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400/400 03-17-2015 07:35 PM

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I've had good results sealing China walls on a couple of engines with "The Right Stuff" made by Permatex. I got the aresol can which makes application a bit easier than the roll up tube.

Jake Wade 03-17-2015 08:11 PM

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http://www.summitracing.com/search/b...oview=SKU&ar=1

As mentioned, clean, clean ,clean with laquer thinner or brake cleaner on china walls and intake.

Gregski 03-18-2015 02:37 AM

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decided to rub the belly of the hood a little bit today, going to clean it up and POR15 it black to keep the cost down

Gregski 03-18-2015 11:54 PM

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POR15ed the belly of the hood, here's what it looked like before the gnats found it

y5mgisi 03-19-2015 01:38 AM

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Looks super good!

77K10Silverado 03-19-2015 12:27 PM

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jammin'!

68Timber 03-19-2015 12:48 PM

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I've never used POR but every time I see it online it looks great - I've got to get some and try it.

Gregski 03-19-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 7097143)
I've never used POR but every time I see it online it looks great - I've got to get some and try it.

Actually it always looks like glass when wet then it dries all blotchy, I will try to take another pic of the hood and show you once it completely dries. I do not know what causes this.

I was wondering if it dries different over shinny clean metal vs rusty sections, or paint covered sections, I don't know. Though I did check some parts that were same surface ie clean metal and it still dried shinny in one area and flat in the other.

I even called POR15 the company and told them about this issue, and they basically said sometimes it just does that.

rusty76 03-19-2015 04:09 PM

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Must have something to do with the way it flashes. Looks good either way.

Zayzay 03-19-2015 06:45 PM

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Wanted to say that I have learned a lot from your thread and everyone's input. Wow, amazing work.

Titomars 03-19-2015 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7097193)
Actually it always looks like glass when wet then it dries all blotchy, I will try to take another pic of the hood and show you once it completely dries. I do not know what causes this.

I was wondering if it dries different over shinny clean metal vs rusty sections, or paint covered sections, I don't know. Though I did check some parts that were same surface ie clean metal and it still dried shinny in one area and flat in the other.

I even called POR15 the company and told them about this issue, and they basically said sometimes it just does that.

Are you doing two coats Greg? I get the blotches with the first coat. the 2nd coat always comes out great. Also 2 coats give it the sprayed on look.

cnorth 03-19-2015 08:37 PM

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as for the POR when I was buying mine on Summit there is a semi gloss and gloss could that be it

Gregski 03-19-2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Titomars (Post 7097654)
Are you doing two coats Greg? I get the blotches with the first coat. the 2nd coat always comes out great. Also 2 coats give it the sprayed on look.

done, both, went two coats on my Mustang firewall and engine bay and it came out blotchy, went single coat on the truck oil pan it came out blotchy, the hood so far is only one coat and it is blotchy

Gregski 03-19-2015 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cnorth (Post 7097796)
as for the POR when I was buying mine on Summit there is a semi gloss and gloss could that be it

I used both before and talked to the POR15 support staff about this and both products do weird things, the gloss stuff is dull in places and the semi gloss shines in places, so far no rhyme or reason, though as with anything I do, the first thing I do is blame myself

Gregski 03-19-2015 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zayzay (Post 7097569)
Wanted to say that I have learned a lot from your thread and everyone's input. Wow, amazing work.

Thank you, yes the guys n gals on this forum are amazing very positive and supportive.

cnorth 03-20-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7098137)
though as with anything I do, the first thing I do is blame myself


Ha that's funny, I get blamed for everything at work.

rusty76 03-20-2015 04:54 PM

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Mind if I blame you? Just kidding.

Gregski 03-20-2015 10:16 PM

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after soaking the hinges in a large toperwear bin and some diluted muriatic acid with water for a couple days, I dried them off and washed them off with denatured alcohol, then rattle canned them flat black

Gregski 03-20-2015 10:19 PM

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and the backside of the same hinge, the other one missed the photo shoot, lol

so, is there a man or woman on this forum that can work these off the truck, I mean move them open and close, I swear it is a Herculean effort

Chaplain 03-20-2015 10:21 PM

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Dang...

