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Old 03-25-2018, 03:46 PM   #1
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C30 dually project goes patina

Some time ago, I found this C30 on a local craigs list type site. The truck was sold with the price including transport home from Texas, where it was at the time.
To begin with, I planned to use the frame to build a dually hot rod, and chuck the cab, or maybe transplant it on a cheap Scottsdale frame or something. To my surprise, I started liking the look of the little truck, and decided to try and get it running as is.

Here's a pic from the ad.

And another from when it came home.

It looked pretty sad, especially with two rear wheels removed to make it fit on the tow truck. Only three tires held any air.
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Old 03-25-2018, 04:00 PM   #2
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Re: C30 dually project goes patina

I noticed there was some writing on the doors, so I started sanding with fine sand paper.



This looked like fun, and this was when the idea to make this a patina project was born.
I sanded all the cab, and working on the other door, I noticed that I had been sanding the right hand side door too enthusiastically. I read somewhere that there are no real rules for a patina look, so I decided to try and repair my mistake.



A couple days after, when the OneShot paint was dry the new text was sanded to blend in with the rest of the cab.



At this time the wheels had been sand blasted and painted gloss black, and new tires mounted. New chrome wheel nuts were added, and I decided I wanted to do a well maintained but patinaed-look style.
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Old 03-25-2018, 08:31 PM   #3
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Re: C30 dually project goes patina

I like it. You've done great work, wheels, and the patina paint look very cool.
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Old 03-25-2018, 10:03 PM   #4
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Re: C30 dually project goes patina

That's cool. Have fun with it and enjoy.
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Old 03-26-2018, 03:55 AM   #5
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Re: C30 dually project goes patina

This is just the beginning of the project. it may look ok, but it's not driveable by a long shot.

I took it into the garage, after getting rid of the huge flat bed. It wouldn't start, as there was almost no compression in the engine, so I had to drag it in using the starter motor, so I guess it's a hybrid now...



The inside rockers and the outer edge of the floors were rusted, so some welding is due.
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Old 03-26-2018, 03:08 PM   #6
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Re: C30 dually project goes patina

Thank you Orange67. The cab was sprayed a satin clear, and the guy at the paintshop, who sold the clear was shocked when he saw what I was working on and exclamated:
"Oh damn, it's ugly!!!"
I guess the beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Thank you allchevy58. I certainly will have fun with it, when it's ready!

Okay, turning to the rust deletion work then. The worst rot was cut out, and pieces of fresh sheet metal was cut, bent and knocked into submission.



The inside of the rocker was repaired along with the edge of the floor



...and the top of the rocker was welded in...



...and ground



Same on the other side. The floors and rockers had about the same amount of rust on either side.
I found some standard rubber at the rubber shop, so new door seals will be cheap and cheerful, and look exactly like the originals.
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Old 03-26-2018, 06:39 PM   #7
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Re: C30 dually project goes patina

Nice and clean job sir! I cant even tell where you added the new metal by just looking at the final picture.
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Old 03-26-2018, 08:59 PM   #8
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Im in to see more .
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:48 PM   #9
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Yay!!! Another C30 saved. And it's almost as ugly as 'Anela...
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Old 03-27-2018, 01:26 AM   #10
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Glad you saved the truck. Lookin' good.
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Old 03-27-2018, 12:36 PM   #11
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Thank you cornerstone. I'm no expert, and it's nice when the result is nice to look at.
fLashed: be my guest. Hope I can provide some inspiration.
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Richard2112: Doing my best Not all will like it, but it's fun!

So, here goes:
The other side was done in the same manner, and is now ready, except from some suitable red and green shades to sand to look like it all belongs.



Then time for the frame. It's totally covered in ugly surface rust, but all solid. It must've stood in a wet or acid place for some time.



A mobile sandblaster came and did his magic. Amazingly enough, he used less than 200lbs of sand. I'd guess that's about what would fit in a wheelbarrow. Next summer it will be all gone. Very convinient.



The frame was sprayed with some primer, wheels added, and it was back into the shop again.

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Old 03-27-2018, 01:57 PM   #12
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Re: C30 dually project goes patina

Nice work.
I have a C30 also.
Mine has only a drivers side sunvisor and no center rear view mirror.
I noticed you have a rear view mirror.
Keep up the good work.👍
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Old 03-27-2018, 04:01 PM   #13
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Thank you, Getter-Done.
Honestly, I don't know if I have any sunvisors in my truck, I never gave it any thought.
The reason for this, of course, is that I never really drove it. The engine started and ran, so I drove it a hundred yards down to the road and back with no working brakes at all.
The last time I started the original engine, I happened to have one of the valve covers off, and noticed that one rocker didn't move at all. Holding it with my fingers while the engine ran, I could feel some remnants of a cam lobe.
So next up will be changing to another engine.
No use trying to do a simple and easy engine overhaul on an engine that has a whole cam lobe ground down in the lubricating oil. All bearing surfaces must be in a real bad condition.
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:39 PM   #14
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As the truck was back inside the shop, and the engine wasn't going to run decently without an overhaul anyway, it was yanked.
It looked read sad under a layer of sandblasting dust.



I removed the intake to take a look at the camshaft, and discovered that you don't see it in a chevy engine. Last time I was wrenching on an engine it was a Chrysler LA smallblock, and as far as I remember you are able to see the camshaft with the intake removed on those.



