CPP Drop Spindle Special
Hey Guys and Gals We here at Scotts Hotrods are offering you forum members a deal on the CPP Unofficial name "new school, old School" spindle which will accept your OEM rotor and it will move the wheel in 3/4" per side
$235.00 per pair and are ready to ship!:metal: http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...38767479_n.jpg |
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So these are for the 71/72 suspension?
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Are these the ones they called modular or something like that? If so I do need a pair to fit a 71/72 C10. Do they require any other parts? I was thinking they needed some sort of bracket? I have no idea =)
Let me know how to order these please. Mark |
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I think these are the brand new CPP spindles that use all OEM braking/suspension components. They do also make a modular design one but these are "stock" style. Also, is that price shipped? |
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What else would I need to put these and disc brakes on my 64? If You can put together a package deal on everything PM me please! Thanks Ray
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What is the amount of drop on these?
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The spindal is 2 1/2 dropped and these are made very well and all brake parts bolt in place with no issues and the price on them are $235.00 and shipping will be $40.00
we have access to 25 pairs now Justin |
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Do you have a link to these on CPP's website?
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Look good so far. I need a little extra room that's why I had my eye on the modulars. But if these move the wheel in the same amount as the modulars, I would rather have these.
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I want a set for my '68. What do I need to do to order?
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Do these spindles move each wheel in 3/4" over the stock 71/72 disc brake spindle (which would match 67-70 drum brake spindles), or do they move them back in 3/4" over the standard 2 1/2" drop spindles (which would move them back to the stock 71/72 disc brake spindle location)?
Do they use 71/72 ball joints and tie rod ends or 73-87 stuff? |
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2.You can use your stock ball joints if you want to with these spindals 3.Cpp does have ball joints for 63-70 71-72 73-87 Part number for 63-70 cpp 3010-6-2 71-72 cpp 3010-6-3 73-87 cpp 3010-6-4 These part numbers are for new ball joints and they are $100.00 for all 4 and this is a retail price and forum price on these will be $90.00 for the set Keep in mind these spindals will not push your track out all when you install them on your truck These spindals can only be used for disc brakes only The factory tierods can be used as well with the spindals or you can buy new ones if you would want to. Justin |
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When GM added disc brakes to the C10's in 71 they shifted each wheel out approximately 3/4" more than the drum brake spindles and they did the same with the 5 bolt rear ends to makes sure the front and rear had the same spacing. When drop spindles came around they pushed the wheel out an additional 3/4". My question to you is when you say "moves the wheel in 3/4" per side" is this in reference to the stock 71/72 spindles or compared to the drop spindles? Regarding ball joints and tie rod ends, the 63-70, 71/72, and 73-87 are all different parts and the spindles will be bored for one of the three, unless they offer three different spindles. I'm not trying to be a pain, but this information is important before I decide to order. Thanks |
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I believe CPP will make these in 3 different spindle versions.
I have yet to find the part numbers on the internet. Have you confirmed that "drop spindles" push the wheels out 3/4" per side? I've heard that for years,... but never confirmed it myself. Adding drop springs also increases the track width due to the lower a-arms being at a "flatter" angle. (more parallel to the ground) |
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I had a long talk with Mario today from cpp he confirms with there dropped spindals the track width will not get wider like other manufacture spindals he said the track is narrow 3/4 per side and it will not be any wider than the stock track is on your year of truck you have.Before I got off the phone with him today I asked him one more time and he told me again the track will not get any wider with there dropped spindals at all.
I am not repeating myself here I asked this question several times with him today on the phone and on friday with Jeff a few times as well.Jeff confirmed this with me to Hopefully this helps you all out. Justin |
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I think what member mahanian is trying to say is the 60-70 trucks have a narrower track with than the 71-87 trucks.
(only because they are drum brake trucks) So which track width do these match? 60-70? 71-87? In all reality,... it doesn't really matter. These trucks will always have a wider front track width. The rearends have always been narrower. The CPP "new" spindle will bring your wheels in 3/4" per side,... compared to all other drop spindles. |
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There are 3 differnt type of ball joints in those years.Last week in cookville tnn we installed a set of cpp dropped spindals on a buddys 65 and the ball joints had to be changed on his truck so they would bolt up.
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Yes you are correct and Mario at cpp told me today it will have the same track width as the stock truck does.As you know these are for disc brake trucks and all the trucks that have drum brakes will have to be upgraded to disc
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Ok thanks for the info. Basically on a 71/72 this will drop your truck without pushing out the track like most other drop spindles do (I'm pretty sure I have this correct lol). It will keep the track stock.
