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70cst 05-25-2021 03:25 PM

Control Arm Rubbing tire - solution 101 - found
 
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I went to the alignment shop to look at where the control arm was rubbing the rim/tire. Found the issues and now I need to get two rims with 2 3/4-2 7/8 backspacing.

Now to find the best store to by two front rims.

SCOTI 05-25-2021 05:19 PM

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This is where most do some slight clearance work on the a-arm 'gutter'.

Lee H 05-25-2021 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8924875)
This is where most do some slight clearance work on the a-arm 'gutter'.

This is what I did before getting tubular A arms.

lolife99 05-25-2021 07:16 PM

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Typically a 3-1/2” backspace will clear just fine.
What does your clearances look like with the wheel straight and the weight on the suspension?

CastIron 05-25-2021 07:46 PM

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Does this only happen with dropped spindles? I've had 15x8 wheels (4" backspacing)on my stock height pickup for 20+ years and it doesn't rub.

SCOTI 05-25-2021 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CastIron (Post 8924928)
Does this only happen with dropped spindles? I've had 15x8 wheels (4" backspacing)on my stock height pickup for 20+ years and it doesn't rub.

Yes. It's common w/drop spindles.

SCOTI 05-25-2021 08:43 PM

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gmc684x4 05-25-2021 08:44 PM

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Some guys run a taller rim 16 or 17s is another way around this with drop spindles

70cst 05-25-2021 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 8924916)
Typically a 3-1/2” backspace will clear just fine.
What does your clearances look like with the wheel straight and the weight on the suspension?

It was suggested to me by the mechanic to get at least a 2 7/8 BS - I think I will go with 2 1/2 to play it safe …
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70cst 05-25-2021 08:57 PM

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I forgot to mention I do have a 2 1/2 drop
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SCOTI 05-25-2021 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gmc684x4 (Post 8924951)
Some guys run a taller rim 16 or 17s is another way around this with drop spindles

It's a back-spacing thing. So even w/larger diameter wheels, it takes a combo of the right back-spacing & diameter to clear otherwise the contact just happens farther out/back on the arm.

SCOTI 05-25-2021 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 70cst (Post 8924957)
It was suggested to me by the mechanic to get at least a 2 7/8 BS - I think I will go with 2 1/2 to play it safe …
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It's possible certain wheels have limitations on minimum back-spacing. Double check the clearance w/full weight on the suspension before spending money & time on it.
This is why grinding a little off the arm lip is common.

lolife99 05-25-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 70cst (Post 8924957)
It was suggested to me by the mechanic to get at least a 2 7/8 BS - I think I will go with 2 1/2 to play it safe …
Posted via Mobile Device

IF you could find a 7” or 8” wide wheel with a 2-1/2” bs it would stick way outside the fender.
Just my opinion,... but that would not be a good look.

davischevy 05-25-2021 09:32 PM

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I have run 15x7 rallys with dropped spindles with no rubbing..

70cst 05-25-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 8924978)
IF you could find a 7” or 8” wide wheel with a 2-1/2” bs it would stick way outside the fender.
Just my opinion,... but that would not be a good look.



Thanks

Never thought of that.

I did find a wheel with 2 3/4 BS.

70cst 05-25-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by davischevy (Post 8924980)
I have run 15x7 rallys with dropped spindles with no rubbing..

15x7 vs my 15x8 could be the issue.

Boog 05-26-2021 07:21 AM

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If you are just dead set to not trim the control arm try this. Remove one wheel and stack 1/2" of flat washers on three of the wheel studs then bolt the wheel back on and recheck control arm clearance. This can help determine just how much less back space you really need.

70cst 05-26-2021 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Boog (Post 8925090)
If you are just dead set to not trim the control arm try this. Remove one wheel and stack 1/2" of flat washers on three of the wheel studs then bolt the wheel back on and recheck control arm clearance. This can help determine just how much less back space you really need.

Great idea :metal:

67C10Step 05-26-2021 09:36 AM

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Maybe I got lucky but I am running a 2-1/2" static drop in the front and 15x8 rallys with no rubbing issues. My backspacing is similar to the 4.25 as shown in the first post here.

Grumpy old man 05-26-2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 67C10Step (Post 8925120)
Maybe I got lucky but I am running a 2-1/2" static drop in the front and 15x8 rallys with no rubbing issues. My backspacing is similar to the 4.25 as shown in the first post here.

I'm running these old school 15 x 8 wheels with a 4" back space and they don't hit . It may be from using the CPP drop spindles and rotors we both are using ? .

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/WVI-31-580604

Custom 68 05-26-2021 11:51 AM

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I did some trimming like suggested and added a 1/4 inch spacer to get the clearance I needed.

67C10Step 05-26-2021 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy old man (Post 8925155)
I'm running these old school 15 x 8 wheels with a 4" back space and they don't hit . It may be from using the CPP drop spindles and rotors we both are using ? .

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/WVI-31-580604

That's my guess as well, Grumpy. I think those set the front wheels out 3/4" right? If so, it makes a good difference in clearance and my 255 wide tires set right at the edge of the fenders.

70cst 05-26-2021 12:32 PM

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After reading all this I wonder if I should get a 15x7 wheel for the fronts and maybe a 1/2 " BS and that would do the trick. I really dont want the front wheels to go outside the fender...

Grumpy old man 05-26-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 67C10Step (Post 8925172)
That's my guess as well, Grumpy. I think those set the front wheels out 3/4" right? If so, it makes a good difference in clearance and my 255 wide tires set right at the edge of the fenders.

No , They are advertised as the only drop spindles that don't increase the width , I'll get some more pictures and get a measurement of the width of the rotors side to side. I'm using stock A arms and 255 x 70 x 15 tires :chevy:

70cst 05-26-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy old man (Post 8925207)
No , They are advertised as the only drop spindles that don't increase the width , I'll get some more pictures and get a measurement of the width of the rotors side to side. I'm using stock A arms and 255 x 70 x 15 tires :chevy:

Do you have 15x7 or 15x8 inch rims? Thanks


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