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N2TRUX 09-24-2017 08:31 PM

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The anticipation is finally over. Well, sort of. Chase at RideTech shipped me a total of nine boxes. The first batch was signature required, which makes sense considering the value of the shipment. Unfortunately FedEx made it beyond difficult to be present to sign, or pick the packages up at the terminal. The good news is I got most of my shipment. The bad news is I still have a box undelivered.

With a bed full of Ridetech boxes, I knew exactly how I was going to spend my Friday night. Chris was coming over and my good buddy Keith Stephens was coming to stay for the weekend. Not only was @n2billet bring a vast amount of knowledge with him, he was bring a bucket full of tools to make the job easier. He has a bad @ss Snap On air chisel that we were about to abuse.

Friday night was spent unpacking boxes and sorting parts. We did a full inventory of everything that Chase had shipped and discovered we had one box missing and had gained a box in the process. It turns out the box missing contained the upper control arms and coil over mounts along with all the related bolts and nuts.

TKCR 09-24-2017 09:09 PM

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Looks like Christmas came early!!

aggie91 09-25-2017 10:12 AM

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I have all the confidence in you, Chris and Keith that you will get this job done in plenty of time! Nice work so far.

1957 Chief 09-25-2017 10:52 AM

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Looks awesome! I can't wait to get my stack of boxes too!

Bubba

Custom.Chevy 09-25-2017 11:19 AM

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Are you going to mount the 4 link inboard of the frame or out side, inside allows for massive tires but outside is more stable. Do you have to cut out the factory coil pockets or cut a large hole to accommodate the coil over , and Lastly how much uptravel are you going to have on the coil over when sitting at ride height? Is the coil over going to limit the up travel or will the truck bottom out via cross member ,exhaust , ext ext.

85/Silverado 09-25-2017 11:51 AM

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It must be nice to have friends... And not live in the middle of nowhere so you can get help when you need it.
Can't wait to see the work in progress in case I want to try it.

N2TRUX 09-25-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1957 Chief (Post 8047534)
Looks awesome! I can't wait to get my stack of boxes too!Bubba

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Originally Posted by TKCR (Post 8047158)
Looks like Christmas came early!!

No doubt the excitement is huge. Especially when you have known about this for 2 months, but couldnt say anything.
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Originally Posted by 85/Silverado (Post 8047574)
It must be nice to have friends... And not live in the middle of nowhere so you can get help when you need it.
Can't wait to see the work in progress in case I want to try it.

Fortunately my nephew Chris lives nearby. He has bailed me out several times and is a fantastic assistant.

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Originally Posted by Custom.Chevy (Post 8047556)
Are you going to mount the 4 link inboard of the frame or out side, inside allows for massive tires but outside is more stable. Do you have to cut out the factory coil pockets or cut a large hole to accommodate the coil over , and Lastly how much uptravel are you going to have on the coil over when sitting at ride height? Is the coil over going to limit the up travel or will the truck bottom out via cross member ,exhaust , ext ext.

The RideTech 4-Link is a 100% bolt-on design with minimal cutting and no welding required. C-Notch brackets tie in directly with the upper crossmember, while link bar mounts use factory bolt holes in front along with factory axle pad mounting points.
This kit mounts outside the frame in the factory leaf spring position. There is plenty of room for clearance of 12" wide rims and tires.
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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8047501)
I have all the confidence in you, Chris and Keith that you will get this job done in plenty of time! Nice work so far.

Thank you sir. I couldnt ask for a more patient assistant than Chris is. Keith drove 4 hours to bring serious tools and a wealth of experience and knowledge.
Assuming I make it, the task would have been close to impossible without their help.

N2TRUX 09-26-2017 10:00 AM

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Saturday was a huge day on the "Scarlett gets a spring in her step" project. Keith and I got going early while Chris chased supplies. We unbolted the bed and removed the bumper and tailgate. We lifted the bed off to expose the stock suspension and went straight to work.

I'm sure a lessor quality air chisel might remove the rivets that hold the spring mounting brackets on, but it would be so much slower. Keith fired up his Snap-On and went in to beast mode. He popped the heads of quickly and the springs were on the floor on a short time.

With the springs and brackets out of the way we could focus on the C-notch. Templates are provided with a hole in the frame for a reference point. We used magnets to hold the template in place and punched or corner points. These were drilled out and the notch was marked. We used a Sawz-All with fresh blades to cut the notch out. All went well till I failed to double check for clearance behind the cut.

Chris and Keith had moved the brake line to clear for my cutting, but I failed to double check and didnt see that it had fallen back in place. When smoke rolled up while I was cutting, I know something was amiss. Be sure to double check before you make your cuts.

