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flashed 09-10-2014 06:16 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Absolutely amazing work you do .

Bomp 09-11-2014 11:46 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Late to the party but Im here now.

Blown away by your sheet metal skills.

theastronaut 09-16-2014 10:35 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dantimdad (Post 6837757)
Nice work!

I love mid century modern furniture. I build some when I get time.

Steven

That's pretty neat, do you have pics?



Quote:

Originally Posted by flashed (Post 6837999)
Absolutely amazing work you do .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomp (Post 6839798)
Late to the party but Im here now.

Blown away by your sheet metal skills.

Thanks!

theastronaut 09-16-2014 10:36 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Made a new side panel for the cowl.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...99930239_n.jpg


Test fitting the cowl panel with the inner rocker, hinge pillar, and pillar cover.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...68157814_n.jpg

dantimdad 09-16-2014 01:13 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
[QUOTE=theastronaut;6844905]That's pretty neat, do you have pics?


I'll have to dig around and find some. I have a bad habit of knocking out a woodworking project and then sending it off without taking a lot of pictures

dantimdad 09-16-2014 01:23 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
You can look at this pic to get an idea of the Mid century wall unit I built:

http://dantimdad.files.wordpress.com...9/wallunit.jpg

Check out the crazy fiberglass TV tray. I found a set of 6 at a yard sale for $1 each!

Steven

theastronaut 09-18-2014 01:17 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dantimdad (Post 6845095)
You can look at this pic to get an idea of the Mid century wall unit I built:

http://dantimdad.files.wordpress.com...9/wallunit.jpg

Check out the crazy fiberglass TV tray. I found a set of 6 at a yard sale for $1 each!

Steven

Nice!

theastronaut 09-18-2014 01:18 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Offset the end of the rocker where the B-pillar piece overlaps. This way the panels sit flush once they're welded together.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...74099033_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...95574229_n.jpg

theastronaut 09-18-2014 01:21 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Reworked the front of the rocker to blend into the A-pillar post.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...97181597_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...16397508_n.jpg


Upright section of the rocker was flared to round into the A-pillar.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...76578369_n.jpg


New section welded in and fitted.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...53119952_n.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...06536401_n.jpg


The gap will be lap welded to replicate the factory seam.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...03490513_n.jpg

MP&C 09-18-2014 02:12 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Nice! :metal:

Bomp 09-21-2014 12:45 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Every single detail is top notch.

theastronaut 09-22-2014 09:45 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MP&C (Post 6847922)
Nice! :metal:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomp (Post 6851168)
Every single detail is top notch.

Thanks guys!


Dad and I took a trip up to Dillard GA last Friday to check out a shop that specializes in Packards. Was able to take a ton of pictures and measurements of another '40 Convertible to make more accurate patterns for the floor pans. He also had factory pictures of a '40 Convertible so we'll be able to replicate the interior style correctly.

MP&C 09-22-2014 10:31 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
must.......have.......pictures........ :lol:

duallyjams 09-22-2014 07:06 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theastronaut (Post 6852165)
Thanks guys!


Dad and I took a trip up to Dillard GA last Friday to check out a shop that specializes in Packards. Was able to take a ton of pictures and measurements of another '40 Convertible to make more accurate patterns for the floor pans. He also had factory pictures of a '40 Convertible so we'll be able to replicate the interior style correctly.

got to spend the day with dad and go look at rare packards no that's a father and son day

Ol Blue K20 09-24-2014 08:58 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
To think I thought the 66 F100 was beautiful work. This one is handmade parts..awesome work.

theastronaut 11-12-2014 09:24 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Been making progress, just not posting it. The owner has been here the last two weeks to help out. He's been stripping panels and helping me get the body squared up.


You would have never guess what we found under the paint on the tail panel... :waah:

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...61876492_o.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...62304943_o.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...94850432_o.jpg



Same thing in the passenger side door jamb.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...08493129_o.jpg



Stripped the quarter to see how tall the patch panel needed to be made.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...16082551_o.jpg



Since the body had been off of the frame without proper bracing it was sagging pretty badly. We bolted up the doors to check how far off it was and the doors wouldn't close at first, they were overlapping the quarters. We adjusted the opening with the adjustable braces I welded in to get the door openings back into shape.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...44060690_o.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...57803455_o.jpg



Front half fitted to the cowl first, then tack welded in place.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...59292485_o.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...39121845_o.jpg



After leveling the body on the frame and adjusting the bracing to fit the doors.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...75129746_o.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...77293139_o.jpg



Once the body was back in shape I added more bracing to keep it in place. Definitely don't want it twisting out of shape on the rotisserie!

