Auto Tilt Lower Column Bearing
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I have a 6x-72 era auto tilt column that required shortening for my custom application. I got the housing + shift tube whittled down to the length I need & ordered a 'new' lower column bearing kit from Crown Products (it's what popped up during my Google search) from Summit. In my search, I had 3/4" shaft included & it found #4487696K as the kit I needed. I looked it up & the consensus was it's a Jeep part that's common w/GM columns so I thought I found what I needed.
I got the part in & it's for a 1" shaft vs. the 3/4" I have. The bearing has no P/N etched into it & I'm not sure what 'type' of bearing it's technically called to help w/further searches. Basically, I need the same outer dimensions w/a 3/4" ID. Any info/insight available? |
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If you can’t find the correct bearing,... could you machine a 3/4” x 1” bushing instead?
Surely the correct bearing is out there. |
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I'll PM you the phone number of a guy who rebuilds columns
He may be able to help |
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I was originally hoping/planning on the CPP 'Column Saver' kit to clean-up the end of the column based on the final product Gringoloco completed for his truck. But, by the time I trimmed the outer column housing & the shift tube to length, there does not appear to be enough material (& my plan was to even trim that set-up shorter). I've found alternative options but they were mainly for guys modding floor shift columns so their method may/may not work since the end of my column tube & shift fork are in close proximity. Keeping it simple sounds appealing @ this time so I need to do due diligence finding a possible alternate bearing before moving on to custom. |
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I was recently looking for the same bearing with no luck. Let us know what you find out
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you need to buy this kit and it will have your bearing in it. AC Delco GM part number 3981935
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The kit I purchased from Crown for <$20 would work except the bearing is the wrong ID. Seems weird the correct size bearing is 2x the price of the Crown kit on the budget end & as high as $90ish on the higher end (some were even more). Thanks for that info. I was going to reach out to you but wanted to do the basic searching/homework before bothering someone. |
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Summit has this kit also. ACDelco GM OE Steering Shaft Components 3981935
$31.99 so it says but only fits 82 and up. So my question has anyone bought it and tried it, did it fit?:chevy: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-3981935 |
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Since there are different shaft diameters, it would be better to confirm the bearing ID vs. an online source saying "it will fit". |
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OD 1" = 25.4mm. I think if you could find one it would work but finding it is seeming to be the problem. All the 3/4" ID bearings I found had a 1-3/8" OD. I chatted with Lily bearing tech support. He said he would be back in touch with me Monday on a answer to this bearing. |
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I went to a local bearing house this afternoon & they said I'm not going to find a bearing to fit that plastic insert. They said I could convert to a full size bearing set-up though (eliminating the OE arrangement) but would have to figure out the way to secure it in place.
He recommended the path I was expecting to take if they couldn't help: A) Find a bushing for the 1" to 3/4" gap to use the 'new' bearing. B) Clean & lube the old bearing w/the new plastic insert (he agreed w/me that the new bearing feels like a piece of crap vs the 40yr old bearing). |
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That probably will be the best way to go. Lily bearings make custom size bearing. It maybe worth seeing how much they charge to make say 10-20 of them and sale. I'd be interested in a few for my 2 columns.:chevy:
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Well here is what I got back. What do you think SCOTI?
Dear Andy Fisher, Thank you for your inquiry,We appreciate your interest in our company very much. According to your demand, we would be pleased to help you. According to the size, we can provide and also have made this size, 3/4" ID, 1" OD, 5/32" Width. We have checked your picture and can confirm that this is a full complement ceramic ball bearing . Can I confirm with you about the material of the inner and outer rings? This also looks like ceramic material. Please confirm. The cost of ceramic bearings is relatively high. What is your budget for each bearing? Maybe we can provide more suggestions. Please feel free to contact me If you have any questions. I'm looking forward to your reply. Best Regards, Mila Lv sales9@lily-bearing.com Teal:86-21-54331360 86-21-51028316 ext:8028 Fax:86-21-51010235 |
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I checked Lily out online after reading your thread reply but didn't see anything specific & figured it would require a more detailed inquiry. Thanks for reaching out to them. Interesting reply from them & I'm curious what they consider as "relatively high"? If it's a plug & play bearing that can be used w/the rebuild kits other parts, it may be worth the cost. But, there are rebuild kits out there already for $70-$90. I didn't purchase one of them for the exact reason I'm unhappy w/what I did purchase (spending almost $100 for crap parts vs. $30). At least w/the kit I got the plastic piece & retainer clip justifies the ~$30 price. It was a gamble hoping the bearing was decent. I didn't expect it to be the wrong size as well as being poor quality. What would you be willing to pay for a plug & play bearing? $20-30ea (per bearing)? I will also include the info that Summit Racing sent me a follow-up e-mail as a result of my 'product review' that was requested & posted to their site for the "Made in USA" Crown 4487696K Lower Bearing Kit. They asked if I would like to return the kit for a full refund since it has not been installed. My original plastic retaining piece is broken & there was no spring clip on my set-up so I still need those pieces & will keep what I paid for. My original bearing feels fine w/just a quick/mild cleaning (& w/o lube) so it will work if a decently priced alternative can't be sourced. Others may not be as lucky as I was in this instance so having a known quality source on a 'plug & play' bearing would be a benefit. |
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I assume this will work since it says tilt or non-tilt: https://www.ecklers.com/chevy-or-gmc...-340085-1.html
Edit: Unfortunately it says out of stock I stopped by Classic Heartbeat and talked to Wes a few months ago looking for column bearings. He was out of stock and said the bearings, uppers and lowers, were all on backorder. |
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So this was a follow-up response about the lower bearing inquiry sent to board member Andy4639 & forwarded to me:
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Would anyone want a higher-end ceramic bearing over a steel unit? What do you think of the price break-down for the small production batches? Please advise..... |
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Did you ever get this figured out? Classic Parts of America has them in stock. Just got my upper and lower bearings in yesterday.
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My lower bearing (& upper) worked fine w/some clean-up & fresh grease. The original lower column bearing was light years better vs. the aftermarket part I purchased. |
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