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here is a little trick, you can use paper towels to keep the acid from running off the piece you are trying to treat and maintain wetness longer

you know me and paper towels, LOL their not just for cleaning up dog pee off the carpet, JK

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alright here are the results after the second treatment, not bad, we are slowly getting there, but as predicted it is going to take a third one

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good thing I decided to go to bare metal cause I think there was rust lurking underneath the green paint, now it's hard to call it since the primer was black and the rust spots were black, so we took a wire wheel to them and then even an orbital sander for a quick pass with each, then back to a final acid coat and our new friend Mr. Wool... Steel Wool

lots of work, but not bad at all

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so I was in a take it apart kind a mood this Sunday morning and took the hood hinge off (one side only, Gregie style) in order to take the fender off to replace it

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some parting shots of the old rusty fender, anything not to work on the rusty hood, lol

and she's off, as even more crud falls to the garage floor... Dusty? Dusty where are you? Suck this stuff up right now...

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and a little side by side action

Old Fender (left)

New Old Fender (right) OEM none of that after market "over seas" beer can thick holes misaligned stuff for Rusty, nothing but the best, LOL

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Looks good!

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It's funny but I second thought the acid after I posted that....lol.

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It's a shame the fenders are made as they are. They pack up with crud behind there and rust out. My driver's side isn't so good, but I already have a replacement.

So the truck is called Rusty, and the shop vac is called Dusty? Too funny :lol:

Are you cleaning up the hood hinges while the hood is off? Man, those hoods have lots of area, don't they. Seemed like I was sanding forever when I painted mine.

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Don't ask what I call the Ol' lady then?!

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always bag and tag your bits, yes today it makes sense where they go, but how about two soccer tournaments, a gynastix regional, a black belt promotion, one wedding and two funerals (for goldfish - don't ask) later, will you know where they go then?

as a bonus I like to soak 'em in - you guessed it PB Master Blaster... or [wait for it] Mineral Spirits

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Yup no one at GM got a Nobel Pizza Slice for that design

and now for a General Motors Think Tank Flashback

[Engineer #1] Bob I hear you, yes that will make the fender indestructable but won't that make a pocket for water and crud to collect in

[Engineer #2] Yeah sure, but it will take years for that Pittsburgh steel to rust through

[Engineer #3] It will never happen, steel like that won't rust for a quarter of a century if not more, not like anybody is going to be driving these trucks in 40 years

[All Together] No doubt, lets keep that design!

Re: Restoring Rusty - New Old Fender Mounted
 

New [Old] Fender - Money Shot

... best part ~ No Badge!

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Greg, that's exactly what I do; labeled ziplock bags. When I take the parts off I figure I'll remember exactly where they go. After about a year, I looked at some of my suburban bags and thought "huh?". Good thing they were labeled.

Re: Restoring Rusty - New Old Fender Mounted
 

Which do you want first? The good news or the bad news? :lol:

The good news: the fender looks great compared to what came off.

The bad news: the door now looks a little worse then it did before.

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hey Greg will that acid that you bought from Home Depot work on door panels,trying to get rid of the PO's attempt at painting so I can duplicolor other all my stuff

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Hi Chris, (I hope I recalled your name proper) I would not use it on plastic as it would eat it, there is special paint remover for plastic may be a sister product of Air Craft Remover, check your local Pep Boys or any other parts house. Also do NOT use Acetone, that will eat them also.

You could try Denatured Alcohol, I think that might could work, but be careful with it.

Re: Restoring Rusty - New Old Fender Mounted
 

True, the doors may get a fresh coat when I remove them to rehang em, the door gaps are redunculous right now, definitely not SEMA approved, LOL

SEMA - Someone Else Made this Automobile, LOL, I just came up with that, can you think of some good ones

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thanks man I'll look for that stuff at pepboys gotta find some door clips anyways I don't know what this guy used but yeah anyways

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sorry I got the dreaded sideways pictures from my phone

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SEMA - spending extreme money amounts

Door gaps? - it's a truck! :lol:

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We used model airplane fuel (nitromethane) to remove paint from our plastic model cars when I was a kid ('60s). I wonder about brake fluid, I seems to remove paint from everything it splashes on. I doubt the muratic acid would eat the door panels since it is packaged in plastic jugs but don't think it would remove paint either. Keep up the good work.

