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Gregski 03-04-2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RDrancher (Post 7875983)
Good on fixing the hard line clearance. I had the same problem installing the one for my Summit carb. Funny...a gazillion carbs using basically the same setup on a gazillion SBCs, and it doesn't quite fit.

Great point, I guess retooling is not cost effective for the manufacturers so they let the consumer figure it out

question for you alls do we need to put some sort of gasket, oring, washer inside the hard line fittings to mate it to the carb, I put mine metal on metal and I am wondering if it will start leaking, so far so good, but metal don't like to mate with metal really well if you know what I mean?

RDrancher 03-04-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7876023)
Great point, I guess retooling is not cost effective for the manufacturers so they let the consumer figure it out

question for you alls do we need to put some sort of gasket, oring, washer inside the hard line fittings to mate it to the carb, I put mine metal on metal and I am wondering if it will start leaking, so far so good, but metal don't like to mate with metal really well if you know what I mean?

No gaskets or teflon tape on mine and no leaks yet. The carb install instructions (yes, I actually read them) specifically state not to use sealant tape. The flare is supposed to do all of the sealing.

LT7A 03-04-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7875898)
by then it got too dark to take a final pic, but we got everything assembled and after tightening that silly hex stud in the chrome dual hard line inlet we stopped the gushing gasoline fountain

Just checking, if you loosen that set screw would it allow you to adjust the length of the hard lines in relation to the fitting on the end? I wondered what it was there for when I saw it in the picture, and I wondered if it let you make adjustments.

Glad to get the updates and see the progress. Looks like you are settled in to your place so congratulations on that.

Gregski 03-04-2017 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LT7A (Post 7876059)
Just checking, if you loosen that set screw would it allow you to adjust the length of the hard lines in relation to the fitting on the end? I wondered what it was there for when I saw it in the picture, and I wondered if it let you make adjustments.

Glad to get the updates and see the progress. Looks like you are settled in to your place so congratulations on that.

Hmmm that's a great point, this is why I love this forum, full of good ideas. Honesty I have no idea what it's for, ha ha. I wonder if one could cut the lines shorter and move the end piece closer to the carb avoiding the inlet on the intake manifold, maybe one day I'll get motivated to find out

Azryael 03-04-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7876022)
thank you, right now trucks are hot, ie popular, people are buying them for all the wrong reasons like me to Hot Rod them, so they are way overpriced right now, however for your needs a long bed would make very much sense, and they tend to be "less desirable" in the eyes of the Hot Rod TV car show watching knuckleheads like me, so you can still probably land a very good deal, think lumber rack etc. right

I love wood working and am trying to learn metal working, do you have a link to some of your work or future project ideas would love to see them.

Greg, exactly! I also want a crew cab so I can carry my friends and family around; in addition to being a work truck, I want it to be my adventure vehicle to take to several national parks and maybe head up to Canada some day.

As for my woodworking, I've worked with wood ever since I was a kid, but I've only in recent years (I'm only 25) begun to really have this urge to make furniture and what not. I still have plenty to learn, but I'm happy with what I've made so far!

This was my most recent, and biggest project. An entertainment center that's meant to be a built-in for my parent's house:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2827/3...05145c6d_h.jpg

Built using cedar. Unfortunately, I had to have the lumber company "pick" the wood for me, since I didn't have a truck to go grab it all! Overall they did a great job, but I did end up with a few extremely warped boards. Looked into various methods of reshaping the boards, but I didn't have the time nor the proper means to do it!

Sorry for the threadjack!

Gregski 03-04-2017 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Azryael (Post 7876178)
Greg, exactly! I also want a crew cab so I can carry my friends and family around; in addition to being a work truck, I want it to be my adventure vehicle to take to several national parks and maybe head up to Canada some day.

As for my woodworking, I've worked with wood ever since I was a kid, but I've only in recent years (I'm only 25) begun to really have this urge to make furniture and what not. I still have plenty to learn, but I'm happy with what I've made so far!

