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rechinca 02-19-2019 10:55 PM

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I like the idea of the build threads as it makes it easier to track what we all do when we set course on our builds. Plus we can link in our questions/issues from other sections of the board. I have been on it since July last year and figured it was time to get started my build documentation. I call him the Sloth because it’s not going to be a high performance crazy build (at this point) and it’s not going to be completed in a quick fashion.

Back story, I Gee up with these trucks and always wanted one. Six years ago my neighbor beat me to this exact truck and I have had to watch it just sit there as he sparingly used it to rehab a house. July last year he gave me first crack at it as he promised.

1971 C10, 350/3 OTT, Orange/White. Original engine/trans were gone replaced with engine/trans from a 72 Chevelle. No idea on the condition or specs other than it ran pretty decent and had Edelbrock intake and carb, but the rest was stock down to original truck ram horn manifolds and single exhaust. It had a new clutch, recovered seat, converted to power brakes, and a rebuilt column. Horrible decision by previous owner to rattle can it black and it needs some tin work. RH side needs rockers, cab corner, and both sides need a small section of kick panel replaced. Not a lot of work in size but it’ll give me a chance to learn to MIG.

A lot of work has been done with a lot to go. I will try and update with pics and links to my questions/other threads. Building a solid daily driver as time and funds permit. Not in a hurry, not paying someone else to build my truck, don’t have unlimited funds, it gets stuff done as time/money permits and my back can handle. Being medically retired with screw and rods in the back some days limit my ability to do certain items and part time work to supplement my build funds. That and is being done on a slopes driveway while my 80 Trans Am in the garage in pieces...already scolded on that one. So here it goes.

rechinca 02-19-2019 11:07 PM

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I have been buying up parts to be ready to do a lot of the work. Getting it running right, reliable, safe and the. Focusing on stuff like body work will be later. I am not sold on the rear axle, it has been replaced with a 12 bolt out of a different truck

Tell tale is the lack of the panhard mount built into the cast center section. It has a custom one installed with a mount added to the top of the RH side axle tube. I am not a welder so I will have to get the new perches and that panhard mount. I also have not cracked it open to see what the gears are or if it is open vs Posi. I also have not been able to locate any number on the unit to determine what it was sourced from. Those numbers should have been stamped right where the Panhard bracket is now.

rechinca 02-19-2019 11:35 PM

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Somewhere along the line it was probably wrecked as it has the 69-70 grille/bumper in it. And that is pretty hammered already. Not sure what way I will go with it when I replace it. I like all the different grilles they used and at the cost of them, I want to be sure what I want as I only want to make one purchase.

It does need either radiator support patched inser the battery tray or replaced. If I replace it I do have an interesting option. While working a job up in the Concow, CA area after the devastating fire that started there and then destroyed Paradise, I talked to a guy who was cleaning up his dads property. His dad didn’t make it out and was found deceased about 50 yards away from his burned out residence. He never stood a chance.

He had what was once a really nice GMC that was destroyed, but the front grille and bumper were amazingly nice and shiny. I offered to buy parts off it and he said just take what you want. Even if I didn’t use it at least it would still be used somewhere as the rest of the truck was just obliterated. And I mean warped panels from the heat. So I took the grille, headlight trim, fender trim, bumper and headlight buckets. I know it would mean replacing the radiator support and fenders but I don’t know. For right now they will become garage wall art with a story. Due to the fire damage I couldn’t tell what year the truck was, anyone tell me what year the grille itself is from?

rechinca 02-19-2019 11:56 PM

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Mission creep did hit a little more than I intended. It started with wanting to install the correct plug wire shields and brackets. I knew I had an exhaust leak and noticed a PO had installed gaskets behind the exhaust manifolds so I decided to remove them to pull the gaskets and facilitate access for plug wire shields and brackets. The manifold bolts were barely snug and the LH had a huge crack down the middle. Sourced a correct LH one and had the local NAPA store machine shop remove the studs and machine the mating surface. Not cheap but I wanted the originals.

New fuel lines, new water pump, needed a radiator, so why not keep going. Pulled the heater box for heater core, both inner fenders and 12 hours of scraping off a hardened waxy/cosmoline type material from all over the front suspension. Probably 50 pounds lighter now. Degreased the motor and repainted it in place as best I could.

rechinca 02-20-2019 12:03 AM

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On deck:
Media blasting brackets for alternator, the correct OEM booster bracket and braces, tune up, engine wiring harness (original was hacked and not hooked up to starter properly) and lots of odds and ends.

