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Old 06-15-2007, 12:41 AM   #101
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Re: 4x4 with air bags?

That is going to be one helluva truck, but won't ride worth a hoot! Sorry to say...
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:01 AM   #102
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That is going to be one helluva truck, but won't ride worth a hoot! Sorry to say...
Why do you say that

It's got to be better then stock (have you ever ridden in a stock 4x4 with leafs on all four corners? )
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:21 PM   #103
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That is going to be one helluva truck, but won't ride worth a hoot! Sorry to say...


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Why do you say that

It's got to be better then stock (have you ever ridden in a stock 4x4 with leafs on all four corners? )


Yea, I don't understand that statement either.

Airbags were designed for better ride...
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:28 PM   #104
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have you ever ridden in a truck with air bags/ride? Have you ever ridden in a truck that is lifted with big tires? Combine the two...You'll figure it out...
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:19 PM   #105
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have you ever ridden in a truck with air bags/ride? Have you ever ridden in a truck that is lifted with big tires? Combine the two...You'll figure it out...
so you've done this same build already then? do tell...

Semis have large bags and ride nice, bouncy truck tires ride nice too. 1 ton trucks with 50 leafs springs and road tires don't, has to be an improvement....

Nice build KRBracing96, any updates?
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:12 AM   #106
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Re: 4x4 with air bags?

An air-bag will absord the suspension bumps and jars much more softly and efficently then a set of leaf springs would any day.....Even if you ran a stiff sidewall tire...say like a low-profile.

Combine that with a spongy off-road tire, and your ride WILL BE better than a stock or lifted leaf-sprung truck.....add to that adjustibility, and load-control....you can't beat it !!

Good work, BTW...

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Old 08-28-2007, 05:21 PM   #107
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Re: 4x4 with air bags?

ahh, yes... reading intently. I'd love to do this to my k5...
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:54 PM   #108
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So is this thing finished?

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Old 08-29-2007, 03:03 PM   #109
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My favorite thread so far...can't wait for the big "all finished" payoff!
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:15 AM   #110
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Nice work love the turbo setup
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:03 AM   #111
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That is going to be one helluva truck, but won't ride worth a hoot! Sorry to say...
I have been watching this thread, and decided to chime in finally when this was posted. Airbags DO ride like crap if the spring rate is calculated wrong, and/or the bag placement not done correctly. If the spring rate is calculated correctly, the bag palcement right, and the mechanics/leverage all taken into account, the truck can be set up to ride however you want.

Too much bag rating+incorrect placement=poor ride.

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Old 11-07-2007, 01:02 PM   #112
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Ok, I haven't posted in a LONG time, sorry about that guys, but I have been working on it, a LOT! the bags are all done, the pluming is all done motor and trans is in for the final time and the only thing left is to go though the stock wiring harness and remover all the stuff I don't need and finshup the wiring. Also have to mount the seats and put the carpet kit in the interior. Then get her running and tuned (have EFILive for that ) and it will be a driver again. We are not gona work on the body for a while. Dad just wants to get it back so he can enjoy driving it for now and will do all the body work later since it will be mechanically 100% done.

As far as the ride, we can experiment with that. I put the bags on the bars in between the axle and the mount so they have LESS mechanical leverage on the suspension so they will ride better. I have put a lot of thought on the ride quality on this project and I think I've come up with a pretty descent setup. There is plenty of travel in the bags, so I can adjust them with spacers to get the air psi for a nice ride and the bag at the appropriate height Thats the nice thing about bags, you can adjust the spring rate by just changing the air PSI.

Let me know what ya think.





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Old 11-07-2007, 01:03 PM   #113
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Re: 4x4 with air bags?







Oh and a couple NEW drive shafts from Tom Woods Custom Drive Shafts



Shooting to have it running and drive it by the end of the WEEK!
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One of them turbo muffler things (someone on the internet told me it dosn't work, so it must be true )
An extra radiator for the air (don't know what that does )
A bumpy stick thingy from a Corvette
And on top of that my truck has a drug problem, it addicted to meth! Anyone know a good rehab center


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Old 11-07-2007, 02:04 PM   #114
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:53 PM   #115
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A little off topic, but were did you get the exhaust hangers? I have been looking for some like that and have come up empty handed so far. Wonderful job on the truck!
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:16 PM   #116
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A little off topic, but were did you get the exhaust hangers? I have been looking for some like that and have come up empty handed so far. Wonderful job on the truck!
Well, the rubber part were reused from the duels we had on the truck before that came from the local auto parts store (Big A at the time) and I made the new rods and flat bolt together parts to fit this exhause.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:27 PM   #117
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Beautiful! I love it!
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:34 PM   #118
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I think I want my motor back now Hell of a job you are doing
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:21 PM   #119
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I think I want my motor back now Hell of a job you are doing
Good, I cause I want one that might not be so warm I haven't ran the VIN on it yet...
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One of them turbo muffler things (someone on the internet told me it dosn't work, so it must be true )
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A bumpy stick thingy from a Corvette
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:47 PM   #120
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Good, I cause I want one that might not be so warm I haven't ran the VIN on it yet...
Don't worry they will get me before you, and I paid him in cash Can't wait till you take that thing for a ride.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:19 PM   #121
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Well, got her running today and she runs pretty good!. Still got some work to do to be able to drive it, gota put the carpet and seats in it still, but had it idling and revved it for about 30 minutes on the jack stands. Got all the fluids topped off, and the tranny works! I was skerd of it cuz I had to take all the guts out of it to get to 1 little stupid snap ring, so I could change out the out put shaft for the NP205 transfer case. I also put a TG shift kit in it when I did that and anytime I work on a tranny I'm AMAZED when it works after I get done

I have a couple small problems like a leak in the Vband coupler in the cross over pipe, but the problem that has me most confused is that the PCM won't turn on the fuel pump relay. The pin out diagram I have for it shows that pin 9 (grn w/white strip) on the C2 green conector is the primary fuel pump relay control, that I connected to the ground on the FP relay, and it doesn't work. The only code it's throwing is fuel pump relay control not working (go figure). Any ideas?


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Old 11-14-2007, 12:57 AM   #122
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sweeeeeet build!!! i'm really interested in how the bags will work out!! looks very good!!
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:38 AM   #123
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man this thing is sweet quick question for you why did you put the sway bar under the axle instead of on top. was it a clearence issue?
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:09 PM   #124
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I have no idea about your fuel pump relay problem I'm amazed you got the engine running,I never would have been able to sort that mess of wiring out I realy like the air suspension setup my father has been kicking that idea around for his 86 dually around forever. Thanks for the detailed pics keep us posted with progress. In my opinion you are a true craftsman.
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man this thing is sweet quick question for you why did you put the sway bar under the axle instead of on top. was it a clearence issue?
Ya, that's the only place it would fit, with the steering cross over, the panhard bar and the shocks, there just wasn't room. If I did it again, I would use a 2wd sway bar and mount it out board of the of the frame.


Thanks for all the props guys!

Got the relay problem fix, turns out that with the fuel pump relay, the PCM sent power to it to run it on, not like most of the rest of the things it controls where it provides the ground to activate it.
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