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Gregski 08-18-2016 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeramy (Post 7686717)
just my personal opinion that your drone is caused by dumping the exhaust under the truck. mine droned with the previous exhaust. which was stock manifolds, 2.25 pipe and cheap turbo mufflers dumped in front of the axle. didn't want to spend 150 bucks on the pipes to go over the rear axle so turned mine out the sides.

hmmm, either it's the angle or yours be a long bed truck, I wonder if the extra length or room for a bit longer exhaust pipe run helps eliminate the drone in your case?

Tiger Joe 08-18-2016 07:54 AM

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I agree if your exhaust is dumped under the bed before I swapped mufflers I be getting tailpipes and getting it to exit.

my dad has a c30 dump. had dumped exhausted ending right before the rear axle for 20+ years. was just LOUD. not even good loud just loud. I swapped a pair of cheapo summit mufflers (think they cost $30 each) and put the exits in front of the back tires. He get complements everywhere he goes now on how awesome the truck sounds.

blazer2007 08-18-2016 09:15 AM

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my sounded terrible until I went with the full exaust

Gregski 08-18-2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by blazer2007 (Post 7686888)
my sounded terrible until I went with the full exaust

what are you running? FlowMasters?

Gregski 08-18-2016 06:38 PM

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thought I would share a pic of a cool cut away of a Flowmaster muffler I saw today at a Hot Rod store while picking up some 90 elbows for my side exits

the flow is right to left <==

[all together now], ahh that's how you make the drone sound LOL

Gregski 08-18-2016 09:29 PM

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alright lets give the side exits a shot to see if that drowns out the drone

so the passenger side first - here it goes

harley87ta 08-18-2016 11:30 PM

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Is that hot rod store Tognotti's?

Gregski 08-19-2016 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by harley87ta (Post 7687643)
Is that hot rod store Tognotti's?

Si my brotha

harley87ta 08-19-2016 01:59 AM

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I miss going there. Stuck in socal now a desert wasteland

Gregski 08-19-2016 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaplain (Post 7688163)
50 series Flows dumping to the ground...Thanks for the lesson on uploading pics. I'm practicing on your thread.

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very nice I forgit what year is your truck so do you got a cat on it or no, cause the newerer rigs that must have cats may be drone free cause of that extra can in the exhaust system, just a thought

Gregski 08-19-2016 11:26 PM

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why don't you all grab a beer and follow me to my metal shop and we can take a look at the new and improved side exhaust Flow-a-Masters

took no time at all to cut the down pipes off and weld up some of these 90 elbows

now we are able to spew Carbon Monoxide at two Priuses at the same time whilst stopped at a red light - what's not to like

So is the drone gone? No not all the way gone but believe it or not its better, technically the drone used to be at 1000 RPM and now its at around 800 RPM (this is better on cold starts since with fast idle on your head was a poundin' till the rig warmed up)

so in the pics you can't really tell but they go out to the side and are angled a little bit down

Gregski 08-20-2016 01:02 PM

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not a huge fan of the Felpro header collector white gaskets, this one parished after only a couple hundred miles of service, now I aint sure if its by design that they are supposed to get this brittle after heating up, or cause its that they've been sitting on the O'Really's shelf since the Pilgrims brought them over on the Mayflower

Gregski 08-20-2016 01:05 PM

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got my new digital vacuum gauge installed and protected with an inline 2A amp fuseloge

love seeing it go from 16" at idle to 0" at Wide Open throttle to 23" of vacuum at off throttle while cruising

Boog 08-20-2016 07:14 PM

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Hey Greg. You know any exhaust system changes call for the obligatory sound clip right? ;)
And I have been thinking I might like to have a a/f meter for tuning. That's the first one in cab I've seen.

Gregski 08-21-2016 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Boog (Post 7689138)
Hey Greg. You know any exhaust system changes call for the obligatory sound clip right? ;)

ha ha, it's really nothing to write home about, as the resonators tamed the rumble / raspines, but I will see what I can do

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Originally Posted by Boog (Post 7689138)
And I have been thinking I might like to have a a/f meter for tuning. That's the first one in cab I've seen.

go for it you will wonder how you ever tuned without one, and by the way these days seems like everyone is offering these gauges (even Holley), but I am very happy with the INNOVATE products especially the ease of use and quality of the actual hardware

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:04 AM

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the manual steering box rebuild kit arrived so it was time to git er done

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:08 AM

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I figured I can delay it some more by doing whats completely un necessary...

come on we've all been there

time to remove the casting crests (those of you who followed along the engine rebuild know I did this to the block as well) you know those SEMA judges, picky picky - ha ha

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:15 AM

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this is the part that hugs the frame rail, no one will ever see this side, awesome, time well spent Greg

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:20 AM

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I mean come on guys looks like GM had Ray Charles in charge of the Casting Quality Control (no offense to Charles he probably would have felt the imperfections and had them fixed...)

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:23 AM

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I can't find the before pic of this angle / shot, but you get the idea it was wonky too, look like they had Ogur break the metal with his hands rather than use a hack saw, ha ha

no wonder they could crank out half a million of these trucks a year back then, their standards were "Eh Good Enuff'

IT'S A TRUCK!!!

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:28 AM

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alright already lets get to the rebuild process

so here I am using my Polish Press to gently slide the new brass? sleeve bushing thingie in the hole (hammer did not contact the bushing that's what the small wood pieces was for)

the hardest part of this precission process is keeping your thumb out of the way

hatzie 08-21-2016 10:29 AM

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How is the ball screw itself? That's where a major portion of the wear seems to take place.

