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Gregski 02-21-2015 10:37 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Muncie Transmission
 
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as I was knee deep in operation code name "SM465" I recalled that when I drained the juice out of this iron mellon and shoved my finger in the drain hole I felt some shrapnal

that's it I thought, to take this beast out and not take a peak inside that would be criminal

so out came the shifter so I could shove it half way into reverse, that is the open sesami for taking the lid off

Gregski 02-22-2015 01:10 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Busted Knuckles Garage
 
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to be honest with you all, I removed the top case off the transmission because I was skierd to take off the sides, you see I looked at so many transmission pics and diagrams, somewhere along the way I got confused into thinking the sides are attached to linkages and rods and clips that when undone I would never git back into place

I am happy to find out that is not the case and that the side panels are just for inspection / cleaning if you will

and let me tell you this transmission is as simple as it gets, and very well put together, simple and strong

but as I went to remove the second side cover, that's when she drew blood, hmm maybe I'll dub this the Busted Knuckles Garage

greg64 02-22-2015 01:24 AM

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The old knuckle buster, eh? I tend to wear gloves doing jobs like that these days, I'm tired of cutting up my hands. That and my wife laughs at me when I need yet-another bandaid.

Those side covers are for PTO. The 465 has them on both sides, whereas the earlier SM420 only had a PTO port on one side.

As you can see, the gearing is pretty brawny. The straight cut gear is first. I have the same transmission in my 77. Sure, it shifts like a truck tranny, but I like it.

Gregski 02-22-2015 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by greg64 (Post 7060068)
those side covers are for pto. The 465 has them on both sides, whereas the earlier sm420 only had a pto port on one side.

pto - ?

jetmech85 02-22-2015 01:59 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
"Power Take Off" An assortment of devices could be driven from a gear box that bolts to the side transmission. A mechanical winch or a hydraulic pump for a dump bed for example.

Titomars 02-22-2015 04:37 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Busted Knuckles Garage
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7060054)

but as I went to remove the second side cover, that's when she drew blood, hmm maybe I'll dub this the Busted Knuckles Garage

Damn she bit you! I guess you need to train that trans to play nice ;)

Gregski 02-22-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jetmech85 (Post 7060097)
"Power Take Off" An assortment of devices could be driven from a gear box that bolts to the side transmission. A mechanical winch or a hydraulic pump for a dump bed for example.

Thank you, I did not know that, learned another thing, cool.

El Dorado Jim 02-22-2015 06:28 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Painted the Rocker Covers
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 6867903)
why do we call em Valve Covers when the valves don't even live in there well their tails do but anyways, the manual calls em Rocker Covers

these had to be the crusties lids I have ever worked on / with, not too crazy about the gloss black finish but hey that's what I had, I may scuff em up and reshoot them with Semi Flat, we'll see

yeah I forgot to paint the filler cap ok, the devil's in the details, must have been a Monday Night Football night, LOL

no flippin idea why that one pic comes up upside down, guess you can just turn your head to see em, jk

keep em chevy orange!

rusty76 02-22-2015 07:56 PM

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Just a little love bite.

Gregski 02-22-2015 10:10 PM

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in case some of you didn't know what's inside those universal joint ends, I took one cup off to see them roller bearings for myself

top tip is to put tape around them when off the vehicle so they don't slip off on their own

I will be replacing mine with brand new ones, so I am not too worried

Gregski 02-22-2015 10:20 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Driveshaft
 
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since the transmission gaskets had to be special ordered and won't arrive till Tuesday, I had to change gears (see what I did there, LOL) and move on to something else to keep The Greg busy

so working our way from the front of the truck to the back, and having cleaned and semi assembled the clutch, and torn appart the tranny, the Drive Shaft was next

so the wire wheeling gets under way...