Chrispbrown36 03-20-2015 10:31 PM

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Every time I pull something off to work on the truck and start knocking the rust and grime off of it I think, "What would Gregski do?".....and then I give up after cleaning for a second or two...ha ha. I am impressed with your attention to detail.

Motherfrog402 03-21-2015 12:04 AM

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Greg, get your buckets mineral spirits and muriatic acid, load up Rusty, head up the I-5, over to I-80, up Hwy 93 and over to I-84....Rusty's cousin, Greasy, needs some love.

Great job on the hinges.

Gregski 03-21-2015 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrispbrown36 (Post 7099473)
Every time I pull something off to work on the truck and start knocking the rust and grime off of it I think, "What would Gregski do?".....and then I give up after cleaning for a second or two...ha ha. I am impressed with your attention to detail.

Yup, years of trial and error and absolute failure, so my new motto is work smarter than harder. If you break things down into smaller projects then you will end up with a routine. Routine means repetition and a system. A routine can be refined and tuned.

Trust me I want instant results too, I am a lot of things but a patient man I am not. I also have a tough time focusing trust me, I want to do 7 things at once all the time, but I say Rusty teach me patience. LOL

In this case I took the hood off and said this will be it, I will not mess with anything else. Then I said ok, one hinge comes off cause I have to take the fender off anyway. Then I said shoot I can't do one hinge and leave his brother dirty and rusty, that's in human. In the end the only thing I did not remove was the hood latch hookie thingie in the front cause those bolt heads were not quite 1/2 inch type but some star looking thingies so I said enuff this stays on, LOL

Gregski 03-21-2015 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Motherfrog402 (Post 7099593)
Greg, get your buckets mineral spirits and muriatic acid, load up Rusty, head up the I-5, over to I-80, up Hwy 93 and over to I-84....Rusty's cousin, Greasy, needs some love.

Great job on the hinges.

Thanks, where is that? dang Idaho?

Chrispbrown36 03-21-2015 12:28 AM

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The problem I have is I will start on one thing and then while unbolting this or that I think well I might as well do this while I am here.....prioritizing......I fail at.

Titomars 03-21-2015 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7099598)
Thanks, where is that? dang Idaho?

Hah!!! I am a lot closer. Just hop on the 80 south to 37 west then 101 north. Mine is neither rusty or greasy. But with your attention to detail, my truck and me would enjoy it immensely. ;)

Gregski 03-21-2015 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrispbrown36 (Post 7099612)
The problem I have is I will start on one thing and then while unbolting this or that I think well I might as well do this while I am here.....prioritizing......I fail at.

See I don't have a problem with doing something again because I tell myself ok, so you replaced the intake manifold gasket once, whooptie do, you bolted it back up refering to the book cause you don't even know the torque sequence. Yes you also replaced the lifters cause you said well I already have the intake off anyways.

On the other hand I replace the intake gasket one month and put it all back together. Then six months later I go back in and now replace the lifters. Now I removed and put the intake back on twice. I pretend I am a mechanic and now I worked on two trucks that came in one for intake manifold gasket leak the other for a stuck lifter. So now I got twice the experience. I had to drop the dizzy in twice and the first time I missed it by a tooth the second time I got it right. The second time I knew how the throttle linkage went back on without refering to old pictures, and now I know the bolt sequence by heart.

It is a bit of a silly game I play with my mind, but you have to figure out a way to prioritize to trick yourself if you have to.

Chaplain 03-21-2015 02:45 AM

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What's your mixture ratio on the muriatic acid bath?

Gregski 03-21-2015 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaplain (Post 7099722)
What's your mixture ratio on the muriatic acid bath?

first be very careful wear a respirator and eye protection and heavy rubber gloves

I use 100% if it will cover the entire piece, otherwise for bigger pieces I just use a garden hose and keep poring water in the container until the entire piece is submerged, it is not an exact science

I put a lid on what ever plastic container I am using, and I do it outside not indoors

at 100% I dip for a couple hours, when I add water it can be in there over night or for a couple days, take the metal out from time to time to check on it to see if it is done if all the rust is gone, maybe hose it off check it and put it back in

greg64 03-21-2015 09:04 AM

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Greg, I like the results you're getting with the acid bath, but my question is what do you do to dispose of the leftover acid/water mix? That's the part about chemical treatments that I don't like. Great looking hinges!

cnorth 03-21-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7052182)
wait what, he's making a sandwich, this fool has lost his mind, we don't need to see his eating habits...

