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Old 04-04-2018, 11:02 PM   #176
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Re: 1941 1/2 ton project Hannah

got some transfer paper and stuck the chevrolet stickers on the smoothie caps.

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started working on the running board mod. the fender needed to move back 2" and that helped but doing the cuts in 3d on the multiple stair steps requires chipping away at it. I got within about an inch of the right spot tonight, I made a pattern of the fender and transferred it. one thing is, these are 37-38 fenders so they are slightly narrower than the 41-46, so I will have to fab a nice end for the running board.

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maybe some more tomorrow.
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:19 AM   #177
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Re: 1941 1/2 ton project Hannah

I haven't been commenting, but I have been watching!

I like how the baby moons turned out, and the running boards are coming along nicely. I wish they made wide whites in the rear size i'm running, in a true street radial.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:49 PM   #178
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hey man thanks! I dont mind watchers, I love doing this stuff and posting about it to maybe help guys out. most guys who have done s10 swaps on these trucks dont really share info for whatever reason. it should be open source, like how skymangs did his 47-53 stuff. if I can have a problem and post about it maybe it helps someone!

I was having trouble with my taped on bolts so I chewed out the bedside for the tub, that way I could put a bolt through and get a nut on it. I cleaned it up with a grinder after this picture.

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went much better that way, I cut a little more than I needed (pray twice cut once!). what actually happened is I thought the 37-38 fenders had the same mounting pattern because they were on a 41 when I bought it, so I redrilled the fender holes 2" further back. when I was trying to get the running boards cut enough I measured the distance away I was and transferred to to the running board. but since the 37-38 is slightly smaller mounting arc I missed it by just a scant 1/4 inch in the corner. you can see my new hole just forward of the fender, and the small gap in the corner. I will fix both. otherwise looks good enough to me!

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passenger side tomorrow, then back to the interior. I ordered a fan switch, everyone seems to go with the 185 on 175 off, but the thermostat in these trucks is a 185 stock and most run a 190. so I ordered a 200 on 185 off, I figure it will work better not turning on all the time and cycling the thermostat. if I remember the gauge runs right under 200 in the middle.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:14 PM   #179
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learning from the drivers side I was able to knock out the passenger side pretty quickly.

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I thought you might like to see what kind of room I have to work with on the right side. :/

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not for much longer though! oh and I seemingly and impossibly misplaced my sharpie in the 4 cubic feet I was working in. I borrowed a green one from my wife and said "I lost the one I was working with". she was understandably concerned about me losing hers too, until I explained that you FIND the first one by USING the second one and paying attention to where you lay it down.

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I was dying to roll it out and get an overall, but it was raining, so here is the bonus outside picture taken inside.

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I laid in the harnesses next since I couldnt weld outside.

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I was able to get the entire engine harness and pcm inside the dash, which I was worried about because there isnt a lot of room for it under the hood. I need to put the AC box in next, then its dash and gauges.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:44 PM   #180
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Re: 1941 1/2 ton project Hannah

Looking good sir! I did the full build in my Z28 in one garage bay...so I understand the space confinement. You'll love the new shop!
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:34 PM   #181
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yeah I am pretty over it. although I started out doing it all in the driveway so today instead of griping about space I cleaned the space. someone actually ordered a spring day and I partook with great excitement.

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here is something that bothered me on the last one, and bothers me again on this one. you can see plainly that the front clip is level and square and evenly mounted, look for a clue on the frame rails (the spacing is the same) but look at the flare of the passenger fender compared to the drivers. some of it is that the drivers fender was wiped liberally with a fence post somewhere in history but I have yanked most of it back. there is literally 2-3" more space wheelarch-to-tire in the passenger front fender. the last 41 was the same and I thought maybe I just mounted it crooked.

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ahhh so clean again. and some of the tools are actually in the toolbox too.

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so the day wasnt a complete loss I did the lower rad mounts. need some padding and to install the hoses but that went faster than I thought. got my temp switch in the mail 3 days early too woop woop. need a tap, the hole in the sensor dealie is 1/8 and the switch is 3/8 so I need add at least 2 more 1/8 holes

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Old 04-10-2018, 03:05 AM   #182
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Moving right along! Yes, a little shop picking up always is nice.
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Old 04-10-2018, 07:46 PM   #183
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You getting there.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:40 PM   #184
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thanks!

picked up some neoprene at the yard store for the lower mounts but they did not have a tap (the drawer was EMPTY, unheard of at the yard store), so once again I had to go to ace. $^&%^ $18 (all taps are $3 at the yard). and the dril bit size was a princely 37/64ths. another $19. uhh, not for me. I used a 9/16 and knew the aluminum would be my friend.