The amount of carbon and dirt in this engine is awful, so I was very happy to have a spare engine sitting in a corner in the shop.

In this pic the work with the "new" engine is under way. It's going to look just like the old 283, so the water pump, intake, valve covers, exhaust manifolds, fan and single groove crank pulley, along with the flywheel will be used.



The new engine in the foreground, and the old one on the floor behind it. The most visible difference is that the new engine has threaded holes in the end of the cylinder heads.
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:49 PM   #15
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That new engine, according to the numbers on it, is a 1984 305 out of a Caprice. It hadn't been in use for some time, and the freeze plugs looked bad, especially the screw in replacement ones. Good idea to change them, some were in bad shape, and someone had just left the old ones in the waterjacket, so there were a lot of plugs coming out of that block!
The waterjacket was flushed with the garden hose, and a LOT of rust and old engine parts came out



The flywheel and clutch assembly were mounted to the crank, as was a pilot bearing.



The 305 was just cleaned out and flushed. No special cleaning or such on the outside. As the starter was still attached to the block, a compression test was made, and its results was very good, all cylinders had between 160 and 180 psi, which is remarkably even for an old engine that hasn't been run in years.
Also all pushrods were rotating as the engine was cranked, which is a good sign, telling us that the camshaft and lifters are in good condition.
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:55 PM   #16
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Here's a "before" pic of the 1984 engine. To be completely honest it looks very uninspiring like this.



The intake and exhaust manifold looked awful, and once removed they were replaced with better looking parts off the old 283.



It looks like a lot more fun with the old parts.The valve covers with no breathers of oil fillers have to be used with an old style intake.
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Old 03-30-2018, 05:15 PM   #17
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For some reason I think a flywheel and clutch assembly looks much cooler than the usual flexplate. New clutch in this pic.



Before the engine was mounted in the truck, some other details had to be attended to.
The heater core was missing a tube, as illustrated in this pic:



I happened to have a heater core off a Caprice, and it was the exact same size as t he original truck one. The old holes had to be plugged, and new ones drilled, but it was pretty straight forward, and cheap above all.

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Old 04-01-2018, 03:33 PM   #18
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Continuing with the first real patina work, namely repairing the battery shelf, without making it obvious it's repaired.
It looked pretty bad to start with:



A replacement part was made out of 1mm thick cold rolled sheet metal, and welded in. After some grinding it was then painted with a couple browns, and some flat black. The threads were chased with a tap, so it was easy to mount, and the battery can be secured easily too.

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this thing is awesome, following along
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Old 04-04-2018, 03:08 AM   #20
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Thank you aboesec10, it's nice to get some encouragement

Continuing with some unwanted patina here. The bore in the master brake cylinder was so rusted, that it needed to be replaced. A style decision had to be made at this point, in that almost all functioning mechanics has to be new or redone. So, ok, the master cylinder and other new stuff may as well look new then.



Being over here in northern Europe, it's not just to walk into the nearest Napa or O'Reilleys to buy a new 1967 C30 mastercylinder (we have neither: No Napa, no O'Reilleys, nor any C30 mastercylinders), so I had to make do with a 1967 Biscayne one, that happened to have the same bore and stroke, and also was for a drum/drum setup. After purchasing a tube bender, pretty bends could be done easily.



A new repop inner fender arrived from the US, so when that was bolted into its new home, the engine bay's pretty much ready for the engine.

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Old 04-05-2018, 03:13 PM   #21
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Time to get the engine in.
I had a good friend helping me with the engine and hoist. If the blue oval disturbes you, he's sold his Ford, and is wrenching on a chevy now

It took a bit more fiddling than usually with an automatic, to get the engine to fit the manual transmission, as one has to get the splines and pilot bearing in line, but it was soon in.



With a new carburetor mounted to the intake, and an old air cleaner on the top, the engine doesn't much look like it comes out of a 1984 Caprice anymore.


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Among all the small stuff to get done was the alternator mount. It had been mounted to the driver's side exhaust manifold, but the manifold had cracked at the alt mount, so something had to be done about it.
Like this:



1. The alternator had been bolted to the drivers' side exhaust manifold. Here about 5/8" is cut off the manifold to make room for a new mount with a nut welded in (arrow).

2. Putting the tapped holes in the newer heads to use, the new alt mount was made out of about 3/16" thick sheet metal.

3. Trial mounted to the head and exhaust manifold (one usable threaded hole remained in the manifold).

4. New mount painted and bolted to the head and exhaust with four bolts.
The long bolt is where the alternator goes.

5. The alternator mounted to its new mount. The front strap still missing in this pic.

This new homebrewed part really should have some patina treatment to fit in, but it's flat black for now.
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The blue air cleaner a couple posts earlier is reworked for modern paper air filters. The welding and grinding caused it to look unsettlingly rebuilt, but a few squirts of black, beige, two browns and another black got the patina started. Dousing it with sand and dirt and scuffing it with a rag while the paint still wasn't completely dry, made it look suitably old and grimy. The rust on the very top of the cleaner is real original rust. ( I thought I'd never be proud to say that *grins*)



The color is better too, it doesn't look too much out of place now.
A piece of 3" exhaust pipe happened to fit the Rochester 2G nicely, and was used as a base for the air filter rebuild. Two small paper filters off a Tri-Power setup was used.
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Great progress.
Using the original points distributor really makes it 👍
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Sir, you have awesome skills. I'm impressed, and very cool truck!
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