This was my most recent, and biggest project. An entertainment center that's meant to be a built-in for my parent's house:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2827/3...05145c6d_h.jpg

Built using cedar. Unfortunately, I had to have the lumber company "pick" the wood for me, since I didn't have a truck to go grab it all! Overall they did a great job, but I did end up with a few extremely warped boards. Looked into various methods of reshaping the boards, but I didn't have the time nor the proper means to do it!

Sorry for the threadjack!

oh my goodness that is absolutely stunning, gorgeous, you built that and you are such a young man, what talent and good taste, I see the corner you built this into that must have been a challenge of its own

Azryael 03-04-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7876182)
oh my goodness that is absolutely stunning, gorgeous, you built that and you are such a young man, what talent and good taste, I see the corner you built this into that must have been a challenge of its own

Thank you! It took me longer than I expected (about two months) because of other things I was working on, and weather preventing me from cutting wood. I don't have a dedicated shop, so I didn't want my garage all dusty.

That corner was actually part of the design, to give the living room an actual focal point. Beforehand it was a large room with no real indication where a TV should be placed minus the built in speakers up top.

Currently a 55" TV sits in it, but it will accommodate up to a 65"; they don't watch TV much, so a super large TV is not needed.

Honestly, drawing everything up in AutoCad is was really made this easier.

Titomars 03-04-2017 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7876081)
Hmmm that's a great point, this is why I love this forum, full of good ideas. Honesty I have no idea what it's for, ha ha. I wonder if one could cut the lines shorter and move the end piece closer to the carb avoiding the inlet on the intake manifold, maybe one day I'll get motivated to find out

That is not a set screw. That is a 1/8" pipe plug. The port is typically used for a fuel pressure gauge.

LT7A 03-05-2017 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Titomars (Post 7876347)
That is not a set screw. That is a 1/8" pipe plug. The port is typically used for a fuel pressure gauge.

Well, there we go. Mystery solved. Apparently adjustments are meant to be made by judicious bending after all. And now I know what the first custom aftermarket part I ought to invent is.

Gregski 03-05-2017 01:17 PM

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Well, there we go. Mystery solved. Apparently adjustments are meant to be made by judicious bending after all. And now I know what the first custom aftermarket part I ought to invent is.

Yup, though just Googling reveals a multitude of better options, I like the rubber line solution the best

MikeB 03-05-2017 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7875888)
one thing that needed doin' was to swap the side hung float bowls with the center hung ones on this Holley carb, this also called for replacing that silly little straw connecting the two float bowls with the single fuel inlet with a proper dual inlet hard line

That's an expensive mod. Any particular reason for doing it other than getting the fuel inlets on the "correct" side of the engine? I've been using that same carb for nearly two years now. Its only issue was being a little hesitant on very cold mornings, which I have solved by drilling out the squirter orifices to .035".

Of course, since I bought my 80487, Holley has introduced an 80458 with center hung bowls. (Place "aargh" emogi here.)

Gregski 03-06-2017 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeB (Post 7877305)
That's an expensive mod. Any particular reason for doing it other than getting the fuel inlets on the "correct" side of the engine? I've been using that same carb for nearly two years now. Its only issue was being a little hesitant on very cold mornings, which I have solved by drilling out the squirter orifices to .035".

Of course, since I bought my 80487, Holley has introduced an 80458 with center hung bowls. (Place "aargh" emogi here.)

I was tired of the silly plugs you have to remove to see how high your fuel in the bowls is, and have gasoline poor out on the hot engine, plus all the cool kids had em, jk also that silly straw that connected the old float bowls had those pesky rubber tips that would tear every time I took the bowls off to reject, it got old real quick

Titomars 03-06-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7877637)
I was tired of the silly plugs you have to remove to see how high your fuel in the bowls is, and have gasoline poor out on the hot engine, plus all the cool kids had em, jk also that silly straw that connected the old float bowls had those pesky rubber tips that would tear every time I took the bowls off to reject, it got old real quick

The secret to those transfer tube seals is use a bit of Vaseline on them before installing them.

MikeB 03-06-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7877637)
also that silly straw that connected the old float bowls had those pesky rubber tips that would tear every time I took the bowls off to reject, it got old real quick

Ah, there's your problem. Carb felt bad because it was rejected. :)

I need to get a pair of the clear sight glasses (for the carb.)

