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landon4421 · 05-05-2003, 05:03 PM

I went to look at a 1972 GMC camper special today. The guy wants $3000.00 for the truck. I was wondering if this price was too high. Here's what I found, that was wrong.

The truck is rough as far as the paint goes, needs lots of work.

The cab is from a 2wd chevy with a 2" body lift. and a whole cut for the 4x4 shifter. It is a A/C cab.

The transmission dose not work. <auto>

It has a 350 small block, 205 t-case.

There were a number of other things wrong with this truck, no parking brake, wireing harness to rear lights is jacked, outer A/C box is gone, the interior is decent, seat is tore ect.

I was just wondering what you guys thought. I am going to offer him like $1000.00. but even then I still feel it is too much, what do you think? Landon

EDIT : all most for got it has all the normal rust, in the normal areas, but it is not all that bad.

71-longbed · 05-05-2003, 05:05 PM

1000 seems reasonable ....

id pay 3,000 for a decent body and a truck i could actually drive away ...

landon4421 · 05-05-2003, 05:10 PM

thanks for the input, 71-longbed

I would give him close to $3000, if I could drive it away but like I said the tranny is broke. OH wait I can drive it home in reverse.

My wife said I probally should not buy it but, another truck, is another truck.

The truck looks to peiced togeather, via someone who dose not know much about them.

jays68yak · 05-05-2003, 05:17 PM

I would say 1000 seems far. If someone wants to sell a turd then they better make sure they sell it to a blind person.

landon4421 · 05-05-2003, 05:20 PM

jays68yak, thanks for the input :p

Quote:

If someone wants to sell a turd then they better make sure they sell it to a blind person.

I think I scared the father because I know so much about these trucks, but I know that I still am learning.

bouncytruck · 05-05-2003, 05:25 PM

There was a 70 K20 for sale next to my office for $4500. The guy drove it everyday, had 33" tires, 4" lift, the engine and tranny were very functional and the body was in excellent condition. For $3000, I would expect either a fully funtinoal truck with some minor rust/body issues or some mechanical issues with a near perfect body. With the tranny dead, you can't even test drive it to see what other problems it may have, like ball joints, u-joints, steering, etc. At $1000, it might be worth it.

**nightmare** · 05-05-2003, 05:27 PM

i wouldn't pay anywhere near $3000 for it. i paid $1000 for my 69 GMC, but it was driveable. if it's going to be a parts truck, then offer what you think it's worth. if it is going to be a driver, then i'd steer clear of it. just my opinion

landon4421 · 05-05-2003, 05:29 PM

thanks bouncytruck, I also agree with you. I have a new tranny at home that came out of my 72 that I am restoring, but to put it in and find out something else is dead would piss me off. especially at $3000.

landon4421 · 05-05-2003, 05:32 PM

nightmare, I was looking to buy it to drive while I got my 72 restored. It needs some TLC to be a daily driver, but not much. thanks for the input. Landon

MORE OPINIONS ??

chaptr2 · 05-05-2003, 05:53 PM

Sorry your description just made me think that the guy thinks his crap is made of gold or something. Save your money and buy somthing else that is worth it. Forget that guy, you don't want to buy his "Project" that he can't finish. You will find a much better deal if you just keep your eyes open.

I know Cleatussnow bought a really nice 69 4x4 for $4500/$5000 or somehting along those lines in California. So deal are made to be had, just keep your eyes open.

Chap

bpmcgee · 05-05-2003, 06:10 PM

Landon,

From the sound of it, as a restoration project it would be expensive to fix all of his mistakes.

From a daily driver perspective, you just hope that he didn't cobble something up like he cobbled up the cab.

Also, are you sure that your 2wd transmission will mate up the transfer case?

I'm not saying that you shouldn't buy it -- I'm just saying that I'd take these factors into account with the offer. By the same token, he's unlikely to take $1K if he's asking $3k.

I certainly would take the advice of the others here and not spend much more than $1k on it.

Let us know how it turns out!

