Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

72farmer · 01-20-2016, 07:18 PM

What is wrong here.I bought a new lower hose for my 72 and it is the same as the one that was on it.I drained coolant out started cutting alittle at a time off at the radiator.I was trying to relocate the hose fauther towards the front to get it to clear the raised part of the frame.
Is the outlet on the water pump in the right place?Maybe the water pump is for another style vehicle?Please help I do not know what else to try.

**Grumpy old man** · 01-20-2016, 08:05 PM

Twist the end of the hose closest to the radiator clockwise before tightening the hose clamp and it will lay better over the frame rail.

**kwmech** · 01-20-2016, 08:06 PM

I've always cut a portion off the old hose and used it as a buffer between the 2. Get rid of the cheap 99c plastic filter before you burn your truck down

**john** · 01-20-2016, 08:11 PM

Your bottom outlet does not look like it angles up like a 67-72 rad, it looks like it is straight. Here's a link with a straight outlet with a hose number and pic on post # 13.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625730

72_K10_Vegas · 01-20-2016, 09:14 PM

Thanks John. Got the 72 K-10 that I put a serpentine on and your thread helped.

El Dorado Jim · 01-20-2016, 11:46 PM

like KWMech said, cut a piece from the old hose and sandwich between new hose and frame

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 01-21-2016, 12:12 AM

Backwards? Wrong radiator?

swamp rat · 01-21-2016, 12:28 AM

Maybe its just me but the frame rail looks like its bent upward.. Its suppose to be flat across the top

30 a truck · 01-21-2016, 06:45 AM

My frame rail is also "bent" upward in that area. Is it not suppose to be?

67 chevelle · 01-21-2016, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30 a truck

My frame rail is also "bent" upward in that area. Is it not suppose to be?

They are all bent in that fuel pump area

BugzC10 · 01-21-2016, 09:02 AM

The top of my frame rail also rises up in that area, my radiator hose does not lay on top of it and the hose starts to curve towards the water pump sooner. First impression I got when I looked at the pictures was that your radiator sits too low in the perches or you have the wrong radiator. ...something just doesn't look right. How about some addition pictures from the top & bottom?

67c10rustbuket · 01-21-2016, 10:45 AM

The lower hose is a cut to fit for all V8 2wd and 4wd 67-72 trucks. Since the "K10" 4wd motor is farther back, you need to cut to fit for 2wd on the rad end. Cut a few inches off to get it off the turned up frame edge area. That being said its still a POS and poor replacement. I think they(replacement industry) could come up with much better. The 73+ hose has a real nice profile that wraps around the frame without interference but it is 1.5" on the rad end and the 67-72 rad is 1.75" so if you feeling strong go with that one but I would hate to have to replace that one on the side of the road. I found another hose that is 1.75" on both ends that fits pretty good.

**michael bustamante** · 01-21-2016, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john

Your bottom outlet does not look like it angles up like a 67-72 rad, it looks like it is straight. Here's a link with a straight outlet with a hose number and pic on post # 13.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625730

even with the angled outlet, my hose still rests on the frame edge, i did like the others and cut a piece off the old hose and wrapped it around the new hose where it hits the frame

davepl · 01-21-2016, 01:43 PM

I don't want to be silly, but could the hose be backwards? Turn it around and have it come off the pump at a sharper upward angle?

Either way, lose the rubber fuel hose and plastic filter. Steel is your friend!

swamp rat · 01-21-2016, 02:57 PM

To me the bend just looked more pronumced than the one on my truck.

What would happen if you shortened the radiator end a little, about 3 or 4" and loosened the clamp on the engine and rotated that end clockwise a little, would that get the hose forward off that frame bend?