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:33 AM

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ladies I would be lying to you if I told you I counted and knew exactly how many of these bee bees came out of that ball screw

I may have counted 50 and I may have read somewhere that 54 is required, please chime in if you know

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hatzie (Post 7689560)
How is the ball screw itself? That's where a major portion of the wear seems to take place.

with balls in it ZERO lateral play, I think that = good

harley87ta 08-21-2016 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7689555)
"Eh Good Enuff'

IT'S A TRUCK!!!

When I read this it made me think of the door alignment on your truck. I looked at doors on my 73 and they have the same sagging look to them. Our doors may have been hung by the same person. They said Eh Good Enuff It's a Truck

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by harley87ta (Post 7689566)
When I read this it made me think of the door alignment on your truck. I looked at doors on my 73 and they have the same sagging look to them. Our doors may have been hung by the same person. They said Eh Good Enuff It's a Truck

harley check the bottoms of your doors, when I was a camping my truck was a bit on a hill and I was sitting in a camping chair down low enjoying a luke cold beverage if you know what I mean, and I was like are my eyes lying to me or how stiff is this drink cause my door alignment under the truck is horrible, I mean bad, looks like someone side swiped ie T boned my cab, but they didn't the bottom of the doors just hang way out over the rockers, see if yours is the same

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:44 AM

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so she's coming along handsomely, though the supplied new washer for this adjustment bolt (foreground pointed right at you with the flat screw driver tip) did not fit so we went back with the old one as there needs to be a bit of wiggle room play in there I suppose

and we just packed the darn thing with some 30 year old Castrol bearing multipurpose grease we have been trying to get rid of since I was a teenager

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:55 AM

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a couple mandatory before and after shots of this Woolly Mammoth

Gregski 08-21-2016 10:59 AM

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well if nothing else you sure do clean these parts pretty well bro

top pic: Razor Back

bottom: Smooooooooth

Gregski 08-21-2016 11:02 AM

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I just love these before and after shots [oh sorry, millenials translation] pics, I meant pics

Gregski 08-21-2016 11:06 AM

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can we PALEAZE get this box on the truck already

alright alright...

out with the old first

Gregski 08-21-2016 11:10 AM

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by my estimation, assuming the power steering fluid was topped off, lets see carry the one, don't forget the belt, ... the old system weighed slightly under 712 lbs, hee hee

and yes the pitman arm is keyed wrong on the manual steering box in this pic (apparantly there are four positions it can be in - who knew, I just keyed it on the first key I saw thinking it was the only one there)

don't worry that arm came off half a dozen times before I got it aligned proper

Gregski 08-21-2016 11:15 AM

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ok so that took me the entire afternoon from 1330 (1:30 PM people) until 1815... no not eight o'clock... 6:15 PM oh why do I even bother impressing you with my military time know how, jk

ok, good job, looks good bro, how does it drive?

oh what's with all these questions? let's not split hairs here

Test Drive Time - TDT

Wide Open 08-21-2016 11:19 AM

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Nice work on the box.
Why'd you switch to manual?

Gregski 08-21-2016 11:21 AM

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LESSONS LEARNED so far

the broom stick ie the steering column do slide up and down so the manual box bolted right up though its not the exact same length as the power box

I did re use the old rag joint but I plan on buying a new one or getting a universal joint setup, if someone has one to recommend I would really appreciate that (I think someone already did way earlier in the thread but I am too lazy to look inside my own thread)

Power Steering box was about 3.5 turns end to end

Manual Steering box is about 4.0 turns end to end

Pitman arms be different, not so much in length or design but in hole for the splines, I think the manual is a bit smaller hole


Gregski 08-21-2016 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wide Open (Post 7689611)
Nice work on the box.
Why'd you switch to manual?

I'm a minimalist, less is more, cleaner engine bay, one less thing to leak (power steering fluid is nasty and finding an air tight pump is impossible) tired of squeeky belt during tight end to end U turns, maybe 2 more horse power, WANTED BIGGER BICEPTS!!! seriously just wanted to try it, see how it works, I may go back to power steering and just not tell you all, ha ha, I'm a Hot Rodder = mess with things constantly especially specialize in fixing things that are not broken

Wide Open 08-21-2016 12:29 PM

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Gotcha

rusty76 08-21-2016 06:51 PM

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So how's the darn thing handle/steer now. I'm dying to know. You've answered several questions about swapping to manual now I just need to know your final results youngin.

Chrispbrown36 08-21-2016 07:12 PM

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Hey Gregski, remember me talking about that old lady that lives up the road that has the squarebody sitting in her garage? Well I got some details on it from another neighbor....he says that it is a 74 or 75, 3/4 ton, with only about 10,000 miles on it. He said his grandpa and the old ladies dad bought similar trucks at the same time and the old ladies dad pretty much parked his....now I might have to say it with flowers!

Gregski 08-21-2016 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rusty76 (Post 7690036)
So how's the darn thing handle/steer now. I'm dying to know. You've answered several questions about swapping to manual now I just need to know your final results youngin.

LOL, First of all let me just say it took sum ballz to pull this off, sorry could't resist, hee hee

OK, after the test drive... Houston... We have a problem.

Apparently 2 is not the middle of 4 according to GM, you see [ahem] "pops" jk the passenger side hits the steer stop and the driver side stops short of it by maybe just under an inch

I think its time to blame the P.O.

Looks like the previous owner replaced the outer tie rod on the driver side only but not on the passenger side

So first this Power Nap aint going to take itself no how, so lemme git that out of the way and then git after it

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