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got the rad mounts done too. the little clip looking parts with the screws just hold the kydex I use as an air director.

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I cut up the speedway rad mounts to make them, in the future I will just make my own. I spent a while laying out the rad hoses, looks like the stock s10 hoses will work perfectly, but the bottom outlet is a little big for the stock hose so I need to grease it up or get a larger hose.



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got the rad in and the hoses lined out. not perfect yet but good enough! I was grunting and fighting trying to get the hoses on, the rad inlet and outlet were just slightly too large and I couldnt get the last edge up over the lip. my wife heard my stream of obscenities and said "hmm try some coconut oil". it made me laugh out loud, until her terse expression made me realize she wasnt joking. so I humored her and wiped a little coconut oil on the hose, and it slipped on almost without effort. lesson learned.

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after staring at the drivers door pranged open all week, I decided to take it back off and twist on the hinges. but while I was looking for my punch I realized it wouldnt solve anything, the sheetmetal was bent, not the hinges, so bending the hinge would compound the problem. my father in law was a ride noise vibration and harshness guy at the chevy dealer for 22 years and taught me a trick about doors that didnt seal to the weatherstrip and had wind noise on the highway, he would wrap an old tire in a blanket and put it in the door jamb and push around on the window surround, just a little, till the surround hit the weatherstrip when the door was closed (and the tire wasnt there). I figured since it was over-opened, I could use his trick and over-close it.

worked good! needs to come up a little in the back and the job will be done

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started to run the light harness under the hood and hit a snag, the bulbs dont fit the 41 housings. the last one I did had 46 housings and fit, but these are too small. I can either put the small park light in there and the big turn up top, or find a small LED turn for inside the glass. I am leaning toward the second, I want the little cab lights to be BARELY on, 5w is fine, not a turn signal bulb.

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Old 04-15-2018, 09:42 PM   #185
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finished laying in the harnesses today, on the last 41 I drilled holes for the fenders which was a pain in the tuchus because I needed to pare the individual fender harness from its plugs to pass through. on ths truck I decided to use the wiring pass through holes behind the rad support.

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while I was doing that I noticed a plug at the end of the harness I couldnt account for, a couple actually. turns out it was the last ECM connector I had forgotten.

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so I ran it to the big pass through I had created (and luckily had not sealed). It is very nice to just plug stuff in when you lay it out in the same rough configuration.

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then I mounted the vintage air system. after doing the last one this was a very fast operation.

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everything is hooked up now (except the lights front and rear) so tomorrow I will get the bed off for finish welding and maybe try a start while its outside.
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I fixed the hinge I drilled out, my tap collection keeps growing, now I have a 3/8 18 :/

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pushed it out and hooked up the last of the connectors. look how nice the door shuts! except the window arms hit the inside handle arm.

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I was in such a hurry I forgot until the last second it didnt have any oil in it, I had peeled the reminder off the air cleaner when I painted it. cranked it with the fuel pump relay out then put it back in, and... no fuel pump. click for vid, this is with a little gas in the tbi.

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good oil pressure, voltage at the pump connector, so its the pump. the pump of a working running driving truck taken apart in october. I suppose you think hubris is funny. well wait I am not done.

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I got the bed on the dolly and pushed in, love that dolly.

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started to finish up the bed weld since I didnt feel like running for a pump, on the second tack the wire fused to the tip. my last tip. I invented a few words after that.

pump tomorrow! I liked what I heard of the smithys, for that second they were barking.
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Old 04-18-2018, 02:32 PM   #187
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its alive!

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has a weak cylinder, probably a fouled plug from sitting. and the gas is old and stinky, and all the gauges quit. so I have stuff to do. like I can go to home depot for the third time in two days and see if I can forget the speaker wire again. I need it to hook up the little cab lights to the harness out by the headlight.
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Congrat’s on the start! No doubt you will have it hitting on all cylinders soon.
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thanks doug, soon was today!

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kind of a funny story, the last TBI 4.3 I did needed a thorough cleaning so I got some berrymans and went to town. I forgot berrymans doesnt evaporate though, at least not very quickly, so I actually had to pull the plugs and crank out all the excess. which was ok because I was putting new plugs in anyway, when I pulled number 3 the carb cleaner was all over the plug and clued me in that I should probably purge the cylinders.

I also installed a new cap and rotor and like I thought they were in poor shape, carbon everywhere and rust on the rotor tip. when I put the rotor on I noticed how easy it was to get it slightly crooked, so I checked the cap and you can see (maybe, the bottom ones in the picture have a groove worn in them) the rotor made lots of collisions with the cap terminals because the PO had it on crooked. 'cest la vie!

