The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board > Squarebody Projects and Builds

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-21-2009, 11:49 AM   #1
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

So I've posted a couple posts here and there, but never a project thread. I know I should have done this earlier, but I'll start now.

Here's the background on my truck. I had seen this 3/4 ton crew cab sitting on a side street for years. It already had a shortened frame and bed on it. It never moved so I figured it had issues. One day I finally knocked on the guys door. He was eager to sell it but never advertised it. It had a broken driveline/yolk and the motor had a blown head gasket, he possibly ruined the motor from overheating it. He did not build the truck. It only ran for 6 months before it broke down and it been sitting ever since. The builder was a local racer and he used to haul his race car. The owner's wife said he would be stupid not to sell it to me for $1000. I offered him $500 and he could keep the nice 8-lug rims and tires. He agreed.

I towed it home and it sat for a few months. After looking it over, we found the 3/4 ton frame was nasty. The fab work was shotty and the bed didn't sit right. It just had cut springs in the front and the rear leaf springs were just moved up on the frame and welded into place. See the frame pics. I was planning to swap out the front suspension and the rear end to make it 5-lug... while using the current frame. Since the frame was a little scary we decided to think of other options.

After seeing a crew cab truck with flat bed on a Suburban frame, my dad got the bright idea to mate a 2wd Suburban frame with a 2wd short bed truck frame. We found a free gutted 2wd Suburban in a nearby town and traded some parts for a stripped short bed truck frame. After lots of measuring and checking, we cut the Suburban frame right at the second cab mount where the frame is straight. I have never heard of anyone doing this, but it worked like a charm. After welding it up, we placed the cab and front clip on the new frame. Every bolt slid right into place. Set the bed on it and it was perfect as well.

So now the truck is a 1/2 ton crew cab with a short bed. I put some drop spindles on it and used the cut 3/4 ton springs for now. I bought axle bracket to flip the rear and I'll probably look at getting some shackles or hangers to go a tad lower and adding a notch. I'm running 7" rallies in the front and 8" ones in the back. I'll powder coat them black or charcoal. I also have a 91 grill/core support for it and power mirrors on the way.

So that's where I am now. Thanks for check this out.
Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 11:55 AM   #2
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

For some reason these photos aren't showing up for everyone. Check out my gallery to see all of them.

http://picasaweb.google.com/Glendon.Simpson/Crewella02

When I first got her. Trailer mirrors are going first.














Last edited by Tow Me; 08-22-2009 at 05:22 PM. Reason: Pics not showing up.
Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 11:58 AM   #3
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Got the rims back to the old owner and looked over the frame. Kinda scary!











Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 12:00 PM   #4
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Pulled the cab and front clip off in one piece.







Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 12:03 PM   #5
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Got the new frames clamped in place. There were left a with a few inches on each frame before the final cut was made.







Made the final cut.



Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 12:04 PM   #6
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Now we have the body back on the new 1/2 ton frame.



Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 12:06 PM   #7
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Lowered the rear and one side has the drop spindles in place.









Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 06:19 PM   #8
menace121978
Registered User
 
menace121978's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: orangevale, ca
Posts: 3,627
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

wow! nice truck!! and awesome work... but the 1st 15 pics are red x's and a few farther down. definitely want to see more!!
__________________
"Dennis the Menace"



1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E
MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK

2006 TBSS way too much to list
menace121978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 06:28 PM   #9
LiveAnimals
Registered User
 
LiveAnimals's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Antelope, CA
Posts: 682
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

I agree, nice work. I am lovin the wheel and tire combo. Ready for more
__________________
Kameron
YESTERDAY IS HISTORY - TOMORROW IS A MYSTERY

I'm a Middle ClASS HOLE

07.5 Dodge 3500 CTD -- Daily
73 C10 Factory BB SWB 2WD
LiveAnimals is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 06:32 PM   #10
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Thanks guys! I can't wait to drive it. I just ordered some power mirrors.

Here's my web album if you can't see the photos.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Glendon.Simpson/Crewella02#
__________________
Glen Simpson
Severed Ties - Oregon
Roseburg, Oregon
  • 1983 Chevrolet C10 - Ginger
    Photos

Past Trucks

Last edited by Tow Me; 08-21-2009 at 06:38 PM.
Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 06:37 PM   #11
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Here are my mirrors.


__________________
Glen Simpson
Severed Ties - Oregon
Roseburg, Oregon
  • 1983 Chevrolet C10 - Ginger
    Photos

Past Trucks
Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2009, 06:52 PM   #12
joe231
Registered User
 
joe231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 13,805
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Man you must have read my mind...or maybe my post

I was just asking on my 1980 build thread if the sub frame and the crew cab frames had the same body mounts.....by reading this I'm guessing the answer is yes?
this is very much like what I was pondering doing with the sub front frame and the short bed rear...so you used the front and mid cab mounts on the sub frame and attached the short bed frame with the rear cab mounts?
I was even thinking about cutting the sub body and mating the back of my standard cab to it to make a crew-cab....dunno how much work that would be....but the 2wd subs seem to be a dime a dozen around here with very decent bodies....

can you post some after pics of the finished frame splice?
__________________
CHEVY ONLY

Last edited by joe231; 08-21-2009 at 06:52 PM.
joe231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2009, 12:02 PM   #13
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Cutting the back off of a suburban and adding the truck cab sounds like a lot of work.... I would like to see someone make an Avalanche out of an 73-91 Suburban. Ever heard of that?