Brian

landon4421 · 05-05-2003, 07:05 PM

chaptr2, thanks for the advice. I talked only with his father and looked at the truck.

bpmcgee, I have a 4x4 tranny. I am not planing to spend anymore than $1000.00 for the truck. I looked at the truck very close and I could list off a lot of factors why I would not pay $3000.00 for it.

I was only wanting help to see if I was wrong in offering him $1000.00.

thanks for all the input guys, Landon

dion · 05-05-2003, 07:23 PM

3K is too much for sure. I've see trucks in the Truck Trader all the time for half that much that you could drive away.

cleatussnow · 05-05-2003, 08:03 PM

Chap,

Thanks, for posting the pic, I only paid 4000 for the truck and it had a 6" lift and a bad arse, 454 that eats mustangs, so 3k is very high, I would only give him about 750-1000 if he does not take it walk, I have found a couple of nice trucks in this area just by driving and scouting.

Cleatus

dinnut · 05-05-2003, 08:13 PM

i paid 800 for my 72 longbed. cab has a lot of rust but we drove it away with a 350/th350 combo... check out my site to see it.

landon4421 · 05-06-2003, 12:52 AM

he would not budge from $2500.00, but after thinking about what I saw, it would have turned out to be a lot of work. thanks for all the input and help saving my cash. Landon

c-tenkid · 05-06-2003, 02:47 AM

I know it's not 4wd.

I paid 1650 for my 69 a couple months ago.

Tynee · 05-06-2003, 10:10 AM

Sounds like a good decision, Landon. Too bad you aren't closer, I know of a '68 that could pay for itself in rust-free sheet metal when you're done driving it.

bouncytruck · 05-06-2003, 11:27 AM

You'll find something better than that. They pop up quite often around here. Usually in the $3000-$5000 range for something decent. Good luck and let us know if you find something else.

jays68yak · 05-06-2003, 11:40 AM

There are deals out there.

I paid $1500 for my suburban a few months back

Then there are people who think they can get a lot more then its worth. There is a guy next to my buddies new house that is asking $5000 for a 68 SWB with a 327. The thing needs a total restore. It could be used as a driver but it would need a bit of work.

Glad to see you saved your money and did waste it on someone elses junk. Althought it does suck that the truck wont have a good home.

Pic of my suburban:

**stllookn** · 05-06-2003, 01:08 PM

mikep found a 1969 stepside daily driver with a I-6 and speed for $500. I passed on it but CARS4567 picked it up and drove it home! I could not get excited about another short stepside even at $500. THERE ARE LOTS OF GOOD DEALS OUT THERE! Don't get too excited about just another truck unless you really need the parts NOW! I am taking the minimalist approach to my rodstoration at this point so this is just my 0.02 rant...LOL!

GloryHound · 05-06-2003, 01:59 PM

Well I know it is a 4X4 but just to give you a hint I bought a 69 GMC Fleetside half ton and drove it home for 500.00 and it passed inspection. The body is solid metal but has some nice dents in it. Then just last weekend I bought a 72 GMC 1 ton dually for 450.00 The engine sounded like it was ready to throw a rod and the body is lookin rough, but I got a used 305 for 125.00 and dropped it in on sunday and then drove the thing 250 miles home down the PA turn pike All said and done to get the 72 and get it running it cost me 1200.00. Now I need to find a rear shackle, weld some floor pans in and it will make a great every day driver as long as I'm not going for fuel mileage.

05-05-2003, 05:03 PM	#1
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	HELP with appraisal before 5 pm pacific I went to look at a 1972 GMC camper special today. The guy wants $3000.00 for the truck. I was wondering if this price was too high. Here's what I found, that was wrong. The truck is rough as far as the paint goes, needs lots of work. The cab is from a 2wd chevy with a 2" body lift. and a whole cut for the 4x4 shifter. It is a A/C cab. The transmission dose not work. <auto> It has a 350 small block, 205 t-case. There were a number of other things wrong with this truck, no parking brake, wireing harness to rear lights is jacked, outer A/C box is gone, the interior is decent, seat is tore ect. I was just wondering what you guys thought. I am going to offer him like $1000.00. but even then I still feel it is too much, what do you think? Landon EDIT : all most for got it has all the normal rust, in the normal areas, but it is not all that bad. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter"