Redneck Rydes 02-20-2019 12:38 AM

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That rear end is a truck rear end,these were still used in the 73-77 trucks with no panhard bolt and leaf springs

Redneck Rydes 02-20-2019 12:51 AM

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All the numbers should be on the right side axle tube facing forward just left of the pumpkin

rechinca 02-20-2019 06:41 AM

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Redneck good info, I will check again this week for th Numbers, but that area has been ground down a bit. And you are correct, I meant to say different truck not car. The construction on the panhard looks decent in that it is centered as far as I can tell. The bar appears to have been an original type that was cut and sleeved. I’ll check again for the numbers and the. Post up more info.

notsolo 02-20-2019 10:34 AM

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Interior looks nice, not a high priority but you may want to try wet sanding exterior with 320 grit wet dry paper, once you break thru the black bump up to 600. Others have done this with great results.

rechinca 02-20-2019 12:43 PM

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notsolo thank you very much for that tip. Had not looked into how to tackle that aspect very far. I’d really like to bring back that hugger orange patina as much as possible. Received some info on things to try, but was waiting til it was at least running to go there. Although with the tons of rain we have been having I should have just used the opportunity to wet sand for free. Hopefully tomorrow I can get my media blasting cabinet hooked back up and get some stuff ready for paint. Valve covers will come off for blasting and repaint to match the motor. Debating on the intake. It’s really dirty so thinking about having it painted too.

notsolo 02-20-2019 01:57 PM

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Re-reading some posts about paint, some say don't sand it, caution, sand paper doesn't know old paint from new. Youtube, Research, ask at a paint store. Diffinitly start in a place not too noticable, you might find a liquid to remove only the top layer.

rjs53 02-22-2019 09:20 PM

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EZ Off cleaner, Works like a charm my truck had been stripped with a sander then primered black. Less than two cans to take it off. Basically washed it off with a hose and wash mit. Used the rest on motor and suspension. Its cheap and it works.

rechinca 03-10-2019 11:06 PM

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Most of the brackets and pulleys are now black. Lots of blasting, must have spent the better part of one day but lots of cleaned up parts.

Found some issues I am trying to correct. I already have the brackets and braces for the power booster mount. PO had his “mechanic” do the conversion with a cheap $20 flimsy bracket and “creative” welding to mate the pushrod to the original manual pushrod. Didn’t install the $6 boot and just left the gaping hole to the engine...explains the fumes and smells in the cab. Enjoy the pics and laugh.

rechinca 03-10-2019 11:15 PM

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Next dandy was the clutch linkage and bell crank assembly. No inspection cover, no fork book, push rod boot was torn in half. Missing bolt from the bell crank on the bracket I replaced a few weeks ago, but I noticed the push rod end into the bell crank is suspect. The rod looks okay, but the hole looks to be elongated. May be time to just get a new bell crank and new parts to rebuild it.

rechinca 03-10-2019 11:21 PM

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One of the few drives I ever did with the truck after I bought it, the alternator died and left me stranded at the red light. That is when I discovered the broken hazard light switch. The signals did not cancel either so I had ordered the correct red knob switch assembly. Wouldn’t you know it, I found that the PO’s “mechanic” had struck again. I don’t know how he pulled the steering wheel, but he messed up the steering shaft threads, so instead of fixing it he just left the nut securing the wheel off. WTH? Needless to say I broke out the thread file bar and a die and repaired it. Lost the after pictures, but this is the before.

Redneck Rydes 03-11-2019 09:49 AM

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Don' you just LOVE fixxing other peoples repairs,the nut missing from the shaft made me shudder,I would find the guy that did that,remove 1 of his nu$s and let him drive around like that

rechinca 03-11-2019 11:56 AM

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Redneck that is so true. While it is part of the journey we have and relationship we develop with our trucks, I agree with the whole statement you made. When it took about one turn with my puller to have the wheel fall off it reminded me to inspect everything. Old trucks or not, when a shady person does work (and the guy even charged my neighbor who is the nicest guy-no mechanical abilities) and charges someone nearly the going shop rate I get pissed. Needless to say there is a lot of undoing and correcting safety and other issues. It is part of why I am documenting what I find as there are those new to the hobby or those who are learning to work on these old trucks and maybe I can help others see what they need to look for as they go through their own trucks.

rechinca 04-23-2019 02:16 AM

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Been a bit so time for updates. Winter rains and new job kept me
Away for a while. Now I spent about 5 - 6 solid hours wrestling with it today. The frost thing I accomplished was setting the engine back on the perches. I had taken the bolts out to Access the engine mount pad bolts so I could run the plugs wires as the factory did. What a fricking nightmare to reinstall when you are working on a heavily sloped driveway! I’ll get pics of the plug wires and routing tomorrow.

Add to that was a couple of hours wrestling with installing the exhaust manifolds. Someone installed a really poorly made Y-pipe that had bad angles and improper bends. That meant a cutting wheel to extricate the exhaust pipes a bit and using some brute strength and pipe in the hitch to make the bends a little mor true.