**Ironhorse** · 01-21-2016, 09:20 PM

From looking at the posted picture seems to me the radiator is the wrong application for the truck. To your knowledge has the radiator been changed that you know of to current radiator? The local radiator shop, (last one in Wichita and been in business since mid late 60's or early 70's) told me that all GM radiators are the same actual core size for width and height between cars and trucks during the 60's and into the late 70's, differanced only by either 2,3 or 4 rows. Only difference was for the trucks the lower radiator opening was curved and turned up-wards to account for the radiator setting lower to the frame than it did in a car. I have a '71 K-10 4x4 and the lower opening turns upwards, even with that I have a old split piece of hose zip tied around the lower hose to prevent chafing as it get close to the frame still.

Sorry for the long post but with all that said, looks to me like the radiator is in-correct for the truck. If you have a "good" radiator shop local run it by them and have them possibly confirm what my local shop said about the up-turned opening. Good luck

**FirstOwner69** · 01-21-2016, 10:25 PM

Here's picture of mine with the original 4 core radiator which shows the upward bend of the lower outlet. It clears the frame fine. I'm not sure where I got the hose, but I think it was Classic Industries. Mines a 350.

EDIT: This thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625730 just came to the top as I was typing. Maybe it'll help.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 01-23-2016, 11:41 PM

Clean

72farmer · 01-24-2016, 01:13 AM

Yeah I gotta do something with the cheap filter and fuel line to carb.IDK if it is the correct radiator or not.The bottom connection on the radiator is curved and turned upward.I have tried cutting the hose at the radiator.Afraid I will ruin it (too short) like I did the hose before.I guess I will give up on it but I sure don't like it.

01-20-2016, 07:18 PM	#1
72farmer Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hazel Green AL Posts: 286	Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame What is wrong here.I bought a new lower hose for my 72 and it is the same as the one that was on it.I drained coolant out started cutting alittle at a time off at the radiator.I was trying to relocate the hose fauther towards the front to get it to clear the raised part of the frame. Is the outlet on the water pump in the right place?Maybe the water pump is for another style vehicle?Please help I do not know what else to try. Attached Images Last edited by 72farmer; 01-20-2016 at 07:23 PM. Reason: pics

01-20-2016, 08:05 PM	#2
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame Twist the end of the hose closest to the radiator clockwise before tightening the hose clamp and it will lay better over the frame rail.

01-20-2016, 08:06 PM	#3
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,388	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame I've always cut a portion off the old hose and used it as a buffer between the 2. Get rid of the cheap 99c plastic filter before you burn your truck down

01-20-2016, 08:11 PM	#4
john member #16 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Yuba City Ca. Posts: 3,618	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame Your bottom outlet does not look like it angles up like a 67-72 rad, it looks like it is straight. Here's a link with a straight outlet with a hose number and pic on post # 13. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625730 __________________ john http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showgroups.php board vendors http://www.flickr.com/photos/1745471...7602865984234/ Last edited by john; 01-20-2016 at 08:34 PM.

01-20-2016, 09:14 PM	#5
72_K10_Vegas Registered User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Las Vegas Nevada Posts: 93	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame Thanks John. Got the 72 K-10 that I put a serpentine on and your thread helped. __________________ 72 K10

01-20-2016, 11:46 PM	#6
El Dorado Jim Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: El Dorado Ca Posts: 3,374	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame like KWMech said, cut a piece from the old hose and sandwich between new hose and frame

01-21-2016, 12:12 AM	#7
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,118	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame Backwards? Wrong radiator? __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s of OEM identifications and part numbers, all written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

01-21-2016, 12:28 AM	#8
swamp rat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Spanaway Posts: 8,451	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame Maybe its just me but the frame rail looks like its bent upward.. Its suppose to be flat across the top __________________ Mike. Swamp Rat build thread : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=595019 72 3/4T 4X4 4" BDS Lift 33" BFG's

01-21-2016, 06:45 AM	#9
30 a truck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cowpens S.C. Posts: 138	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame My frame rail is also "bent" upward in that area. Is it not suppose to be?

01-21-2016, 09:02 AM	#11
BugzC10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Green Valley Arizona Posts: 1,351	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame The top of my frame rail also rises up in that area, my radiator hose does not lay on top of it and the hose starts to curve towards the water pump sooner. First impression I got when I looked at the pictures was that your radiator sits too low in the perches or you have the wrong radiator. ...something just doesn't look right. How about some addition pictures from the top & bottom? __________________ 1970 C10 Short Stepper with 71/72 front clip.