Wait a minute, oh no he didn't!

I was hoping this would work for me since the bushing puller I had would not fit ended up finding a long bolt and hammered and twisted it into the bushing and slid my hammer slider on to it and yanked it out

Chaplain 03-23-2015 11:51 PM

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Don't stop now.

Gregski 03-24-2015 12:59 AM

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as if you need telling, the only thing worse than that Self Etching primer from Harbor Freight is their "Filler" primer and I use that term loosely, it covers horribly, well unless you are into painting tigers or zebras, or tigers chasing zebras, well you get the idea - stay away from it if possible

so I bondoed the rust holes (not proud of that) sanded it down and shot it with build / filler primer in hopes of block sanding the hood to get it ready for paint this weekend

Gregski 03-24-2015 01:10 AM

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what else is going on in Camp Rusty?

well I fingered out why my truck ran real bad under acceleration although it idled perfectly after this most recent intake manifold gasket replacement, I swapped the #5 and #7 plug wires, thank you very much, so now it runs good

I still have that pesky rear wheel locking up on me although I replaced both rear wheel cylinders, so this weekend I think I am putting on new shoes and either turning the drums or putting on new ones

then I think I need to replace the square bearings in my power steering pump, and clean that area of the engine bay a little bit (ok a lot) so I can see what if anything leaks from there

and just went in the garage and checked on the oil leak from todays test drives and yup there's one, the size of my hand, nice, awesome, progress = zero

so The Greg is in a bit of a funk, nothing a glass of white wine can't cure, [ahem] I mean a cold one, a beer people, a beer

Chaplain 03-24-2015 06:56 AM

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Ok

crashz 03-24-2015 04:10 PM

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For some reason I read that as "a can of wine". It's a Tuesday after all.

Actually I like that idea. For us dignified hooligans that want to join in with our friends, swilling booze, but have a refined palette!

rusty76 03-24-2015 06:20 PM

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You might want to check and make sure your brake lines in back are good. I had a bad brake hose up front once and it would lock up the front caliper. Thought it was the caliper but it was the hose. Live and learn. Well if you're in a funk take the day off and enjoy a cup of joe. It'll all clear out.

enaberif 03-24-2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7103552)
what else is going on in Camp Rusty?

well I fingered out why my truck ran real bad under acceleration although it idled perfectly after this most recent intake manifold gasket replacement, I swapped the #5 and #7 plug wires, thank you very much, so now it runs good

I still have that pesky rear wheel locking up on me although I replaced both rear wheel cylinders, so this weekend I think I am putting on new shoes and either turning the drums or putting on new ones

then I think I need to replace the square bearings in my power steering pump, and clean that area of the engine bay a little bit (ok a lot) so I can see what if anything leaks from there

and just went in the garage and checked on the oil leak from todays test drives and yup there's one, the size of my hand, nice, awesome, progress = zero

so The Greg is in a bit of a funk, nothing a glass of white wine can't cure, [ahem] I mean a cold one, a beer people, a beer

Fingering your truck is bad and why it probably gives you headaches. If you figured it out then it probably wouldn't be so mean to you.

Gregski 03-28-2015 12:21 AM

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figured I would show off my hood hinge exercisers aka the Pro Mark 3000 Plus while I build up the primer coats to sand down on the hood (in the background)

now I'll admit it I'm not strong enuff to manipulate those darn hinges by hand so I had to turn to Physics, anyway I lubed them up with some White Lightning Grease so I wanted to open and close them a few times to work that in

Gregski 03-28-2015 12:25 AM

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for the life of me couldn't get the 4 amp fuse out of the black wire that runs from the bulk head connector box to the starter without breaking it in half and having both ends end up stuck in the black rubber fuse holder

add to that the fact that my Parts Houses carry (and I kid you not) 1, 2, 3, 5, 7.5, etc. fuses and not a 4 amp one, and I decided to punt on the mini glass tube style and replace it with a manly PINK flat blade one

did the same for the black and white AMETER wire

spliced those in with some wire crimpers and those blue chinese hancuff looking connectors


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