Now what I do have pics for: I took apart the clutch bell crank or z-bar. I removed the clutch upper rod and lower pushrod first. I was prepared for some old cotter pins. Nope! What I found were wire staples used to install fence slat boards holding the swivel and rods in place! What in the name of horse crap are people thinking?!
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The rest of the assorted parts were just worn. Both felt washers that help seal dust and debris out of the tube of the bell crank were toast and the engine block bracket ball was worn with half of the o-ring missing. I cleaned it all up, degreased and hit them with the wire wheel on my bench grinder. The bell-crank and engine bracket will get sprayed clear and the bell crank will get all new seals, nylon washers, etc. The upper clutch rod will need the ends welded to build them up. They have some significant wear and I’m not finding any better replacements.

rechinca 04-25-2019 04:21 PM

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Sorry for the delay, pic issue on my end. Z bar (bellcrank) and clutch rod pics attached.

rechinca 04-25-2019 04:23 PM

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The remainder of the pics.

notsolo 04-25-2019 07:29 PM

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Great work restoring a nightmare hack/ hatchet half a$$ previous owners attempt to ruin your truck. Yikes. Your making progress, looking good.

rechinca 04-25-2019 11:21 PM

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Thanks solo! I’m hoping for a month out to begin driving again. It’s getting close, but between a new job and losing a whole week coming up to move the boy back from college for the summer, I am shooting for June 1st as a driver pending any more surprises. As naked as it is now I can’t see too many more problems.

Ol Blue K20 04-27-2019 04:16 PM

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I'm subbed to watch. Nice job so far

rechinca 04-27-2019 08:15 PM

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Needed to replace the clutch upper pushrod, or so I thought, until I read the posts about having the worn ends built up with weld to eliminate the wear groove. Being sans welder at my house (I know, I know deducting man-card points), I ran it over to the welding shop in town. Turns out $15 got it repaired and ground down to eliminate the worn out spots for hopefully years of future fun. I wasn’t able to pick it up Friday before they closed so Tuesday when I get back from my job out of town this weekend I’ll grab it and some pics to post. So for now, those of you with worn pushrods this looks to be a great solution. I’ll confirm and post more next week.

rechinca 05-01-2019 04:21 PM

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Finally a day off and got my clutch rod back. Looks good and he says he repairs these all time.

rechinca 05-01-2019 04:29 PM

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Thinking here (dangerous I know) but has anyone used a bronze bushing in here to help prevent wear? I know I may have to drill out the bell crank to give room for the bushing but since it’s all apart it would be a simple fix now.

rechinca 05-07-2019 11:25 PM

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Somewhat productive periods yesterday and today. My fan/clutch from Randy500 as well as a bunch or parts to rebuild my bell crank. Fan got degreased and blasted yesterday. Today it got its new satin black epoxy paint.

Bell crank and clutch linkages were reassembled and installed along with a clutch fork boot and new bushings in both ends of the shift rods. Kind of weird there is no slop, no wiggling no rattling now!

rechinca 05-07-2019 11:31 PM

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I plan on pulling the shift rods and trunnions off in a couple of weeks to wire wheel/blast and paint. I am out of time for this weekend (yeah my weekend is Monday-Wednesday this week) and next week I have to head to Northern Oregon to bring the boy home from college for the summer. Maybe then I can get my radiator mounts finished.

rechinca 05-21-2019 10:54 PM

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More parts on order but got some stuff cleaned up and a new one in from Wyoming and Harlow. My bracket at the end of the clutch pedal (where it hooks to the upper clutch rod) was just plain worn out. Harlow sent me an as advertised near mint one including the bolt and spring clip to secure the clutch rod! I also finally took apart the booster bracket, media blasted it and painted it up with VHT epoxy Satin Black. Looks pretty good I think.

rechinca 06-06-2019 04:17 PM

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Lots of little things done, tons more as I mission-creep 1 step forward 2 steps back. No pics on the first part, but what I have is a new to me 3 core radiator sourced and installed. Aftermarket rubbers for the radiator brackets suck. I ground a crap load off to modify the profile enough they would allow the radiator to sit in the support low enough that the 7-blade fan & clutch wouldn’t hit. It’s only in temporary right now as I have decided to install factory brackets/pulleys to give me PS. The manual box was shot and completely unsafe.

I didn’t want to install my refurbished PB booster bracket and booster yet as the firewall behind it was so ugly from a leaky master cylinder. Lots of surface rust. Add in a non-existent boot for the brake pushrod and a shot column seal and I felt it best to properly (or at least semi-half-assed) clean the firewall in that area and spray at least a 2’x2’ area back the factory orange. Which you guessed right, the steering column is now out and in the garage! It will be at least two weeks before I get back to her due to work and some house repairs.

I did get in the clutch rod bracket/connector at the end of the clutch pedal shaft. Beautiful part from a board member that required 2 minutes of bead blasting them some satin clear to make it ready to install. Hopefully some pics on my days off this week.

