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Old 10-27-2009, 03:23 PM   #1
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First Ever Build Thread

OK fellas, we've got a pretty good start tearing the old girl apart, so I think I'll start a build thread with a few pictures. Probably gonna need some support along the way and figuring this'll take quite a while to complete so here goes....just a few basic pics.
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Old 10-27-2009, 03:25 PM   #2
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Old 10-27-2009, 03:31 PM   #3
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:00 AM   #4
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Looks good...you keeping it a GMC?
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:25 AM   #5
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That's a nice truck to be starting with! That's almost like cheating on a test
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:15 AM   #6
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Thanks. Yes we're keeping it a GMC. This is my son's truck that I bought him a year or so ago with intentions of a father son fixerupper. Soon after I bought it I was shipped to Georgia to work on a construction project. Now I'm home and the overwhelming guilt from being gone for so long has turned this fixerupper into a frame off resto/mod. He wants black paint with black and red interior. We're going to pull the cab this weekend and try to make a cab dolly to take with us to the body shop. My painter has decided he doesn't want to do the final coat because black paint is so hard to spray without getting trash in the paint. He's going to do all the body work and prime everything and then paint the adjoining pieces so we can re-assemble and then we can take it to a better paint shop for the finish coat. He's 14 and he has 3 spread sheets made in Microsoft Excel. One for LMC, one for Brothers, and one for H&H. This is his Christmas list. I've explained to him that this is probably a 2 yr process but hopefully by the time he's of driving age it'll be ready to go. He attends a private school where all his buddies are driving Mercedes and BMWs and he's going to be driving a really cool 72 GMC Stepside. I'm digging it.

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Old 10-28-2009, 01:51 PM   #7
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I think I just developed somewhat of a plan. Since my paint guy isn't going to spray the whole truck in black, and since we're going to be tinkering on the old truck for quite a while before we're finished, I think I'm going to focus on the interior of the truck first. That will let me narrow his Christmas Wish list down to just interior items. My painter is going to paint the inside, and behind the cab and the front of the bed...all the parts that can't be painted when assembled so with the inside painted, we can install new carpet, headliner, visors, and other interior stuff.

We're going to have the engine and tranny pulled out of the truck to clean up and paint so i won't have to worry about scratching new paint when we go back with the engine, and I will be able to take my time with frame restoration and engine work. Yeah, I'm liking that plan.
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:00 PM   #8
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Be sure to consider that there's a lot of paintable surfaces on the inside before you start permanently installing too much stuff. If you're taking the time to do a frame-off, I really think you'll want the cab bare and empty when it goes for exterior paint. Nothing wrong with accumulating the parts, but I fear you won't be happy with the incomplete coverage you'll get outside if you are masking off everything inside. Just my $0.02....
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:13 PM   #9
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Be sure to consider that there's a lot of paintable surfaces on the inside before you start permanently installing too much stuff. If you're taking the time to do a frame-off, I really think you'll want the cab bare and empty when it goes for exterior paint. Nothing wrong with accumulating the parts, but I fear you won't be happy with the incomplete coverage you'll get outside if you are masking off everything inside. Just my $0.02....

The inside is one of the things that my paint guy is going to go ahead and paint. Most of the inside will get covered with carpet, dash, door panels, seats and kick panels so we're going to go ahead and paint that. This way we can go ahead and buy those pieces and get them installed while we finish the motor.

He's also going to paint the bottom of the hood, firewall and inner fender wells, behind the cab and front of the bed. Basically any adjoining surfaces or otherwise concealed after assembly. But..thanks for the tips.
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:20 PM   #10
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It'll probably work out just fine. I'm just thinking about the greater potential for paint separation where things are masked off -- door jams, etc. Me personally, I wouldn't be interested in putting the interior in just to have to carefully mask it all off again for later painting, considering how relatively quickly an interior can be installed in these trucks. Seems like any time you'd save by installing the stuff now will be squandered when you have to tape it all off later and paint around it, not to mention the extra labor and hassle. But that's just me -- as I said, it'll probably turn out just fine.
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:39 AM   #11
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Couple updated pictures of the frame painted and the engine cleaned up and painted. Remember fellas when critiquing these pictures that my son and I are just a couple good ol' boys who are just "fixing up an old truck". We won't ever be able to get things perfect. Not enough skill or cash to do that. Anyway here's a couple pics.
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:41 AM   #12
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We're not nearly finished with the engine. We just stuck it back together to get a feel for how it was gonna look. The sheet metal is all fixed and primed and we'll probably set the cab back on the frame fairly soon. Need to find some new body mounts and also looking for a set of ram horn manifolds and about a million other things.
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:50 AM   #13
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That will make a nice truck. You guys are doing a great job. I would recommend rubber body mounts, they are more expensive but the poly's are too hard and transfer a lot of road vibration to the cab. Check craigslist.org for the rams horn manifolds, you would be surprised how many of them there are around. If you want the 2 1/2" corvette style ones I think they are being reproduced.

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I really like the paint scheme on the motor! The black manifold gives off a really tough effect. Is it just a satin black?
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Old 03-08-2010, 02:18 PM   #15
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so whats the plans for it once its done?
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Old 03-08-2010, 02:29 PM   #16
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Couple updated pictures of the frame painted and the engine cleaned up and painted. Remember fellas when critiquing these pictures that my son and I are just a couple good ol' boys who are just "fixing up an old truck". We won't ever be able to get things perfect. Not enough skill or cash to do that. Anyway here's a couple pics.

Hey, it looks great to me, Nice Work. And as far as "Perfect" goes, no one has a perfect truck on here...although there is probably a few who will say they do

And you will find that most of us are just Good Ol Boys playin with our trucks as well.

Keep up the good work, and keep the pics coming!
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Old 03-08-2010, 02:42 PM   #17
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Looks fantastic so far! I would go with rubber cab/core support mounts as Lockdoc suggested. You can get a full set from www.truckandcarshop.com for $60. I just bought a set last week myself.
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Old 03-08-2010, 02:47 PM   #18
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I really like the paint scheme on the motor! The black manifold gives off a really tough effect. Is it just a satin black?

It's just 500 degree engine enamel. It is an aluminum intake so the texture of the manifold does sort of give it the look of a wrinkle finish. The rocker arm covers are also aluminum and we tried to clean them up but they were just too dirty, so we sprayed the paint on. After we painted them solid black I masked them off again and then sanded away the tape at the raised lettering and fins. Then shot the red on and then stripped off the masking. I thought that was a pretty neat trick.

As far as plans for the truck, it's gonna be black and red. Black paint with possibly the top and hood painted red. We've already bought new red carpet and a red dash pad, and some other chrome pieces such as door handles, inside and out, and window handles and vent window handles. Gonna recover the bench seat in black and red.

No mechanical mods cause the motor is a reman motor and it runs really good. Don't really need any power. I would however like to drop it down just a little. Maybe 2/4.

I've gotten discouraged a time or two but I started this thread in Oct of '09 so I think I'm making pretty good headway.
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Oh, by the way, the old beat up air breather is not what I intend to use. It was just the only thing I had to put over the carb to keep trash out.
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Worth an update I guess...but I finally scraped up the money to get the truck painted. Not sure if I updated when we finished the body work but yeah...we took all the panels to the body shop and had all the holes from speakers, and rusted fenders and floor boards and all that fixed and bondod and primed. Been ready for paint for a year or longer. Anyway...taking it to the shop tonight.
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