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86c20 09-01-2014 09:05 PM

air injection manifold plugs
 
ok so my 350 has the air injection set up and broke one of the tubes that goes to the manifold so i have a leak got the nut out of both sides tonight was just wondering if anyone knew the thread or where to get plugs so i can pass a cop with out being to loud lol, thanks mike

Corts60 09-01-2014 09:15 PM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
I've had luck with Cummins engine oil drain plugs working.

Just call me Sean 09-01-2014 09:39 PM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
I only did it on my Ford, but it should be the same. The threads should be NPT (national pipe thread) so take the piece you removed to Lowes or Home Depot to match it up. Some auto parts stores might have NPT plugs too.

frank69 09-02-2014 02:34 AM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
I use 1/4 in. npt plugs.

86c20 09-02-2014 12:50 PM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
it dont seem to be npt seem metric??? its a crate motor form mexico if that helps any and this is 3/4 od like a half inch pipe

oily 09-02-2014 02:56 PM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
I measured mine a few years ago. They were 19mm with a very fine thread and straight [not tapered]. Also the threaded hole wasnt that deep, so tapping them to pipe thread would be iffy. I would try a drain plug [Corts60] first. You need a friendly parts guy to try out the many sizes. :)
P.S. At the bottom of the threaded hole, the size reduces down to about 5/16 or so. You could try tapping that to a pipe plug, but I dont think there is much material to work with.

Corts60 09-02-2014 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 86c20 (Post 6827234)
it dont seem to be npt seem metric??? its a crate motor form mexico if that helps any and this is 3/4 od like a half inch pipe

19mm and yes the threads are straight. No idea what pitch i.e.: 1.5, 1.25, etc. This is what a cummins drain plug is.

69m22zl1 03-27-2015 07:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 86c20 (Post 6826428)
ok so my 350 has the air injection set up and broke one of the tubes that goes to the manifold so i have a leak got the nut out of both sides tonight was just wondering if anyone knew the thread or where to get plugs so i can pass a cop with out being to loud lol, thanks mike

Did you ever find a plug that worked in the manifolds? If so where did if find them? part # ? or who has them for sale?

86c20 03-27-2015 08:14 PM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
well see its like this, i gave the old nut that goes around the tubing to my gf and she found a plumbing bushing that fits. it is the most odd ball thing ever. it is comp by pipe adt and it went right in. think it is 3/4 can take a pic if needed but its not pretty. but i dont care it works

69m22zl1 03-27-2015 10:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 86c20 (Post 7108906)
well see its like this, i gave the old nut that goes around the tubing to my gf and she found a plumbing bushing that fits. it is the most odd ball thing ever. it is comp by pipe adt and it went right in. think it is 3/4 can take a pic if needed but its not pretty. but i dont care it works

Thanks for the quick reply, I'll check that out! Thank you!

Titomars 03-27-2015 10:36 PM

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Most GM AIR injection tubes are fitted to the manifolds with flare nuts which are straight threads not NPT. I always use Allen head set screws. The size I have used is 1/2 X 20 the taper of the set screw tip is close enough to the 45deg flare which lets the set screw seal at the flare not the threads. I also use anti-seize on the threads for removal at a later time.

Pampas56 03-27-2015 11:44 PM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
When I had to replace the air injection tubes on my 350, we drilled the old flare nuts out and cleaned the threads up with a pipe tap. We discovered that they were a standard 1/4 inch NPS thread and dug up a straight plug tap to do the job.

A 1/2 by 20 plug would work worse than a 1/2 by 13 plug as the normal pitch of a 1/4. inch pipe thread is 14 TPI

Titomars 03-28-2015 12:08 AM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
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Originally Posted by Pampas56 (Post 7109189)
When I had to replace the air injection tubes on my 350, we drilled the old flare nuts out and cleaned the threads up with a pipe tap. We discovered that they were a standard 1/4 inch NPS thread and dug up a straight plug tap to do the job.

A 1/2 by 20 plug would work worse than a 1/2 by 13 plug as the normal pitch of a 1/4. inch pipe thread is 14 TPI

Ahhh but 5/16 inverted flare nut threads are 1/2 X 20. Anyway that's what I do on my pre 81 vehicles. Now I can't really speak for newer engines. They might be metric for all I know.

86c20 03-28-2015 07:31 AM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
here is one thing i want to ask on this. are you guys using the 1/2 on the single line air or is it on the ones with 3 or 4 lines to the manifold?? mine is single

Titomars 03-28-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 86c20 (Post 7109335)
here is one thing i want to ask on this. are you guys using the 1/2 on the single line air or is it on the ones with 3 or 4 lines to the manifold?? mine is single

Sorry I was talking about the standard four tube AIR rail to exhaust manifold.

69m22zl1 03-28-2015 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Titomars (Post 7109121)
Most GM AIR injection tubes are fitted to the manifolds with flare nuts which are straight threads not NPT. I always use Allen head set screws. The size I have used is 1/2 X 20 the taper of the set screw tip is close enough to the 45deg flare which lets the set screw seal at the flare not the threads. I also use anti-seize on the threads for removal at a later time.

I cut the air injection tubes and used a 22 mm to remove the them.
It looks like fine thread . An earlier post, Someone posted they used 19mm oil drain plug from Cummins diesel . Does anyone know year make model plug is from? Or if any of you can point out the plug I need would be very helpful . Thank you!

69m22zl1 03-28-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Corts60 (Post 6826455)
I've had luck with Cummins engine oil drain plugs working.

What year , make , model did you get the Cummins engine oil drain plug from?

Hart_Rod 07-13-2021 12:40 PM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
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Originally Posted by 69m22zl1 (Post 7109621)
What year , make , model did you get the Cummins engine oil drain plug from?

Bump. Anyone have an answer to this?

Corts60 07-14-2021 07:39 PM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
Been a long time since I worked on this stuff, but try buying one of these and see if it works.

M22x1.5
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NDP7...&gclsrc=aw.ds&

Hart_Rod 07-15-2021 09:03 AM

Re: air injection manifold plugs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corts60 (Post 8945360)
Been a long time since I worked on this stuff, but try buying one of these and see if it works.

M22x1.5
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NDP7...&gclsrc=aw.ds&

Thanks! I grabbed 2 at the parts store and the fit perfect, :metal:. For future questions on this matter, the part number is Dorman 652886.


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