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djeCST · 01-10-2016, 05:22 PM

Is it just me or do those look like wood screws? The countersink heads seem out of place for the application and the threads look like they're intended for wood, not steel. Looks like hardware we might use in our cabinet shop....

**special-K** · 01-11-2016, 12:34 AM

I have noticed the screws we import, since we can't even make those, tend to break off at the head easily. I never had that happen with USA quality made hardware.

Modest_Man · 01-11-2016, 01:14 AM

The bracket on the work bench is "backwards" simply for a demonstration photo.

I spent $3.00 on hardware at Ace and less than a minute drilling the holes out to mount the mirrors. Easy, but I guess I feel that it shouldn't have been necessary when you buy an item that is supposed to include the necessary hardware.

snipescastle2 · 01-12-2016, 02:55 AM

I can agree with the whole "Quality Control" issue. We have a vendor who supplies our power plant's replacement bolts, nuts , washers, etc...
There are many "Knock off" companies making "branded" fasteners, that appear to be U.S. made, but far from it...China/Taiwan....
We actually had a few bolts fail on some equipment and had samples sent out for hardness testing/shear strength, etc...most were grade 5 or above, but sometimes crap slips through the cracks. Better to buy the hardware from a reputable source, for any or all pieces/parts.
I bought all new "ARP" fasteners for my engine build, although it set me back a couple hundred dollars, it's one less thing to worry about.
Good luck with your build!
Ben Smith

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 01-12-2016, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

I like Mane's truck parts descriptions on the supplied hardware .

http://www.manestruckparts.com/store...Category_ID=17

What the?

snipescastle2 · 01-12-2016, 08:20 AM

he just mentioned that in the description it says: "Throw away the Screws"
Ben

**special-K** · 01-12-2016, 08:21 AM

The screws should be oval head, not flat head. Totally Stainless is good source for quality fasteners. I'm lucky, they are up the road 45 minutes or so from me.

www.totallystainless.com

midniteblues · 01-12-2016, 08:36 AM

thats just rediculous they expect you too use those screws. reminds me of a lmc part.

we have a local place its called "the fastener place" super cheap good hardware...dang near anything you could need.

01-10-2016, 05:22 PM	#26
djeCST Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 68	Re: Am I missing something or am I just an idiot? Is it just me or do those look like wood screws? The countersink heads seem out of place for the application and the threads look like they're intended for wood, not steel. Looks like hardware we might use in our cabinet shop.... __________________ Dennis '70 CST/10 '55 Bel Air wagon

01-11-2016, 12:34 AM	#27
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: Am I missing something or am I just an idiot? I have noticed the screws we import, since we can't even make those, tend to break off at the head easily. I never had that happen with USA quality made hardware. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-11-2016, 01:14 AM	#28
Modest_Man Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Oregon Posts: 18	Re: Am I missing something or am I just an idiot? The bracket on the work bench is "backwards" simply for a demonstration photo. I spent $3.00 on hardware at Ace and less than a minute drilling the holes out to mount the mirrors. Easy, but I guess I feel that it shouldn't have been necessary when you buy an item that is supposed to include the necessary hardware.

01-12-2016, 02:55 AM	#29
snipescastle2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: WARRENSBURG,MISSOURI,64093 Posts: 1,518	Re: Am I missing something or am I just an idiot? I can agree with the whole "Quality Control" issue. We have a vendor who supplies our power plant's replacement bolts, nuts , washers, etc... There are many "Knock off" companies making "branded" fasteners, that appear to be U.S. made, but far from it...China/Taiwan.... We actually had a few bolts fail on some equipment and had samples sent out for hardness testing/shear strength, etc...most were grade 5 or above, but sometimes crap slips through the cracks. Better to buy the hardware from a reputable source, for any or all pieces/parts. I bought all new "ARP" fasteners for my engine build, although it set me back a couple hundred dollars, it's one less thing to worry about. Good luck with your build! Ben Smith Last edited by snipescastle2; 01-12-2016 at 02:58 AM. Reason: changes

01-12-2016, 08:20 AM	#31
snipescastle2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: WARRENSBURG,MISSOURI,64093 Posts: 1,518	Re: Am I missing something or am I just an idiot? he just mentioned that in the description it says: "Throw away the Screws" Ben

01-12-2016, 08:21 AM	#32
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: Am I missing something or am I just an idiot? The screws should be oval head, not flat head. Totally Stainless is good source for quality fasteners. I'm lucky, they are up the road 45 minutes or so from me. www.totallystainless.com __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-12-2016, 08:36 AM	#33
midniteblues Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: strausstown pa Posts: 3,394	Re: Am I missing something or am I just an idiot? thats just rediculous they expect you too use those screws. reminds me of a lmc part. we have a local place its called "the fastener place" super cheap good hardware...dang near anything you could need. __________________ 81 camaro 355 4/spd 342 posi my first love. 67 swb step 454/4spd ott 373 posi 4/7 drop. 2000 s10 zr2 little blue truck that never gets stuck. '74 heald super bronc vt8. tecumseh powered moon rover.



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