El Dorado Jim 02-22-2015 10:24 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7041597)
so I go to put the first bubble in it with the 3/8th adapter, the thing you are supposed to tighten slides off on one side, the tube hits me in my head, but I press on (a little pun there for ya)

I keep going I take the adapter thingie out and squeeze the tube just with the press thingie and end up with the ugliest half double flare you have ever seen, so ugly I will not be showing you any pictures, we will just collectively say

"IT'S A TRUCK !!!"

and move on to the before and after photos

Hi Greg, I have been reading your thread today for the first time,love it,you are doing a great job and having fun also.....just wanted to comment on the glass fuel filter,I used to run those years ago,until once I was smelling gas and popped the hood to see gas spraying out of the filter like a fan over the motor.....the glass tube had split lengthwise and was spraying gas everywhere,luckily I had a piece of straight steel tubing I carry in my toolbox (I always carry a toolbox in all my rigs) so I was able to get home, from then on I run the one piece see through plastic throw away ones.....just saying....now on to read more of your thread

El Dorado Jim 02-22-2015 10:26 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Air Cleaner
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7043466)
I think I forgot to ask, and be honest with me, does this Caddy air cleaner look stupid on this small block. Its the one LMC truck has though I bought it for half price on eBay, I didn't expect it to be the size of an actual UFO. It may be at home on a big block but it sure takes up a lot of real estate under the hood.

The dilemma is this, if I keep it my buddies tease me that I would have to rename the truck from Rusty to either Darth Vader or Marvin the Martian, and I aint too keen on doing so.

I prefer the aftermarket round chrome ones

El Dorado Jim 02-22-2015 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7043734)
Yeah, if she only was a few inches smaller. I did mention earlier on in the thread that LMC now offers a narrower one but taller, but then they probably want a million dollars for it.

So I am leaning towards this Mr. Gasket Flat BLACK one - seen em fer $25 on eBay filter included, maybe a gray or a black filter would be wicket too

thank you all for reading and commenting, appreciate the input

that would look great on your motor

Gregski 02-22-2015 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by El Dorado Jim (Post 7061291)
Hi Greg, I have been reading your thread today for the first time,love it,you are doing a great job and having fun also.....

Thank you, glad you like it

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Originally Posted by El Dorado Jim (Post 7061291)
just wanted to comment on the glass fuel filter,I used to run those years ago,until once .....the glass tube had split lengthwise and was spraying gas everywhere, [...] from then on I run the one piece see through plastic throw away ones

yes, that glass one does make me nervous, its life span may be shorter than we thing, especially now after this shower story, gulp

Gregski 02-22-2015 10:34 PM

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so after transfering all the rust and dust off of the driveshaft on to me, I gave it a little acid wipe (that's what discolored it a bit, heck it might have even been flash rust) and then it was time to POR it on

last pic not too good, cause of shadows and the sun, but I wasn't gonna pick up a wet piece just to move it in the shade for a pic

Gregski 02-22-2015 10:46 PM

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spent the day painting with POR15, so here are the bottom brackets of the transmission cross member (cause I could not remove the actual cross member for the life of me)

hey sonny be careful with them OEM parts it's not like they grow on trees (ah yikes, never mind)

Gregski 02-22-2015 10:50 PM

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kinda hard to tell but all I used was a lid full from an aerosole can and I still had half left over, this POR15 stuff goes a long long way

here is the cross member transmission bracket being cleaned up

Gregski 02-22-2015 10:58 PM

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yes I had to go back and remove that drive shaft middle support bracket off the car, I could not see myself bolting up a nice shiny drive shaft to a rusty crusty bracket

Gregski 02-22-2015 11:00 PM

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the drive shaft middle bracket also got it's back scratched with the angle grinder and a wire brush and a soaking in some Phosphoric acid for good measure, then a coat of POR15

Gregski 02-22-2015 11:03 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
so that brings us to current, we can't go any further cause we are waiting on

1. Super Duper "White Lightning" Lithuania Grease fer the clutch linkage and pedal assembly

2. We are waiting on SM465 FelPro gasket set fer the Transmission

3. We are waiting on THE PAINT TO DRY

4. And Eastwood Blackening solution for nuts and bolts

68Timber 02-22-2015 11:28 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Dude you are a machine!

rich weyand 02-22-2015 11:32 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
You might as well order some Tite Seal (medium weight) to seal up the valve covers with, too, because it is gonna drive you nuts when (not if, WHEN) they start leaking without it, and I know how you are going to feel about waiting for it to come in.

bnoon 02-23-2015 10:15 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
I just love the good humor in this thread!

flashed 02-23-2015 01:12 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
bnoon ,Im with you on your humor thoughts ,he is working his but off and having fun too and making a lot of headway .

y5mgisi 02-23-2015 02:10 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Doing a lot of stuff I would have skipped! Makes me really pay attention to see that it's possible to just not cut corners in order to achieve a better finished product.