01-21-2016, 10:45 AM	#12
67c10rustbuket Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mustang, Oklahoma Posts: 2,807	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame The lower hose is a cut to fit for all V8 2wd and 4wd 67-72 trucks. Since the "K10" 4wd motor is farther back, you need to cut to fit for 2wd on the rad end. Cut a few inches off to get it off the turned up frame edge area. That being said its still a POS and poor replacement. I think they(replacement industry) could come up with much better. The 73+ hose has a real nice profile that wraps around the frame without interference but it is 1.5" on the rad end and the 67-72 rad is 1.75" so if you feeling strong go with that one but I would hate to have to replace that one on the side of the road. I found another hose that is 1.75" on both ends that fits pretty good. __________________ Dan <---(my name) 67 SWB C10 project "GEORGIA"-59 Brookwood 2dr wag...Next project-03 Tahoe 4x4 5.3 family ride-07 Hondur Accord, commuter car

01-21-2016, 01:43 PM	#14
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame I don't want to be silly, but could the hose be backwards? Turn it around and have it come off the pump at a sharper upward angle? Either way, lose the rubber fuel hose and plastic filter. Steel is your friend! __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

01-21-2016, 02:57 PM	#15
swamp rat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Spanaway Posts: 8,451	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame To me the bend just looked more pronumced than the one on my truck. What would happen if you shortened the radiator end a little, about 3 or 4" and loosened the clamp on the engine and rotated that end clockwise a little, would that get the hose forward off that frame bend? __________________ Mike. Swamp Rat build thread : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=595019 72 3/4T 4X4 4" BDS Lift 33" BFG's

01-21-2016, 09:20 PM	#16
Ironhorse Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Wellington, Ks Posts: 10,009	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame From looking at the posted picture seems to me the radiator is the wrong application for the truck. To your knowledge has the radiator been changed that you know of to current radiator? The local radiator shop, (last one in Wichita and been in business since mid late 60's or early 70's) told me that all GM radiators are the same actual core size for width and height between cars and trucks during the 60's and into the late 70's, differanced only by either 2,3 or 4 rows. Only difference was for the trucks the lower radiator opening was curved and turned up-wards to account for the radiator setting lower to the frame than it did in a car. I have a '71 K-10 4x4 and the lower opening turns upwards, even with that I have a old split piece of hose zip tied around the lower hose to prevent chafing as it get close to the frame still. Sorry for the long post but with all that said, looks to me like the radiator is in-correct for the truck. If you have a "good" radiator shop local run it by them and have them possibly confirm what my local shop said about the up-turned opening. Good luck __________________ 1971 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 LWB 350 V-8 Was sm465-now 350TH/np205 Tilt, Tach, Towhooks Original Truck AM/FM Wellington, Ks

01-21-2016, 10:25 PM	#17
FirstOwner69 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin & Arizona Posts: 4,838	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame Here's picture of mine with the original 4 core radiator which shows the upward bend of the lower outlet. It clears the frame fine. I'm not sure where I got the hose, but I think it was Classic Industries. Mines a 350. EDIT: This thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625730 just came to the top as I was typing. Maybe it'll help. Attached Images



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01-23-2016, 11:41 PM	#18
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,118	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame Clean __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring it from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s of OEM identifications and part numbers, all written in short order. 700+ images include assm, illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

01-24-2016, 01:13 AM	#19
72farmer Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hazel Green AL Posts: 286	Re: Lower radiator hose laying on sharp edge of frame Yeah I gotta do something with the cheap filter and fuel line to carb.IDK if it is the correct radiator or not.The bottom connection on the radiator is curved and turned upward.I have tried cutting the hose at the radiator.Afraid I will ruin it (too short) like I did the hose before.I guess I will give up on it but I sure don't like it.

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