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Old 09-20-2008, 07:15 PM   #1
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Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

I recently purchased a replacement "Urethane" 81-87 style dash pad for my crew cab from Classic Parts of America. I didn't want to use a "cap" style replacement and I didn't want to spend the mega bucks for an NOS one,... so I thought this would work. The idea sounds like a good one. Urethane material with the color dyed all the way through. Soft so it won't crack,... and no dye to peel off or fade.
I purchased dash pad part #30-823R and a new dash moulding part#32-060. I already had 2 new vents from GM. OK,... now for the bad. This thing is too flexible. It's like trying to install a "noodle" and making it look flat and straight. (I think I could bend it into a "U-shape" if I wanted to) If the metal underneath the dash was completely flat, it would work perfect. But it's not. First you have to dig the urethane out of the slots for the dash clips. (Also cut the extra blobs of urethane off in the general clip area) The repop dash panel moulding appeared to be too long,... even though it was the same length as my original. (see the pics where it hangs off the end) The clips pull down on the pad,... but everything underneath pushes up on the pad. This ends up with the dash being somewhat wavy across the top. I did the best I could do. My truck only has the 2 smaller speakers out by the edges. I have no speaker in the middle. Guess where the dash sags down? Right in the middle. It's in. It looks better than my old cracked one. Next time I will dye an original. Glad I didn't buy two. (I need one for my '86 also) Heres' some pics.
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:18 PM   #2
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

ya, can see some waves, but from the pics, does not look too bad.
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:07 PM   #3
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

could you have put something in the middle to keep it from sagging? looks goo other wards
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:18 PM   #4
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

I think when I replace the stock stereo and speakers I will fix it.
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:31 PM   #5
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

yea u could maybe try put a length of fiberboard/mdf under it for support?
dosnt look too bad but..
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:55 PM   #6
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

Is it the "Urethane" 81-87 version that comes with a board in the middle of it? If so, there isn't any metal in it, it is all molded Urethane. I have those for like $200 + shipping and they aren't advertised because well, I wouldn't put them on my truck. The 73-80 version isn't any better.
The company that makes them have a skinned vinyl version that is MUCH better.... I have those too, but they only come in Black and Blue.
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:56 PM   #7
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

I purchased one a while back too...experienced the same problems. I was very unhappy and sold it. I will only use GM dash pads for our trucks.

Didn't I sell you a brown 81+ pad?
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:17 PM   #8
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

Yeah Jeff,... I still have it. I'm saving it. Captkaos,...I guess I should have asked on the board first. You are correct. It comes in a triangle shaped box and when you open it it has a 1x2 board screwed to it to keep it straight, I guess. When I went to the All Truck Nats I stopped by Classic Parts. The one on the shelf looked nice. So since I was there I decided to save some freight. It was $224. Live and learn. I guess that's what I get for impulse buying. Ha. I wouldn't put it in a show truck but it's much better than those stupid caps or my old cracked one. How much for the "skinned vinyl" version?
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:19 PM   #9
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

I have one of the Vinyl ones also. The replacement dashes are made by Dashes Direct/Universal Urethane out of Las Vegas.

FYI-The arm rest pads that Dashes Direct/Universal Urethane makes are NOT made of vinyl and they do not make any in vinyl. The urethane parts CAN NOT be dyed successfully so make sure you check that before ordering something only to find out it won't take paint to match a special interior color that you are using.
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:32 PM   #10
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

Check mine man. I reupholstered the dash pad with a kind of vinyl like Ultra-Leather you'll love the finish.. I only used bondo to fix the cracks.
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:40 PM   #11
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

Looks nice!
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:43 PM   #12
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

Here is what I feel is a better alternative to any repop. Check this site out: http://www.justdashes.com/Products.htm I'm not sure what they charge to do it, but this company can restore your original GM dash to better than new condition with original colors and grain patterns.

This is the route that I plan to take when the time comes to redo mine rather than try to track down a good used original GM dashpad to either dye, or fork out even more for a new GM one that may need to be dyed my color anyway. Thought that I'd pass this along as another alternative. Even if it costs a little more to go this route, it sure beats one of those ill fitting repops in my opinion. ...Joe
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:44 PM   #13
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

Even though the product was lacking in function, it definintely looks better than the original cracked dash. Nice work Keith!
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Old 09-21-2008, 01:14 AM   #14
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

Just dashes charges about $500 (last I knew) for a dash.
For the people I know of that got them from there they said they are great.

