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>>"flash the field"<<
An interesting term to use when you are talking about an AC Alternator. If we were talking about a DC Generator that term would make more sense. When discussing a DC Generator, someone will always mention Polarizing the Generator. In the first image below there are Iron Pole Pieces used in DC generators, The Field Windings are wrapped around these Pole Pieces. These Iron Pole Pieces retain a great deal of magnetism. The Polarity of the magnetism retained in these pole pieces is crucial to the correct operation of a DC Generator. When working on a DC Generator, it is common for the polarity of the residual magnetism to be reversed. It is then very important to correctly align the magnetic polarity of the pole pieces, with the Polarization procedure. AC Alternators do retain some residual magnetism, but the polarity is not an issue. In the second image, the ignition switch connects 12V from the battery, through the voltage regulator, directly to the field winding. Full Field magnetism is generated and current begins to flow in the Stator Windings. This ignition circuit is called a Exciter Circuit. Full Field magnetism is generated the moment the key is turned ON and also at idle. Field magnetism is reduced by the voltage regulator, as max voltage is reached. |
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>>The theory behind this is a perfect wire with perfect connections will not drop voltage so the meter will read zero volts.<<
All copper wire has resistance to electrical flow. The fatter the wire, the less resistance, the lower the voltage drop from one-end-to-the-other. Chevy relies on that voltage drop on the wire between the Alt and the Battery. That is the basis of the design of the Ammeter circuit. The greater the Alternator output, the greater the Voltage Drop on that wire, the greater the Ammeter indication. The type of Ammeter used in these trucks must have an External SHUNT. In this case the Charging wire serves doubly duty and is also the Shunt Wire for the Ammeter. Other Ammeters contain an Internal Shunt. This '67-72 Chevy Ammeter does not. |
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What would you expect the voltage drop on the Shunt wire to be on a stock system at idle with all the switchable loads turned off (i.e. wipers or headlights)? Hopefully the OP will be able get things back to normal. |
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That is good to hear. Congradulations!
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>>bumping up the idle by about 150rpm............... idling at around 850-900 rpm.<<
That's not what I would consider a solution. I wouldn't even consider 850-900 as an acceptable idle rpm. That's the rpm I would expect on the 1st or 2nd step of the High Speed idle cam mechanism. Earlier in post #16 you said you had 14.7V at cruise and 13v at idle. What is wrong with that? When you are talking about an automatic with an idle of 850-900 rpm, you probably have 150-200 rpm difference between Drive and Neutral. To me that is completely unacceptable. Having to BANG a transmission into drive, because of an incorrect idle rpm drives me crazy. |
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In post #16 you said 13V.
In post #30 you said you bumped the idle 150 up tp 850. Are you now saying your new 12SI is providing 12.3V at 700 rpm? In post #11 you provided a picture of the old 10DN alternator. What was its output voltage , at what idle rpm? Unless you have a high load at idle, it doesn't sound like the new 12SI is working properly. |
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Hello I think I will need this later.
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That seems to be a common problem with rebuilt stuff these days. I've replaced the rebuilt alternator on my truck twice, now. Both times for bad diodes.
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Since installing the new alternator, i am experiencing a pretty bad battery drain. is it possible that it is from the way it is wired?
I connected the 2 outside blue and brown wires at the regulator. I connected the 2 wires at the alternator plug what would be the brown and white wires (previous owner made them them the same color wires black) and connected both of them to the White wire on the ne 12si plug. I feel this might have been wrong. I ran a new 10ga wire to the battery from the the big red bolt on the back. I ran a new 10ga ground wire from the alternator housing to the ground on the battery. |
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I installed a 12SI alternator a few months ago. Initially, I had the wires swapped at the alternator, and this created a battery drain. Here's how I have the wires connected now. The original voltage regulator had the following four wires connected to it:
brown red white blue I purchased a jumper that plugs into the harness in place of the voltage regulator, and it connects the following wires together: brown to blue red to white The blue and white wires then run to the alternator and connect, as follows: blue - 1 white - 2 Another way to say this is: regulator brown connects to alternator pin 1 (uses blue wire) regulator red connects to alternator pin 2 (uses white wire) |
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I went with a 100amp one wire alt. This made things simple.
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have a place to hook up a warning light. I have a volt gauge in my dash instead of a amp gauge |
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