05-05-2003, 05:05 PM	#2
71-longbed Its Magically Delicious Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 2,398	1000 seems reasonable .... id pay 3,000 for a decent body and a truck i could actually drive away ... __________________ 71 C10 LWB 350sbc -TH350 12 bolt 3.42 Posi Of all my favorite things to do, The utmost is to have a brew. My love grows for my foamy friend, with each thirst-quenching elbow bend. Beer so frosty, smooth, and cold it's paradise pure liquid gold. Yes beer means many things to me that's all for now cus I gotta pee.

05-05-2003, 05:10 PM	#3
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	thanks for the input, 71-longbed I would give him close to $3000, if I could drive it away but like I said the tranny is broke. OH wait I can drive it home in reverse. My wife said I probally should not buy it but, another truck, is another truck. The truck looks to peiced togeather, via someone who dose not know much about them. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter"

05-05-2003, 05:17 PM	#4
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	I would say 1000 seems far. If someone wants to sell a turd then they better make sure they sell it to a blind person. __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

05-05-2003, 05:25 PM	#6
bouncytruck SKINNY TIRES RULE! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 11,049	There was a 70 K20 for sale next to my office for $4500. The guy drove it everyday, had 33" tires, 4" lift, the engine and tranny were very functional and the body was in excellent condition. For $3000, I would expect either a fully funtinoal truck with some minor rust/body issues or some mechanical issues with a near perfect body. With the tranny dead, you can't even test drive it to see what other problems it may have, like ball joints, u-joints, steering, etc. At $1000, it might be worth it. __________________ bouncytruck 1972 K5 The Hauler 1994 K1500 Suburban The Daily2010 Kia Soul Wife's Ride2014 Fiat 500L

05-05-2003, 05:29 PM	#8
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	thanks bouncytruck, I also agree with you. I have a new tranny at home that came out of my 72 that I am restoring, but to put it in and find out something else is dead would piss me off. especially at $3000. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter" Last edited by landon4421; 05-05-2003 at 05:33 PM.

05-05-2003, 05:32 PM	#9
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	nightmare, I was looking to buy it to drive while I got my 72 restored. It needs some TLC to be a daily driver, but not much. thanks for the input. Landon MORE OPINIONS ?? __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter" Last edited by landon4421; 05-05-2003 at 05:39 PM.

05-05-2003, 05:53 PM	#10
chaptr2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Olalla, WA Posts: 705	Sorry your description just made me think that the guy thinks his crap is made of gold or something. Save your money and buy somthing else that is worth it. Forget that guy, you don't want to buy his "Project" that he can't finish. You will find a much better deal if you just keep your eyes open. I know Cleatussnow bought a really nice 69 4x4 for $4500/$5000 or somehting along those lines in California. So deal are made to be had, just keep your eyes open. Chap Attached Images __________________ This is only my opinion and it is subject to change. 70 GMC Short box stepside Blown 388 Stroker 72 K/5 Blazer 350/SM465/205

05-05-2003, 06:10 PM	#11
bpmcgee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 2,181	Landon, From the sound of it, as a restoration project it would be expensive to fix all of his mistakes. From a daily driver perspective, you just hope that he didn't cobble something up like he cobbled up the cab. Also, are you sure that your 2wd transmission will mate up the transfer case? I'm not saying that you shouldn't buy it -- I'm just saying that I'd take these factors into account with the offer. By the same token, he's unlikely to take $1K if he's asking $3k. I certainly would take the advice of the others here and not spend much more than $1k on it. Let us know how it turns out! Brian

05-05-2003, 07:05 PM	#12
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	chaptr2, thanks for the advice. I talked only with his father and looked at the truck. bpmcgee, I have a 4x4 tranny. I am not planing to spend anymore than $1000.00 for the truck. I looked at the truck very close and I could list off a lot of factors why I would not pay $3000.00 for it. I was only wanting help to see if I was wrong in offering him $1000.00. thanks for all the input guys, Landon __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter"

