher

03-07-2011, 02:32 AM	#171
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,510	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Worked on the front axle a bit this weekend. Thought I'd have to get a new carrier because of worn spiders/cross pin and was thinking a detroit, but didn't want to spend the money for it. Fortunately, we were able to salvage parts from another old carrier, get a passable pattern on the old R&P, and reuse the open carrier. So the front is together and ready, but I'm still struggling with pulling a NV4500/205 together on the cheap...looks like I'm going to bite the bullet and have one built. I want to pull this into a buddy's shop within the next few weeks and start the tear down. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

03-07-2011, 09:45 AM	#172
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Looks awesome!

03-07-2011, 10:12 AM	#173
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That does look great. Kim

03-07-2011, 10:52 AM	#174
'68 Pieces Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SW Michigan Posts: 55	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project that things awesome man, i love those old apaches, and thats something i have never seen before, and apache dump truck!!! love it

03-31-2011, 12:54 AM	#175
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Updates?! Lovin it! I'd love to have a 4x4 Apache. __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

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