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I always try to bag and label everything but somehow almost always manage to forget. I did remember it when I recently refinished an old rifle, but then just a month or so later I somehow forgot to do it when pulling the dash and duct work out of my truck....somehow I ended up getting everything but one piece back in place and luckily the one piece I missed can be done without taking everything else back apart.....someday I will learn.

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Yup, I dread dash work, maybe I'm still recovering from that heater core replacement on my brothers '93 Volkswagen Corrado VR6, it made the space shuttle cockpit look like an etch a sketch ~ member those my pre smart phone brethren?

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In the same winter the heater core went out on a 2004 Ford Taurus that was my wife's and on my 2001 dodge ram.....I wouldn't touch either one of them. I didn't want to even think about jacking around with those dashboards.....we bundled up for car rides that winter...

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I like to bag the parts and then put a note card in the bag telling me what and where they come from. That way when I forget what I did with that part and find it the ink won't have faded or worn off the bag...lol.

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OK, finally got the entire hood done, no more rust, man lots of work to get here, lots of zero fun, hunker down and git er done

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found out Harbor Freight sells primer now, so why not try it on the hood, here is their IRON ARMOR Self Etching Primer, with their 20% off coupon a can was about $4 bucks so I bought one and had my son buy one

Re: Restoring Rusty - Priomered The Hood
 

I think a can is about a coat, so ended up doing two coats / two cans on the hood

the interesting thing is the first coat came out half darker gray half lighter gray, (second pic) did I not shake the can all that well to start, I don't know, or is this Harbor Freight special as always, LOL

first pic - just plain prepped hood

second pic - first coat of primer

third pic - second coat of primer

Re: Restoring Rusty - A Little Surprise
 

Rusty, Rusty, Rusty, sometimes I think you don't love me any more, I clean ya, I fix ya, I de-rust ya and this is how you thank me, this is what you've been hiding from me all this time

So what to do, what to do?

A. Ignore it, paint the darn thing green ~ IT'S A TRUCK

B. Ghetto bondo them holes and paint green over it - It's a truck!

C. Buy a new hood, do it right

D. Paint it green and weld it / fix it later [pronounced] never, LOL

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If it was mine, I would ghetto bondo it for now paint it and enjoy rusty. Then plan on a new replacement hood at a later date.;)

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I would do the same. I'm going to going for the patina look with my rusty old blue truck. However, I actually have a hood I'll give you. Drive on over to west TN and it's yours.

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Greg, the hoods are notorious for rusting there. I welded up my first hood, bondoed and painted and it was okay. But much later I found a hood with no rust (free!) that I cleaned up and repainted. I'd just do a quickie fix for now. Fix it later (if ever).

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Only because I don't want to paint, I am going to keeps rust and blue paint. That's why I have a hood and two finder to move along.

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If you do get the Performer, you can get the air-gap version if you will be keeping the air pre-heat tube on the air cleaner. So, 2101 is regular, 2601 is air-gap.

I think biggest thing with sealing up the one you have is 1) clean the mating surfaces with lacquer thinner to remove any oil or residue completely, and 2) anywhere you are using a sealer/cement/silicone, spread it on both sides of the gap you are sealing. You want the final assembly to only require that the compound seal to itself, and not to have to form a bond to a clean surface.

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Great tip as always Rich, thank you. Is compound to gasket ok, or should we be smearing compound on the gaskets as well?

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Always put compound on both sides of any gap you are sealing, so that would be both the metal flange and the gasket, then seat the gasket to the flange. That seating process will mate compound to compound, which is what you want.

I used TiteSeal (which is a non-hardening gasket seal product the fly-boys use) on both sides of my valve cover gaskets, so I had four surfaces to coat on each side.

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Your post about RTV sounds like you are using way to much lol.

When I put the intake on my truck I put just enough rtv on the head side so the gaskets would stick and then bolted it down.

For the china walls a good 1/4" bead down the walls and up the heads was all I did.

But before I did all that I ensured 100% that all surfaces were clean using acetone and smooth by using 120 grit sandpaper.

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I may have exaggerated, I smeared it on the head and the intake with my finger enuff for it to be tacky/sticky, so it's all good.