This means I cant use these because I want my track narrowed a little bit from stock. I believe their modular spindles do this. I will have to call CPP to make sure the modulars do what I think they do. Mark |
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While I didn't use CPP spindles, they are esentially all the same no matter where you get them with the exception of the "modular drop spindles." On my 4.5/6" drop on a '69, it widened the track width .75" on each side (1.5" overall). Just want to make sure people understand what will happen with pre '71 trucks before purchasing. Adding drop spindles to a pre '71 is not a 'stock option' thus they will not retain the same track width. |
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It kind of looks like a cross between the "Modular" and regular drop spindle. CPP's modular spindle had a 2" drop and the regular had a 2.5" drop. The modular spindle required disk brake bracket kit but this one is built in. If I can verify that these won't widen my 64's front track (drum brakes changing to disk) more than the 1/4" or so that the "Modular" spindle would I'm all over it.
Two quick questions: Will these work on my 64 with the 6 lug steel rally wheels (clearance between lower control arm and rim)? Can you run a dust cover on the behind the disks? Thanks |
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So a fella can run the 15x8 4"backspace rally with no rubbing issue with these new spindles?
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These are 2.25" drop spindles (according to Scott's). (see below) The spindle is not the issue. The contact point in the lower a-arm (balljoint area) and the rim of the 15" wheel. Trimming the a-arm will fix this. The regular "Modular" spindle from CPP is only a 2" drop. Those might clear,... but I don't know for sure. |
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Here is some more info from Jeff at cpp this morning on the phone.
The spindal you see here in the link forum special is a little over 2 1/4 drop spindal and they will allow you to bolt up your factory disc brakes you have or a aftermaket kits. This will allow you to bolt up the d52 calipers from wilwood as well. On ther moduler spindal it is for the guys who want to run a bigger brake in the front and this does not have a caliper bracket part of the spindal you will need to use the cpp bracket they offer for the bigger brake.This spindal is also a little over 2 1/4 drop as well per jeff at Cpp this morning. Hopefully this helps you all out a little more Justin |
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How many different part numbers are there for these spindles?
Just one? Most drop spindles come direct fit for the following years: 60-62 63-70 71-72 73-87 What year balljoints do these fit? |
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I am very interested in a pair but before ordering I would also like to know what ball joint fits this spindle/ or if there is multiple spindles, one to fit each set of years specific ball joints....
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Guess I'm impatient... I called Jeff.
These are not going to be a new line of drop spindles. They are replacing CPP's normal drop spindles and all part numbers will remain the same as the old. CP4S1=60-62 CP4S2=63-70 CP4S3=71-72 CP4S4=73-87 Jeff said the new spindles are lighter and a much cleaner casting. Now to get the funds:metal: |
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Nice work usmcchevy :metal:
Can you quote me a price on the CP4S3=71-72 shipped to 15227 Do you guys accept paypal? Thanks, Nate |
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(a different part number would have been alot easier) I'm sure there is a surplus of the old castings still. |
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To all please pm me or e-mail me at
justin@scottshotrods.com scotts@scottshotrods.com sales@scottshotrods.com Jon no longer works for Scotts Hotrods and you can call us at the shop to and we will take care of all Justin |
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Decided to save some more money up and get the modular drop spindles. Thanks for the info.
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So you know this spindal is great to use if you are using stock heavy 1/2 ton brake it with a 12 inch rotor and works great with bigger brakes as well. Justin |
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Big news here at Scotts we just got our stocking order in on Cpp dropped spindals
We have 70-72 in stock and they are ready to go We have 73-87 in stock and they are ready to go For all 63-69 these spindals are a week 1/2 out from being ready to ship We have orders going out daily Justin |
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One more thing to add for all we have some killer deals on complete disc brake kits with spindals as a complete package.For all who want to keep your 6 lug wheels we got you covered to.
Thanks for all orders this week Justin |
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Thanks for all the orders today guys we have ton of parts being shipped to our shop from cpp to take care of all you guys and gals.
Remember brake kits, dropped springs, dropped shocks, many more truck parts and we are getting all parts shipped out very fast from Cpp and we are buying in large qty to have in stock for fast shipping. Justin |
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We have a ton of more parts coming in next week from Cpp so shipping will be very quick and our prices are KILLER and we are here to support all on this forumn.
Justin |
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