As for the frame. Yes.... we used a 2wd Suburban frame and right around the middle cab mount bracket is where we cut the suburban. Thats were the frame is straight. I believe that where the single cab truck has its front cab mount.

Sorry the photos are blurry. Thats all I have from the frame.

Before the




Here is where the frame was cut and the cab mount bolts back on.


Inside of the frame on the backside of the cab mount.
__________________
Glen Simpson
Severed Ties - Oregon
Roseburg, Oregon
  • 1983 Chevrolet C10 - Ginger
    Photos

Past Trucks
Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2009, 03:25 PM   #14
joe231
Registered User
 
joe231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 13,805
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

That looks nice!

maybe i missed it, did you guys box the frame or add any extra plate at the splice?

I have thought about the Avalanche...it seems like a lot of work also....you would need to shorten the body and frame behind the rear wheels to make it look right IMO, and come up with some custom type of rear wall with a window in it....it would be very cool with a power rear window though
__________________
CHEVY ONLY
joe231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2009, 05:20 PM   #15
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

We didn't box it in. Its just got a fishplate on the back side. It was cut at a 45 so it will be plenty strong. When I do the rear notch, i'll box that in.
__________________
Glen Simpson
Severed Ties - Oregon
Roseburg, Oregon
  • 1983 Chevrolet C10 - Ginger
    Photos

Past Trucks
Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2009, 05:21 PM   #16
joe231
Registered User
 
joe231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 13,805
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

cool man, one more question...is the fish plate bolted or welded?
__________________
CHEVY ONLY
joe231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2009, 05:51 PM   #17
joe231
Registered User
 
joe231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 13,805
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

something like this?

Name:  AVALANCE 2.JPG
Views: 7765
Size:  17.2 KB

here is one with the stock wheelbase

Name:  AVALANCHE 3.JPG
Views: 7763
Size:  18.0 KB

and stock wheelbase and the rear end shortened

Name:  AVALANCHE 4.JPG
Views: 14177
Size:  16.8 KB
__________________
CHEVY ONLY

Last edited by joe231; 08-22-2009 at 06:28 PM.
joe231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2009, 06:30 PM   #18
LiveAnimals
Registered User
 
LiveAnimals's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Antelope, CA
Posts: 682
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

That's awsome
__________________
Kameron
YESTERDAY IS HISTORY - TOMORROW IS A MYSTERY

I'm a Middle ClASS HOLE

07.5 Dodge 3500 CTD -- Daily
73 C10 Factory BB SWB 2WD
LiveAnimals is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2009, 06:37 PM   #19
joe231
Registered User
 
joe231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 13,805
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

the last one is probably closest to the actual dims of the Avalanche

__________________
CHEVY ONLY
joe231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2009, 06:33 AM   #20
Tow Me
Glen
 
Tow Me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Posts: 331
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

I like it! The 3rd one works for me.

The fish plate was welded in.
__________________
Glen Simpson
Severed Ties - Oregon
Roseburg, Oregon
  • 1983 Chevrolet C10 - Ginger
    Photos

Past Trucks
Tow Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2009, 04:50 AM   #21
blazentrout
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: G.R. Michigan
Posts: 7
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tow Me View Post
Cutting the back off of a suburban and adding the truck cab sounds like a lot of work.... I would like to see someone make an Avalanche out of an 73-91 Suburban. Ever heard of that?
I have, i was stupid enough to weld a pickup cab back on/in a '78 suburban. Then i got really stupid-dont ask. its not done up like a avalanche but as a uni-body short box. I'll dig it out of the corner and snap a pic. give me a couple of days. It looks like you got a good start.
blazentrout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2009, 08:39 AM   #22
joe231
Registered User
 
joe231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 13,805
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

__________________
CHEVY ONLY
joe231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2009, 03:18 PM   #23
justpball
Registered User
 
justpball's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Silverhill, Al
Posts: 2,023
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

cool!
__________________
Fuzzy Dice Club Member

87 Crew SWB
Build for the crew
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=430082

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3232925
90 burb 2wd

Build Thread For The Burb!
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=383055
justpball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2009, 03:29 PM   #24
BGRAFX
Account Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: kansas city Ks
Posts: 1,971
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

blazentrout-do you have pic?
BGRAFX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2009, 09:07 PM   #25
N2TRUX
Happy to be here

 
N2TRUX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 38,382
Re: Crewella - My '81 crew cab, short bed 1/2 ton

Updates?
__________________
Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com

Articles-

"Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab

"Elwood" the77_Remix

85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett"

"Refining Sierra"
N2TRUX is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2013 67-72chevytrucks.com