Lastly, purchased a Vulcan brand multi-process welder. It was about 30% of the new price with less than 3’ of flux wire used. TIG and stick attachments are still boxed up as well as the gas meter. Guy never used it, had his receipt and it was 4 months old. He needed money so I bought it with a decent helmet, gloves and jacket. Figured it was cheaper than a bargain basement MIG only so if I kill it learning how to weld I am really ahead of the game. Plus I have some small areas to tack up and weld shut I need to do before I reinstall the heater box and get the engine filled with coolant.

rechinca 07-26-2019 12:18 AM

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Been way too long since I have gotten any work done on it!

Had to do some wiring in the garage to handle the welder. The panel and breaker were already there but I had my compressor hard wired into it. Got that fixed, so I got some blasting done! I had some issues in my wiring gutter that needed attention. Namely, the dreaded rust through...mostly just some spots where the old seam sealer allowed water penetration and fostered rust in the three sandwiched layers. From what I can see it is mainly in the level of the inner cowl to firewall. My plan is to have my helper hold a copper welding spoon to the back side of the holes while I do some small tacks across the holes and fill them in. If it doesn’t work I will then have to try the fun task of welding in a patch in that channel and I really didn’t want to disassemble my cab. Although let’s be honest here, the column gauges and outer heater box are already removed so there isn’t much more to go.

rechinca 07-26-2019 12:26 AM

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Here is the view from the bottom side. I am trying to just get this solid enough I can stop my water leaks til I can afford the time and money to do the cab right. I realize I may end up just re-doing the effort later with proper metal replacement, but I need to get this sealed up somewhat right so I can seal the seam before winter rains get in the cab any more. I don’t have the indoor space to put this (Trans Am that is blown apart is occupying that now) to long term this project. If you have any advice or thoughts I’ll gladly take them!

rechinca 07-21-2020 05:48 AM

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Wow, it has been almost a year since an update?! Just goes to show the new job I took last year has kept me way too busy!

Right now, and for last several months, Sloth has languished in the driveway with no front sheet metal and the engine wrapped in layers of visqueen. Rust in the lower cowl has been cut out and the radiator support has been stripped and prepped for the Brothers patch panel to go in. Which also means I got a new toy in a Miller 215 Multi process welder.

Tomorrow the engine trans comes out so I can clean the frame for paint as well as remove the front suspension for powder coating. All new bushings and CPP modular drop spindles will be going back in. Thank goodness for work from home most days! Hopefully a driver again within the month!

rechinca 07-24-2020 08:01 PM

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Ok, disassembly went even more sideways last couple of days. Pulled the control arms and crossmember for detailing and powder coating after we pulled the engine and trans. More and more amazed at the idiot who worked on this previously to me.

Starter: top ear was broken but at least the grease and dirt buildup was holding the bolt in from the back of the bellhousing. Middle was good and snug, wait WTH is that third bolt???

Clutch: yep like the previous owner stated it had a new clutch recently, flywheel...waiting to hear back from the machine shop. It was UGLY with hot spots. Never understood why guys don’t get those done since they are that far into the trans removal. Oh yeah, missing two bellhousing bolts too. I mean all those threaded holes are just suggestions right?!

So as she sits in the driveway, Sloth is naked from the firewall forward.

rechinca 07-24-2020 08:03 PM

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Nothing like a driveway build.

rechinca 07-30-2020 12:45 AM

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More work done! Front part of frame is stripped to bare steel! Looks pretty good. A lot of Purple Power with a green scuff pad took the majority of 49 years or grease, grit and grime off (and some of the rust). Then hit it with a wire wheel on my angle grinder and it was almost perfect clean steel. I coated it with two coats of Eastwood Platinum rust encapsulator the. Two coats of Extreme Chassis Satin Black. Looks pretty dang nice! Love the way this paint lays and sprays out of the can.

rechinca 07-30-2020 12:50 AM

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Now for the question I didn’t want to ask. Here are some pics from the inside of the cylinders. I am thinking it’s a pretty solid “time to rebuild” issue. Let me know what you guys think. Keeping in mind I could stretch for a rebuild right now plus it’s out of the truck on a stand at this moment.

rechinca 07-30-2020 10:22 PM

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Gaining serious traction today. I bought a Miller Multimatic 215 to learn to weld for this project. Hadn’t tried it out yet so no time like the present! Fired it up and finished the patch on the passenger side of the radiator support. Not pretty and had a fair amount of grinding to do, but got good penetration judging from the back side. Practice makes perfect and I have a LOT of patches to do!

rechinca 07-30-2020 10:24 PM

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Forgot the pic...

Ol Blue K20 07-30-2020 10:35 PM

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That welder is gonna come in handy.


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