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Ziegelsteinfaust 10-30-2021 01:50 PM

Octane boosters
 
Do any octane boosters work enough to get up from california piss water 91 to a decent 93. I have tried all brands of gas to only slight differences.

I finally finished tuning my engine as best I could and have talked to a few experts. My combined mechanical/dynamic compression is to high.

So I want to try better octane booster then parts store stuff which helps, but I do not know a good brand. Or if any truly work. Besides around the margins.

If I can hold out long enough to get things in order I want a LS variant. Or if no temp solutions will work I will do a LT1 350 as it will be plug, and play. Plus I know carbs where fuel injection can throw me a loop I would get stuck on.

This is my only vehicle so I have to play it as safe as I can.

burnin oil 10-30-2021 02:47 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
Do you have E85 around? When I would get a bad tank of fuel I would spike it with E85. It has a higher octane rating but less BTUs per gallon.

Getter-Done 10-30-2021 02:57 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
Have you tried Amsoil?

Link: https://www.amsoil.com/p/dominator-octane-boost-aob/

Ziegelsteinfaust 10-30-2021 04:20 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burnin oil (Post 8990108)
Do you have E85 around? When I would get a bad tank of fuel I would spike it with E85. It has a higher octane rating but less BTUs per gallon.

Not in large enough quantities. Of the places I go both of the stations in my area are out of the way, and would be annoying to go to.

I have dreamed of building a E85 engine, but not for a DD where I live. Plus if I went to visit family I would have to bring enough fuel to finish the return trip.

If worse comes to worse. I rather build a throw away 350. It would be emotionally easier to deal with. As at 430 am I need gas I can stop anywhere vs a special trip in the wrong direction to work.

I have access to a 283 that needs a regasket, and manifold. That I could make work if need be.

Ziegelsteinfaust 10-30-2021 04:24 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Getter-Done (Post 8990113)

No I have not. I got a line on some stuff that supposedly works well, and is available locally to try.

But I will look to see if I can get a bottle to try first.

Greasey Harley 10-31-2021 08:10 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
Just FYI "Raises octane level one point" means it raises it from 91 to 91.1, not 92.
Maybe you already knew that, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
VP Octane booster will boost up to 70 points (advertised)
You can also cut cheap gas with 101 aviation fuel, that works pretty good.

Ziegelsteinfaust 10-31-2021 08:24 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greasey Harley (Post 8990535)
Just FYI "Raises octane level one point" means it raises it from 91 to 91.1, not 92.
Maybe you already knew that, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
VP Octane booster will boost up to 70 points (advertised)
You can also cut cheap gas with 101 aviation fuel, that works pretty good.

I did my research and that is a trick I learned about. Since I never built a engine to use it as I always played it safe enough with my choices.

Some stuff I got will give me a several point increase. So I have to do the math when I get the formulas to see how I want to approach it. Or atleast people on the internet claim it is good, and I could have it delivered.

I forgot about AV gas, and that is a option. Since I pass by a air port often enough. Plus with a lower compression motor already found. I can play with that for a month or two while I get ready for a swap out.

sweetk30 11-01-2021 11:18 AM

Re: Octane boosters
 
Av gas has lead in it . So watch cats and o2 sensors .

Plug there not suppose to sell to non airplane . . Faa rules atleast in my area .

MySons68C20 11-01-2021 02:05 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greasey Harley (Post 8990535)
Just FYI "Raises octane level one point" means it raises it from 91 to 91.1, not 92.
Maybe you already knew that, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
VP Octane booster will boost up to 70 points (advertised)
You can also cut cheap gas with 101 aviation fuel, that works pretty good.

I agree with GH on this. The VP stuff has a good rep. The last time I bought 110
octane race fuel it was over $10.00 a gallon and not available everywhere.

bnorth 11-01-2021 03:06 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
Back in my high hp turbo Honda days we used to mix toluene in with pump for a little extra protection. This stuff: http://race-gas.com/ is supposed to work well as well.

mattfranklin 11-01-2021 11:23 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
More than you'd ever care to learn about octane improving blending components:
https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy00osti/28193.pdf

Another fun option would be water injection.
I haven't seen it promoted much lately. but theoretically should be helpful.
EDIT: It looks like water injection systems have come a long way from when they just used to use a windshield washer pump:
https://www.summitracing.com/search/...ection-systems


Honda & MIT had a pretty cool SAE paper a few years ago. They'd get regulsr E10 gas and then split the base gasoline and ethanol with a special membrane. Then during high manifold pressure conditions, you'd have extra ethanol to inject. Not commercialized anywhere as far as I know.

'68OrangeSunshine 11-22-2021 06:49 PM

Re: Octane boosters
 
You can't get it anymore, but TetraEthylLead used to come in a 1 Qt bottle for a 20 gallon fuel tank. My '68 Stepside ran like it was the Sixties all over again.


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