CPP front Coilover Kit
Is anyone running the CPP front coilover kit? Looking for some feedback. Thanks
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I don't have it, but I haven't seen any real performance gains from it by those that do. In fact, I learned years ago to just stay away from anything from CPP.
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I understand there are better options than CPP. I have looked at QA1 and RideTech both. As well as CPP. The Coil Over conversion front suspension is very similar in design with some Geometry difference's and such by all 3 companies. What is the specific downfall of CPP? Geometry? Materials? |
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Here's what I'm seeing. Ridetech may be the most expensive coilover conversion kit, but they have done extensive R&D and their stuff works very well with lots of victories to show for it. QA1 seems to have a well made product, but I've not seen any major competitiveness from any of their products. They talk the talk in their advertisements, but nothing to back it up yet. CPP.....well....they seem to be a bandwagon company. They just copy what others have done with no R&D to make sure anything works. The front is not a true captured coilover shock unit. Also, the shock and spring is way too short for any travel gains. The control arms are the same generic stuff they've always offered made to stock geometry specs, so there's still no gain in camber/caster/motion ratio. The rear system simply replaces the shocks with coilovers, but all in the stock location. In case you haven't heard by now, the rear shock location on the 63-72 trailing arm setup is an absolute horrible design. It was fine for guys hauling hay, feed, and seed for farm use in the 60s-70s, but there's no gain in the performance aspect. The design actually binds under certain conditions. Let's not forget the terrible customer service from CPP that's actually been discussed already. I try to tell people to shop around and RESEARCH before buying. Yes, some kits may be more expensive, but sometimes, you're not just buying a name, you're buying the time they took to make sure it's right. I'll also add that everything TCI makes is made in house at their Ontario, CA, USA facility with USA steel. Nothing is outsourced from other companies and/or countries. |
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I am not adverse to spending $$$$. I bought a Flat Out Engineering crossmember and then sourced all the parts less the rack and pinion. All only to find out you have to raise the engine up, which will kill driveline angles. The other option is pushing the engine back into the firewall like Dustin Reed did with this suspension and his C10. While this works its not 100% ideal for me. Still not out of the question though. Hunter Beacon's C10 runs the QA1 C10 Suspension. Met him at the Pro Touring Truck Shootout in Bowling Green. He was running in the T2 class and the truck was very impressive for a bolt on suspension. I did discuss some improvements he was planning. I have seen RideTech on plenty of trucks. No doubt it works. I was leaning towards their front Coilover conversion and No limits Trailing arms rear suspension. Your description of CPP hits the nail on the head. Maybe okay for a cruiser... |
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The CPP tubular arms do offer geometry improvements; it's just not in how the arms are 'built'. Their geometry improvement appears to be obtained the same way you would get it from stock lower control arms.... By shifting it forward. When I looked @ their install info, I could see the distance variation (fore/aft) of the control arm shaft vs the x-member in images. So there is a benefit of additional Caster but it's nothing one couldn't get w/their stock arms as well. |
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Yet another reason for me to not care for the kit I will admit their a-arms aren't 'bad'.... I just feel the tech about them offering geometry benefits is misleading since they basically come with 'The Caster Mod' done for you which = tubular versions of stock arms :rolleyes: |
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Of course, then there's the full bolt in suspension kits like TCI, NoLimit, Porterbuilt, etc. These can offer lots of advantages over simple swaps, and pretty much always include rack and pinion steering. It just comes down to budget, goals, and preference. Quote:
I've struggled this season due to lack of seat time. Also, only being on 275 tires compared to so many on 315's and 335's kept me in the underdog position. That will be remedied in a few weeks. I just got 18x11 Rocket Attack wheels for my truck. Quote:
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My son is probably going to do a TCI torque arm configuration on his 84. |
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I am very happy with the CPP setup. I just called and got their lower arms for coilovers so I can have the complete set of tubulars. My truck is just something to drive to work and hang out.... no track time etc. I think CPP meets what I am looking for.... the Viking shocks are nice. When you break it down... nice shocks and tubular arms that are better than stock.... If you do not need tech support... this is a good option...
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