Gregski 03-11-2017 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeB (Post 7878169)
Ah, there's your problem. Carb felt bad because it was rejected. :)

I need to get a pair of the clear sight glasses (for the carb.)

LOL, hey I'll handle the humor around here, jk

Gregski 03-11-2017 10:22 AM

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so not sure I shared this with you, but last October I tried yet another exhaust though it was short lived (ran it for a week or so) because I had that dreadful crank bearing problem

anywho I took it off thinking the noise was another exhaust header leak, turns out it wasn't, but I was running my exhaust manifolds with stockish turbo mufflers ever since, well until today

today we will put the Thrush Rattlers back on, or as I like to call it Exhaust 8.0

Hey what did you expect was going to happen when you leave me un supervised, LOL

Gregski 03-11-2017 10:25 AM

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these are single chamber and they are not a pass through design, in other words you can't see through them, not the best for horse power and flow, but hey according to their website they are "Making Hot Rods Hotter"

Gregski 03-11-2017 10:27 AM

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and so I got to build them, here they are being compared to what I had prior, a very loud straight pipe with only 9" resonators, did I say it was loud

these will have a more turn out style tip, dumping the dirty exhaust in front of the rear tires and right into the Prius stopped at the light next to us, two if we happen to be in the middle lane, win / win

Gregski 03-11-2017 10:33 AM

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tired of welding the resonators backwards in my last exhaust I decided to label the flow of the new Rattlers with some blue tape, so I weld them up right, as I believe unlike the Magmaflows these be directional

nothing to it but to do it

Gregski 03-11-2017 10:36 AM

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so got the Thrush mufflers welded to the front pipes and then welded on the tail pipes, again I like to run my exhausts just to the rear axle so I don't have to do the surpentine looptie loop around it, that may be part of my drone proplems but hey that's how all the cool kids run their exhausts, hee hee

RDrancher 03-11-2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7882589)
and so I got to build them, here they are being compared to what I had prior, a very loud straight pipe with only a 9" resonators, did I say it was loud

these will have a more turn out style tip, dumping the dirty exhaust in front of the rear tires and right into the Prius stopped at the light next to us, two if we happen to be in the middle lane, win / win

BRAVO BRAV-O!!! :bowtie:

Gregski 03-15-2017 12:03 PM

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a little mini update, so went back to the Remflex gaskets specifically designed for the L31 Vortec heads to ensure there are no exhaust leaks, also treated myself to some ARP header bolts, mostly for the much smaller bolt heads, should make turning them a bit easier in the very confined spaces that the headers provide

here's a little Top Tip on building your own DIY exhaust: if you design it with the parking brake on, ie the cable tension tight, when you release the parking brake for driving the truck, it might could hit the exhaust pipes, and ding like crazy, just sayin'

Gregski 03-15-2017 12:07 PM

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so the truck is pretty dialed in, the new exhaust is not quite what I was looking for (a nice deep rumble) but it's the best sounding so far, (louder than the Magnaflows, yet no drone like the Flowmasters) I may keep it for a couple [ahem] days, hee hee

here's a near perfect idle AFR (Air Fuel Ratio), I hope to get it Dyno Tuned by the end of this month, here's hoping... life has been beating up on us pretty good lately, wife had foot surgery and is to recover with a big cast for 6 weeks, so we are a (wo)man down.

68post 03-15-2017 12:44 PM

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I always use an "H-pipe" when building exhaust. Flows better, less drone, nice rumble - but quieter. Summit has them in their brand and they are aluminized too, pretty inexpensive !

Gregski 03-15-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 68post (Post 7886726)
I always use an "H-pipe" when building exhaust. Flows better, less drone, nice rumble - but quieter. Summit has them in their brand and they are aluminized too, pretty inexpensive !

thanks, I have tried the X pipe before and dreaded it, PIA to install and get all the clearance, plus I like a true separation in a dual exhaust system it allows me to quickly see which side of the engine is doing what and narrow things at least to one side, and part of me things the H pipe is a sham, lol


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