N2TRUX 09-27-2017 12:21 AM

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Now that the stock leaf springs and hangers are gone, Keith cleaned up a couple of other rivets still intact from exhaust and E brake brackets. As mentioned, we hung the templates for the C-notch and made the cuts. I dressed the cuts with a flapper disc to ensure no potential for fatigue cracks to get started.

We drilled bolted each end of the C-notch to cinch it in place, then used the 7/16" bit as a starter point for a 1/4" pilot hole. With all the holes frilled we filled them with the supplied 7/16" bolts, washers, and lock nuts. A bump stop was added and all bolts were double checked for torque.

While I cut the second side, Keith hung the front 4 link mount. We switched sides and I bolted it down while he hung the other one. With Chris drilling holes, chasing tools, and tightening down bolts, we had a pretty efficient tag team working.

JohnJ@RideTech 09-27-2017 07:56 AM

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Looking good!

aggie91 09-27-2017 09:41 AM

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Very nice. Glad to see you three working on it. That's how hot rodding should be!

N2TRUX 09-27-2017 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnJ@RideTech (Post 8049015)
Looking good!

Thanks John.
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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8049062)
Very nice. Glad to see you three working on it. That's how hot rodding should be!

I usually work alone, but Chris has been a blessing on these recent builds. Keith is a freaking machine and jumps right in with both hands.

1957 Chief 09-27-2017 10:14 AM

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I noticed you had the floor jack positioned near the front spring hangars while doing the c-notch. Was the frame flexing? Putting the blade in a bind while cutting? Or were you just being cautious?

Thanks,

Bubba

mcbassin 09-27-2017 11:00 AM

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Awesome progress! Keep up the good work Ken!

daddyjeep 09-27-2017 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX (Post 8049078)
Thanks John.
I usually work alone, but Chris has been a blessing on these recent builds. Keith is a freaking machine and jumps right in with both hands.

I have had a buddy of mine and his kid helping me out in the shop lately. it is amazing how much gets done with a few more hands.

N2TRUX 09-27-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 1957 Chief (Post 8049086)
I noticed you had the floor jack positioned near the front spring hangars while doing the c-notch. Was the frame flexing? Putting the blade in a bind while cutting? Or were you just being cautious? Thanks, Bubba

When your cutting a C-notch the frame is very vulnerable to bending until the notch is bolted in place. This is just a precautionary measure to prevent stress while installing the kit.
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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 8049106)
Awesome progress! Keep up the good work Ken!

Thanks Michael
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Originally Posted by daddyjeep (Post 8049159)
I have had a buddy of mine and his kid helping me out in the shop lately. it is amazing how much gets done with a few more hands.

It really makes a difference when they get in tune with your work style and know where tools are at. Its so much more effective when you work as a team.

82streetshow 09-27-2017 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX (Post 8049225)
When your cutting a C-notch the frame is very vulnerable to bending until the notch is bolted in place. This is just a precautionary measure to prevent stress while installing the kit.
Thanks Michael It really makes a difference when they get in tune with your work style and know where tools are at. Its so much more effective when you work as a team.

I also live in cypress and would like to check out the system on the rear one day if thats a possibility?

N2TRUX 09-28-2017 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 82streetshow (Post 8049327)
I also live in cypress and would like to check out the system on the rear one day if thats a possibility?

Well hello neighbor! I would love for you to come take a look. If your not going to Goodguys, give me a shout next week.:metal:

N2TRUX 09-28-2017 12:31 PM

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With the C-notch and bar mounts in place we bolted in the bridge. This ties the C-notch and frame together to give strength to the upper coil over mounting points.

Keith measured each bar to verify they were all equal in length. We will start with equal lengths and determine if any change to pinion angle is needed after its on the ground and has been cycled a few times.

With the hardware all in place we assembled the coil overs and adjusted the a neutral setting. The preload on the coils is set to -0- and the shock settings are dropped to their lowest point. This will change later, but for install everything is set to minimum. resistance

gringoloco 09-28-2017 02:45 PM

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Strange there's no bolts in the top/front of the notch. Is this meant to be able to bolt in without removing the bed?

Lookin' good!

82streetshow 09-28-2017 03:56 PM

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coming along nicely, I should be right behind you

rustytruck50 09-28-2017 07:42 PM

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Looks great! Enjoy watching the progress!

SCOTI 09-28-2017 09:56 PM

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Tick tock..... You guys are cutting it close 🤤

moregrip 09-29-2017 12:25 AM

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Looks fantastic! Are the rear shocks upside down?

N2TRUX 09-29-2017 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8049891)
Strange there's no bolts in the top/front of the notch. Is this meant to be able to bolt in without removing the bed? Lookin' good!

There are bolts on the bottom on the front end. The bed has to be removed to cut the channel cross brace.


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