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...34405426_o.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...04006380_o.jpg


Made a few more patch panels.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...38638915_o.jpg

67ChevyRedneck 11-12-2014 09:36 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Really makes you wonder how nice some of the 20's-40's cars really are when you see them...

68Timber 11-12-2014 09:37 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Is that seam sealer under mud?

theastronaut 11-12-2014 09:54 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck (Post 6915189)
Really makes you wonder how nice some of the 20's-40's cars really are when you see them...

Yeah I know... its pretty scary.



Quote:

Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 6915191)
Is that seam sealer under mud?

It's brass/bronze? filler rod from brazing in metal on top of the original rusty panels.

duallyjams 11-12-2014 08:26 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
That's some serious bracing.

TBONE1964 11-12-2014 10:12 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Hi John,

As always I am inspired by the work you do. It is amazing your attention to detail even on parts that will never see the light of day when the car is assembled. It is a funny thing that this is your next project. A 1940 Packard 120 :) I am currently restoring a speedometer for a 1946 Packard Clipper and I am curious about the speedometer and gauges in this model. All I can tell you is that they built speedometers like clocks back in the 40's. They have certainly got more easy to repair as time went on.

I am also curious if the speedometer has a trip odometer and if it is reset by a cable?

By the way, I love the dinette set and if I was closer, I would try and talk you out of it ;)

Keep up the great work,
Take care,
Tom

Lokin4AReason 11-13-2014 09:23 AM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
impressive work and glad in seeing yet another one being saved ... esp. a packard =0)

theastronaut 12-29-2014 03:09 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by duallyjams (Post 6915894)
That's some serious bracing.

Well, it was seriously sagging! :lol: Didn't want anything moving around when we took the body off the frame.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TBONE1964 (Post 6916056)
Hi John,

As always I am inspired by the work you do. It is amazing your attention to detail even on parts that will never see the light of day when the car is assembled. It is a funny thing that this is your next project. A 1940 Packard 120 :) I am currently restoring a speedometer for a 1946 Packard Clipper and I am curious about the speedometer and gauges in this model. All I can tell you is that they built speedometers like clocks back in the 40's. They have certainly got more easy to repair as time went on.

I am also curious if the speedometer has a trip odometer and if it is reset by a cable?

By the way, I love the dinette set and if I was closer, I would try and talk you out of it ;)

Keep up the great work,
Take care,
Tom

Thanks Tom. First off, I apologize for the late reply. I don't have the speedometer available, and I didn't take the car apart to see how it worked either. Wish I could help you out with those details. The table set was in the back of a customer's van. We replaced a window regulator and spotted it and ended up trading for it. They had just brought it back from their beach house and was going to put in in storage, so it had seen almost no use.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Lokin4AReason (Post 6916430)
impressive work and glad in seeing yet another one being saved ... esp. a packard =0)

Thanks!!

yahoos 12-29-2014 03:28 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Wow. You have some serious skills. Keep the pics coming!

theastronaut 12-29-2014 04:20 PM

Re: 1940 Packard 120 Convertible Restoration
 
Been awhile since I updated this. We were waiting on a local fab shop to make new floor braces so I could go ahead and start welding in my new panels... but we weren't happy with the pieces they made. So all that time waiting was wasted. As rusty as the original braces are, they were still stronger than what the fab shop made. So we decided to patch up the original braces by reinforcing them with steel plate and bars.

3/4" x 3/8" bars that'll be cut and shaped to fit in the recess.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...19682790_o.jpg


Put an arch in the bars using our tubing roller.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...62050417_o.jpg



Some of the body mount areas were thin so I cut and bent 1/8" plate to reinforce them. Not pretty but they'll be between the brace and floor pans so they'll be hidden.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...61586413_o.jpg

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...69307831_o.jpg



We took the body off so the owner could change the transmission out to an original overdrive trans. He also took the center section out of the axle and had a new crush sleeve installed.


Once the body was back on I braced the right rear body mount to keep it from collapsing. I leveled the body on the frame so I'd have a good starting point to start setting up floor braces at the right height. I'll get the floor braces blasted, then weld in the reinforcements and start welding in the new metal.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...98986134_o.jpg


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