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Old 04-23-2011, 08:45 PM   #1
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700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

Hey guys, I'm currently setting the engine/tranny into the compartment. I have a short bed, and want to keep the stock e-brake crossmember.

I have searchered the forum and can not come up with anything for my certain scenario. Is there any way that on a short bed, i can run the 700R4 with the stock e-brake crossmember? I don't mind modifying it as long as it stays in the same location.

Does anybody have suggestions, or seen some one else do something similar to this?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:13 AM   #2
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

You may be able to retain the e-brake crossmember, by lowering it below the trans crossmember. Maybe flip it upside down? If it were me, I would just convert your truck over to the '66-'72 e-brake cable assembly.
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You may be able to retain the e-brake crossmember, by lowering it below the trans crossmember. Maybe flip it upside down? If it were me, I would just convert your truck over to the '66-'72 e-brake cable assembly.
How would you do that? I'm in the same boat.
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:09 AM   #4
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

What I did was crude but effective. Took out the e brake crossmember and cut out the part that holds the lever that holds the cables. Then I drilled holes and used the holes already in the 68 automatic crossmember with spacers to bolt the e brake crossmember to it. I hope I still have it all so I can put it back.
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You may be able to retain the e-brake crossmember, by lowering it below the trans crossmember. Maybe flip it upside down? If it were me, I would just convert your truck over to the '66-'72 e-brake cable assembly.
Captain, do you have any pics of converting this over? I also considered fliping it yes.

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What I did was crude but effective. Took out the e brake crossmember and cut out the part that holds the lever that holds the cables. Then I drilled holes and used the holes already in the 68 automatic crossmember with spacers to bolt the e brake crossmember to it. I hope I still have it all so I can put it back.
Do you have any pics of how it looks now?
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

Ok, i dont want to move the motor mounts forward so this is what i have,



This one is showing that the tranny still needs to come back and tilt down and clear the fire wall



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Old 04-24-2011, 12:37 PM   #7
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

no I don't have any pictures. I took it apart and have not put it back together yet. You might have to redrill the frame for the crossmember. For some reason My 65 had two sets of holes and the other set worked for me. My 66 didn't have two sets and I will have to drill the frame to accept the crossmember for the 700.
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

ah ha, found it at last!

some good tips in here:

700R4 Transmission for your '60-'65 Chevy/GMC Pickup - tips by persh

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ah ha, found it at last!
I thought of the same thread. Thanks for finding it. I'm guessing the suburban crossmember is from a 2WD. I don't see any parking brake accommodations though.
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

thanks guys, im not so much worried about a crossmember any more, im mainly concerned about how im going to retain the stock e brake crossmember with this trans. i should of clarified this earlier.

i know there are guys out there with a 700R4 in a swb. has anybody heard or seen of guys doing what captainfab suggested earlier?
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1966 style ebrake system - lots of pics and information about this setup


I used the above setup on my '65 c10 long bed since the ebrake system was missing from my truck when I bought it.

Also look at my truck page in my sig line for pictures of my ebrake cable setup... plus anything labeled as being under the truck shows how it is routed.

It may or may not help.

Here is a shot where someone lowered that stock '60-'65 brake mechanism underneath the cross member...



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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

I don't happen to have any pics at the moment. I could take some of a '70 frame that I have, but it looks like Woogeroo has pics in the link he posted. The '66-'72's didn't have that crossmember for the e-brake. They just use a series of cables and hooks/rods. Thgis would be the simplest IMO.

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Woogeroo thank you. That's a great picture, 1000 words and all.
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Ok, i dont want to move the motor mounts forward so this is what i have,



This one is showing that the tranny still needs to come back and tilt down and clear the fire wall



You`re at a crossroad here, either you`ll have to move engine mounts forward and install new trans member, or you`ll have to trim lip in firewal to clear trans and still install trans member....
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

does anybody know of links to the newer cable style conversion? i'm not finding any links.

I apperciate the input you guys are giving!!
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

I have a 66 swb fleetside gmc here is a link to pictures o the e brake set up, it is pretty simple, I have a 65 chevy also and the old system is much bulkier and harder to route exhaust around. Kieth www.kieth.smugmug.com go to the 66 gmc gallery.


here is a link to the e brake photo: http://kieth.smugmug.com/Trucks/66-G...39504536_X5Lck

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You`re at a crossroad here, either you`ll have to move engine mounts forward and install new trans member, or you`ll have to trim lip in firewal to clear trans and still install trans member....
You can acually just bend the the lip back and the tranny will slide back more. No trimming needed just a BFH.. Just the top part of the lip.
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

Allright, thanks guys and I will post up some pics of wht ever I come up with
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Re: 700R4 crossmember, need suggestions

Here are the cables listed at Classic parts.

http://www.classicparts.com/Hardware/products/198/2/0

I don't see the hooks or rods listed at either Classic or LMC.

You might check in the '60-'66 classifieds, or in the '67-'72 classifieds here on the forum. There will likely be someone that has the parts you are looking for.


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