Motherfrog402 02-23-2015 03:54 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Helluva thread! Just spent the last 2-1/2 hrs reading it. You are as detail-oriented as I am, kudos to you, Sir.

And my wife wonders how I can get excited about restoring stuff...

rusty76 02-23-2015 05:22 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
You da man dude.

Gregski 02-23-2015 07:41 PM

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Dude you are a machine!

thanks, I really enjoy learning and wrenchin'

Gregski 02-23-2015 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bnoon (Post 7061756)
I just love the good humor in this thread!

thanks, I find you have to have a good sense of humor in order to spend two hours removing that last stubborn bolt of what ever you were working on

Gregski 02-23-2015 07:47 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Motherfrog402 (Post 7062252)
Helluva thread! Just spent the last 2-1/2 hrs reading it.

Dang, my readership just doubled, LOL

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Originally Posted by Motherfrog402 (Post 7062252)
You are as detail-oriented as I am, kudos to you, Sir.

your build thread see I must

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Originally Posted by Motherfrog402 (Post 7062252)
And my wife wonders how I can get excited about restoring stuff...

yup, mine calls the truck, "The Other Woman" well shoot honey, she don't mind if I look at other trucks, or if I come home smelling like another truck, well you git the idear

Gregski 02-23-2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rusty76 (Post 7062376)
You da man dude.

thanks

Gregski 02-23-2015 07:52 PM

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lets just say the wife is out of town for a couple of days, and keep this on the down low

flashed 02-23-2015 07:59 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
My wife thinks its normal to have car and truck parts all over the house .

BBM3 02-23-2015 08:31 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1424658837

^^^
Love the tools on the floor.
Those are the same three tools I have been using the most for my new 1975 K-10 rebuild.

PB Blaster (More is Better)
Cheater Bar (Longer is Better)
5 Pound sledge hammer (When all Else Fails)

Thanks for your great thread. You are helping me with my restoration.

greg64 02-23-2015 08:57 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7062588)
lets just say the wife is out of town for a couple of days, and keep this on the down low

They just don't understand, do they. :lol: I once had my whole living room floor covered with engine parts (no garage at the time).

These days, I'm a bit smarter, and don't leave incriminating evidence behind. ;)

Glad to see you painting all those neglected parts. It can be a real crud-farm under a truck as old as ours. Once I cleaned mine up, it was so much nicer to work underneath, because there wasn't dirt and grease everywhere. And another trick, I painted the inside of my chassis rails white, inside of the usual black. Sure, it doesn't hide dirt, but that's kind of the point (can see leaks earlier) and it makes it easier to see what's going on under there.

rusty76 02-23-2015 09:30 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Go ahead and paint the chairs while your at it. So if she does find out you can say, "But honey I painted the chairs with POR15. They'll last a long time..... :)"

Motherfrog402 02-23-2015 09:55 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7062581)
Dang, my readership just doubled, LOL



your build thread see I must



yup, mine calls the truck, "The Other Woman" well shoot honey, she don't mind if I look at other trucks, or if I come home smelling like another truck, well you git the idear

My build thread will be in two years, once our daughter goes off to college. Until then, if she puts it in a ditch, my heart won't be broken.

If you want to see a build thread that takes a 180 turn, then go here: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/je...build-1261179/

That's my other toy, patiently waiting for me back in Texas. Once the house is built, I'll go get her.

Gregski 02-24-2015 10:58 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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just trying to keep the Devil out of them details while I wait on materials, gaskets, and paint to dry

these are the metal bands that hold the universal joints of the driveshaft to the differential

Gregski 02-24-2015 11:45 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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ok, these are my clean eight (minus one, that's missing) bolts that hold the top of the Muncie transmission cover to the transmission

Have you seen those cuts on the bolt threads before, I have never seen that before? Is that some sort of method of preventing them from backing out, a locking type mechanism?


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