BUT, I sell OEM GM dashes for 81-91's for $355 + shipping.

It is $225 for the "skinned" vinyl dashes...
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:16 AM   #15
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

I bought one of those and promptly called them to let them know it was coming back. You need an archeologist to dig out where the screws go and the part above the gauges was saggier than a nursing home pool party. You made it look nice by the way, but I thought $200 plus was too much to pay for something I had to "customize". I ended up getting a perfect one from a buddy and dying it.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:47 AM   #16
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

I should have sent it back. But I thought how hard could it be? I'll fix the center by the speaker. Also the repop dash bezel had issues. The plastic studs were a little shorter. The speed nuts that hold it on just barely grip them. I don't know if the urethane dash is thicker in this area or what the problem is. It was a b*tch to install the a/c vent pieces behind it.
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

I had similar problems... After months of research, I purchased a brown replacement dash from Cheyenne Pickup (believed to be the best reproduction). I personally took it back to the factory, who admitted that it was molded incorrectly. They offered me a black one and said they could still sell the faulty one for $150 at a swap meet... I was shocked they would intentionally sell junk.

I then purchased a NOS GM dash from GMPartsdirect... The one I received after several weeks wait looked like it had been crushed. There were multiple dimples and depressions in the top of the dash. They took it back, no questions asked and now I have a third dash ready for installation. It only took three months and cost three times what a plastic cover would have, not counting $60 worth of Dupont dye.
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

I just replaced mine. I leaned my lesson earlier and dropped some serious money on a new one. $550 later and a few modifications, the dash looks amazing...

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Check mine man. I reupholstered the dash pad with a kind of vinyl like Ultra-Leather you'll love the finish.. I only used bondo to fix the cracks.
how did you get it to lay down and not wrinkle where the dash hump is
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I spent 30$ on mine
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Check mine man. I reupholstered the dash pad with a kind of vinyl like Ultra-Leather you'll love the finish.. I only used bondo to fix the cracks.
What exactly did you use and where'd you get it?
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Just dashes charges about $500 (last I knew) for a dash.
For the people I know of that got them from there they said they are great.

BUT, I sell OEM GM dashes for 81-91's for $355 + shipping.

It is $225 for the "skinned" vinyl dashes...
cHRIS > What is a skinned vinyl dash pad

do you have one in a med. or charcoal gray

If you dont can a skinned pad be dyed or painted .

As you maty know Ihave been trying to sell my black dashes direct pad (urathane ) changed my mind on color & kept it too long to return it . Called sem & they daid it could be painted but not wiythout spending a nother hundred or so in prep materials & still not knowing how it will turn out .
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

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Just dashes charges about $500 (last I knew) for a dash.
For the people I know of that got them from there they said they are great.

BUT, I sell OEM GM dashes for 81-91's for $355 + shipping.

It is $225 for the "skinned" vinyl dashes...

$355 for a new GM one is a good price. It's a lot for what it is, just a dash pad, but they're just about the best you can buy.
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Re: Classic Parts Replacement Dash Pad Install,... (long story)

Skinned vinyl dash is one that is made like the factory with skinned vinyl.
The aftermarket ones only come in Blue or Black.

I have painted them without any issues.

Factory GM dashes that I sell ONLY come in grey (as pictured on my site) When they replaced them at the dealership the painted them to match the interior of the truck it was going in. It would be just like painting a used dash to match.

If you have the rubbery urethane version, there is NO WAY you can paint it and it stick, trust me...

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$355 for a new GM one is a good price. It's a lot for what it is, just a dash pad, but they're just about the best you can buy.
In perspective that isn't THAT bad a price, they aren't just about the best you can buy, they are the best, they are GM dashes new in the box. In perspective, the aftermarket ones I have cost $265 + shipping.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:52 PM   #25
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I got the urethane dash pad as wel what a PITA to get installed and it still doesn't look right. I used a die grinder with sanding wheels on it to trim it down in places and could never get it just right. I was not impressed in the slightest bit with the fitment. I spent about 4 hours working with it and it just doesn't fit good. There is not much I can do about it.

But.... It looks way better than a cracked up piece of crap dash that already had one of those caps on it and that was cracking too LOL.
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