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Gresgski, I hope you understand how much i appreciate this thread. Love your writing style, love the detail, love the fun facts, love the quarks etc. It is one of my favorite threads of all time. Thank you for all that you do to bring more to this thread!

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Wow, thank you so much, I really appreciate it.

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yes honey I will do the dishes while you're gone, bye now, bye, you and the kids have a great time at your folks for dinner, mmm bye

[5 minutes later] queue Mission Impossible music

Lads tell me you aint excited about this?

I want you to look me in the eye and tell me this aint got rhythm and that there's not enuff floor space, so you just can't dance to it!!!

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Alright so plan for today, first we make a list of things we got to do in the garage:

TO DO

1. Re Clock The Alternator

perfect, got it, simple

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OK, here we go, nothing to it, but to do it

... but first check out how nice this enjin crossmember support bracket turned out...

wonder how it would look on the frame

... check it out, it looks great, but you can't just mount one and not the other, you're gonna hurt it's feelings

... there that's better

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now then, where were we... ooh shinny

~ WE ~ MUST ~ MOUNT ~

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man, you're so lucky, the bolts on your truck were in that good of a shape, they are like brand new, oh wait... never mind

... and as I sat there on the ground thinking how pathetic I am not to even have a workbench, I tried to think of some positives of the situation and the only one I could come up with was that at least nothing can ever fall off the floor, ha ha, get it

yes I am a wire wheelin' mad man, but I can't bring myself to putting on rusty clay filled / wrapped nuts and bolts on the newly painted bits, this aint ROADKILL!!!

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and so we had to do the other side, and by the way these motor mounts are identical as far as I can tell, it's not like there be a right and a left one, they both have a cut off corner on the bottom but its in the same place, fits kinda nice on the dirver side and silly on the passenger, the cut off corner should be towards the rear of the vehicle seems like, not in front

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hmmm I wonder how the matching engine brackets will look on the block...

alright, and the other side... nice, though I wonder how these turned out Champagne instead of Cast Iron, glad I chose the other brand of paint for my engine, I like the Cast Iron look more better

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Dude get yourself a cheap bench grinder and a wire wheel for it. I got a free 6" bench grinder and tossed a wire wheel on it.

Then I just use some vice grips to hold bolts and crap to clean it up.

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funny thing is I got one, but it sucks I don't think it RPMs high enuff, its one of them orange Harbor Freight ones

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Re clocking the alternator, if you YouTube this procedure you will see guys doing it a couple different ways, some remove the back, some remove the front, I removed the back cause I wanted to see the brushes and the guts, the unit looks pretty tired, it may be the last old accessory on the truck, me having replaced everything else

I used the red WD40 straw trick to hold the brushes in while I slipped the housing back on

I think I rekeyed it from 9:00 o'clock to 3:o'clock unless it's upside down

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not sure this re clocking is going to fly in my book as it moved the hole for the mounting bracket away from where the nice hefty spacer bracket needs to go, and I am not a fan of the new simple pipe spaces

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here's just the before and after shots for comparison, see how the plug was on the left which would have been crammed against my engine and now its on the right, nice and away from all the action

and now on the engine

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Is there any reason you are wanting to use a low mount alternator bracket for? There are high mounts which put the alternator up MUCH further and much much easier to work on.

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I want to be able to see my engine, not the accessories, lol, plus I think it looks silly and ugly way up there, just a personal preference, going with form over function on this one, lower center of gravity, ha ha

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The reason GM mounted them high is to get away from the exhaust.
You should probably put a metal heat shield between the alternator and the headers with some reflective heat shielding attached.
I'd put a metal heat shield with reflective heat shielding between the starter and the headers too. Make sure there's space between the starter and the shielding to allow some airflow...
Don't forget the torque brace between the starter tail and the block... The big Delco MT series and smaller Delco gear reduction PT series starters can break the mounting bolts, cast nose, and block pad just like they do on the diesels. Classic Industries sells em but... fabbing a brace should be fairly easy too.
Post #4 to the end of this thread... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=238063
More info in this thread specificaly braces for the 153 and 168 tooth flywheel 10MT starters. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=492532
How do you tell the difference between 153 tooth and 168 tooth starters? Look at the mounting bolts. 153 tooth are straight across 168 tooth are diagonal.

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Dunno. Yes, dropping the rear-end ratio alone will make all the gears relatively "higher," but that's comparing Muncie-before-the-change to Muncie-after-the-change... and I bet you weren't using that granny gear anyhow.

The only fair comparison to make would be Muncie-with-lower-rear-end-ratio vs. OD-tranny-with-current-rear-end-ratio. And that would require math. Acid test is working out the engine RPM to rear wheel ratio for all gears with both transmissions... that will tell the tale.

But you've already gone down the new-tranny road, so there's no point in working all that out now.

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I think that transmission has a .73 OD ratio. If you are currently running a 3.42, final will be 2.49.

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Your doing a killer job. It's funny but I never had any heat soak problems between my starter and headers. Drove it with headers daily for years no trouble. As for the alternator I could see possibly some heat problems but I have no clue there.

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the core support rode shot gun from my buddy's barn as we raced home before the sun set after media blastin' all the hard to reach nooks and crannies

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the GM gods were not smiling on us tonight, it was one obstacle after another, I ran out of wire wheel, the wife interrupted to help her start the grill (the other kind) I said no, so they were having steak while I was having chicken nuggets...

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but I was determined to get this core support covered in primer tonight, so I put on my night vision goggles and primered by feel

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Hah! I love those night vision goggles.....:haha:

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Now if she had wanted you to help start the other grill, you probably would not have got that in primer. lol

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well hopefully by the end of the day all these parts will be green (ok technically all but the hood latch mechanism and its companion spring, those will be le black)

I counted a bakers dozen, what did you get?

apologies if some parts may be backwards or upside down in the photo, getting all of them to sit still for 30 seconds was like herding cats, plus the wind was a blowin the tarp up, things I do for you guys

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Just kidding ,LOL .

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Excellent!

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Love the post man, the way you explain in such detail with just the right amount of humour its perfect. Keep up the good work cant wait to see it when your done.

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But when he is done he will have to tear it all back apart and start over to keep us entertained .But I guess we could just go over the whole thread again instead .

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technically I only see one part that should be green. I see mostly all black in that wild herd that did not want to be photographed.;)

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oh yeah, which one?

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its funny how the things we need is broken on the trucks we want to pull them off of, take that pesky baby hood latch spring, I looked at two trucks that still had the hood latch on them on that little rascal was broken on both

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I can't even begin to tell you how many tools I have lost at the yards while pulling stuff off, but sometimes the Yard Taketh and sometimes the Yard Giveth

... and today was such a day, I found a lovely Husky 1/4" rachet with an extension and a 10mm socket on it, I found this Knife, and litterally a yard stick (who knew Sister Margaret's truck would end up here, lol) pic of yardstick not shown

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the first driveshaft I pulled was off of this lovely '95 GMC (figured what better donor than a GMC to a GMC transplant, right?)

well after I pulled it I realized the shaft had a bit of scarring from the forklift they use to move the trucks around, and since this device spins and needs to be true, I decided to pass on it

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Is that spring available new?

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a couple feet away there was this 1990 short bed standard cab, and it's shaft was even worse than the first one, I didn't even bother pulling this one off

ok, was my buddy Mopar Seth right when he said buy a new one, cause all them ones in the yards might be damaged, what does he know anywayz

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the panel the houses the turn sigs of course. hehe