05-05-2003, 07:23 PM	#13
dion 72 Cheyenne Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,086	3K is too much for sure. I've see trucks in the Truck Trader all the time for half that much that you could drive away. __________________ Burnout Idle 1972Cheyenne 1966/67Stouts

05-05-2003, 08:03 PM	#14
cleatussnow Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 162	Chap, Thanks, for posting the pic, I only paid 4000 for the truck and it had a 6" lift and a bad arse, 454 that eats mustangs, so 3k is very high, I would only give him about 750-1000 if he does not take it walk, I have found a couple of nice trucks in this area just by driving and scouting. Cleatus __________________ "What we are dealin' with here is a complete lack of respect for the law...." Beuford T. Justice

05-05-2003, 08:13 PM	#15
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	i paid 800 for my 72 longbed. cab has a lot of rust but we drove it away with a 350/th350 combo... check out my site to see it. __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9"

05-06-2003, 12:52 AM	#16
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	he would not budge from $2500.00, but after thinking about what I saw, it would have turned out to be a lot of work. thanks for all the input and help saving my cash. Landon __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter"

05-06-2003, 02:47 AM	#17
c-tenkid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Festus mo Posts: 370	I know it's not 4wd. I paid 1650 for my 69 a couple months ago. Attached Images __________________ 69 c-10 lwb,Converted to 4x4,dana 44f,12blt,4 inch lift,vortec headed 355,th350/np203 34x10.50x15 swamper tsl's



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05-06-2003, 10:10 AM	#18
Tynee I miss this truck. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lexington, KY U.S.A. Posts: 2,863	Sounds like a good decision, Landon. Too bad you aren't closer, I know of a '68 that could pay for itself in rust-free sheet metal when you're done driving it. __________________ '07 GMC Acadia SLT. Sweet ride. '08 Crew Cab Z-71 short bed. Really like this truck A LOT.

05-06-2003, 11:27 AM	#19
bouncytruck SKINNY TIRES RULE! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 11,049	You'll find something better than that. They pop up quite often around here. Usually in the $3000-$5000 range for something decent. Good luck and let us know if you find something else. __________________ bouncytruck 1972 K5 The Hauler 1994 K1500 Suburban The Daily2010 Kia Soul Wife's Ride2014 Fiat 500L

05-06-2003, 11:40 AM	#20
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	There are deals out there. I paid $1500 for my suburban a few months back Then there are people who think they can get a lot more then its worth. There is a guy next to my buddies new house that is asking $5000 for a 68 SWB with a 327. The thing needs a total restore. It could be used as a driver but it would need a bit of work. Glad to see you saved your money and did waste it on someone elses junk. Althought it does suck that the truck wont have a good home. Pic of my suburban: Attached Images __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

05-06-2003, 01:08 PM	#21
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,463	mikep found a 1969 stepside daily driver with a I-6 and speed for $500. I passed on it but CARS4567 picked it up and drove it home! I could not get excited about another short stepside even at $500. THERE ARE LOTS OF GOOD DEALS OUT THERE! Don't get too excited about just another truck unless you really need the parts NOW! I am taking the minimalist approach to my rodstoration at this point so this is just my 0.02 rant...LOL! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

05-06-2003, 01:59 PM	#22
GloryHound Working on a Nova. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ## Posts: 506	Well I know it is a 4X4 but just to give you a hint I bought a 69 GMC Fleetside half ton and drove it home for 500.00 and it passed inspection. The body is solid metal but has some nice dents in it. Then just last weekend I bought a 72 GMC 1 ton dually for 450.00 The engine sounded like it was ready to throw a rod and the body is lookin rough, but I got a used 305 for 125.00 and dropped it in on sunday and then drove the thing 250 miles home down the PA turn pike All said and done to get the 72 and get it running it cost me 1200.00. Now I need to find a rear shackle, weld some floor pans in and it will make a great every day driver as long as I'm not going for fuel mileage.

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