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found my gauge problem I think

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probably from the first start, I had the plug in the gauges upside down for a second. easy enough to fix.

got the bed all welded up too. we arent tilting at perfection, but it looks appropriate to me. this bed I found upside down in the side yard of a 200 year old farm, it has a lot of farmer inspired repairs, including one that I wish I had noticed earlier. the drivers rear corner is outboard of place about an inch. maybe later, I still need to do the rear floor mount and then wood bed.

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got all the engine wiring tucked away, and went to install the fan. I want to know what kind of clodpated citified moron orders a radiator fan combo (sold together as a combo!) and doesnt check the fit until he is ready to install?

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it doesnt fit. its about an inch too big. probably that inch I saved ordering a 21x19 instead of a 22x19. I feel like a real dumb ****, but in a real "ha ha" kind of way.

should have more to show tomorrow.
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joedoh you are killing it! we have nice weather up here today and tomorrow. looks like rain for the weekend. seems like every time i get the pickup ready for something it rains.

i bet that 4.3l sounds nice and deep with the "smitty's". i'm going to add in an h-pipe to mine at some point to get rid of the top end blatty noise.
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you are right for sure, a crossover pipe would help, it sounds AMAZING at idle and revving but when you let of the gas its not crackly like I like, its like a PAAAAWWWWWWW and then one or two pops.

by the way the first picture is a video, you can hear the idle!

I have the floor out still and the pipes are right there.. hmmmm

I saw the rain coming saturday, I will be inside installing the glass that day. hope to get more done tomorrow, like drilling the rest of the holes for the fenders and maybe even getting the hood on and headlights/turn signals in.
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Just read the whole thread you are doing a great job.
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[clodpated citified moron]...hahaha....ive heard of those...just never seen one...kinda like bigfoot...hahahaha...
its coming together nicely though...wont be long and youll be ready for the next build....
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[clodpated citified moron]...hahaha....ive heard of those...just never seen one...kinda like bigfoot...hahahaha...
its coming together nicely though...wont be long and youll be ready for the next build....
get this, they told me to pound sand. apparently the fan is like a plant and if you dont use it in 2 months it grows larger and you lose all right to complain about it. Its ok, I have a smaller bosch fan that I know will move enough air.

I fixed the widow mechanism, now it goes up AND down and doesnt get stuck on the door latch mechanism any more.
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picked these LED up local after a fruitful search for something small enough to fit. these should work great

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this is looking straight down the bedside, the tailgate is to the right, you can see the wag the bedside has away from the floor that I had cut square.

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this picture shows the real problem, its welded up in the wrong place. I tried cutting it loose but no luck yet, its farmer poop welded six different ways. need a time machine to put it in the right spot.

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need to straighten the fenders too. these things are like baby goats, always falling over for no reason at all. that bend in the bottom, I put the fender on a cart and a minute later it fell off all by itself.

got the fenders mounted solid though, need the pieces welded to the running boards and the bed is ready to go back on.

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I have been prejudiced against black cats since my old neighbors cat would camp out on our porch and take meaningful swipes at us just trying to leave the house. he was a real butthole. but mabel (maybee) is just the nicest cat I have ever seen, serious claws but never uses them on us, ever, she is gentle and sweet. morris is a big ol tank, definitely maine coon in him.

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enough about the cats. when I got the hood for this truck it was in two pieces, the wind had bent it and ripped it loose. I straightened it out and welded the hinge back on the ripped side, but I just could not get it to fit right.

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but I have a deep bench, and spares to spare. this one almost fell on, once I got the hinges and latches all lubed up.

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its even the right color... sort of.

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I will paint the smooth parts and sand it back. it will look right.

I did the passenger door today too, the inside handle rod was in the bottom of the door and rusty, it broke the first time I used it. but the latch took grease and did not require a rebuild so potato potatto.

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I had to grab a window from the farm team, I was planning to leave the cracked one but there was a piece missing.

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I mentioned it before in another thread but the days of me grunting big stuff around with the (lack of) help from the fairer sex are over and done with. I bring this home in a week!

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its a smooth tire so just driveway use right now, but I will put down a packed limestone path to the back forty (yards) and that will allow me almost unlimited mischief! if my brother in law is reading, thanks again!
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Old Today, 03:30 AM   #196
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Re: 1941 1/2 ton project Hannah

As usual great work, forklift good on ya.

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Re: 1941 1/2 ton project Hannah

Yep, the second hood fit way better. Good call.

And the fork lift, handy and fun all at the same time!
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