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greg64 03-03-2015 09:20 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7074919)
Yeah you would think I said "Ford makes the best trucks!" or something, just kidding people, just joking

Them's fightin' words!

Titomars 03-03-2015 10:36 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by greg64 (Post 7074946)
Geez, a nice car to be sure, but 250 grand? No car is worth that to me.

Especially when it sold new for around $5,000 to $6,000....

rich weyand 03-04-2015 12:13 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Mecum recently sold an original, low-mileage Dodge Daytona hemi for $900,000.

David Spade bought it. <church lady voice> Isn't that special? </clv>

Titomars 03-04-2015 12:16 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by rich weyand (Post 7075274)
Mecum recently sold an original, low-mileage Dodge Daytona hemi for $900,000.

David Spade bought it. <church lady voice> Isn't that special? </clv>

who is David Spade??

68post 03-04-2015 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Titomars (Post 7075278)
who is David Spade??

"Joe Dirt"

greg64 03-04-2015 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Titomars (Post 7075278)
who is David Spade??

One of the SNL guys for a number of years.

Gregski 03-04-2015 01:17 AM

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can somebody remind me what the heck we ordered this for?

I kid, I kid

It was supposed to take TWO WEEKS but it got here in only 11 days, that's like saying I plan on finishing this marathon in 23 hours and then thinking you set the world on fire when you come in at 20 hours

what? bad example, well that's all I got

Titomars 03-04-2015 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 68post (Post 7075318)
"Joe Dirt"

???

Titomars 03-04-2015 01:22 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
well look at that the mysterious lubriplate finally made a showing. :lol:

Titomars 03-04-2015 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by greg64 (Post 7075339)
One of the SNL guys for a number of years.

Sorry that does not help. I have not watched SNL since the 70's.

Gregski 03-04-2015 01:26 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Second Speedometer Cable
 
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on the way home from work today I decided to pop into O"Reilly's and pick up another speedometer cable, a different one from that junk I got at AutoZone, well they had one but it was the same exact brand, but [wait for it...] for $4 bucks more

So I hit NAPA auto parts and these guys showed they had THREE cables in their "system" well so I say to the guy I'll take the top one on the list the 61" one, he says I'll get you the last one on the list, I say what, why? he says look it's the exact same part number, I go but it says "Lower Speedometer Cable"

anyway sure enuff the $19 dollar "Lower Speedometer Cable" he got for me is the full length cable like my old two piece cable together

just sharing this ordeal with you as you gotta look out for yourself, since nobody cares more about your truck than you do

by the way that poor quality Pioneer speedometer cable from AutoZone is 80 inches long (too long folks wants to hug and melt on the exhaust pipe)

Gregski 03-04-2015 01:42 AM

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the new NAPA speedometer cable fits the speedometer like it should, so I took the truck for a test drive (private road)

I ran it one way at 70 MPH and the other way at 80 MPH

then the truck died

I swear I ought to write a column called "Adventures of a Man and His Old Truck"

what happens next is comedy on wheels

naturally I am right in front of a No Parking Any Time sign and a fire hydrant staring right at me with a shadow grin as if to say now what you gonna do looser?

so I recon once again I am out of gas, so I push him to the curb and run/jog home (one mile)

I jump in my other car, take kid to karate, hit a gas station, go to Rusty

ah good I got here before the cops, no ticket, poor 2 gallons in him, he fires right up, I pull in to the closest parking lot, and leave him there so I can take my other car home

get home in other car, jump on sons bike, ride to get rusty (looking like a circus gorilla on one of 'em tricycles)

throw bike in bed of truck, out of breath, jump in the cab all sweaty, HE WON'T START, what the monkey tails is going on Rusty?

if there is one sound I know now, it is the sound a vehicle makes when it has no fuel, I am all like dude, I just pored 2 gallons down your throat, where did it go

check see through (newly installed mind you) fuel filter - empty / dry / de nada

crank a few more times, nothin, remove the air cleaner (I don't know why, guys who know what they are doing do it all the time, so monkey see monkey do, hee hee)

walk around truck see dark puddle on ground right about the area where the transmission crossmember connects to the frame rails on passenger side (don't even say it)

darn, I got a fuel leak - and no tools in the truck

ride sons bike back home - its dark by now

time to get him from karate, ride to get him

hit NAPA to get a tow strap, NAPA closed early, they are getting new floors put in

hit Pep Boys, closed too

hit O'Reilly's get tow strap

Race home...

Honey, honey, have you ever towed a truck before? wanna learn?

well my beloved is a natural, she towed me and Rusty home, and we only broke the 5,000 lbs 25 foot yellow tow strap once


Gregski 03-04-2015 01:43 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by rich weyand (Post 7075274)
Mecum recently sold an original, low-mileage Dodge Daytona hemi for $900,000.

David Spade bought it. <church lady voice> Isn't that special? </clv>

LMAO, that made snot come out of my nose, so darn funny, didn't know you had it in ya Rich

Motherfrog402 03-04-2015 02:27 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7075394)
the new NAPA speedometer cable fits the speedometer like it should, so I took the truck for a test drive (private road)

I ran it one way at 70 MPH and the other way at 80 MPH...

....walk around truck see dark puddle on ground right about the area where the transmission crossmember connects to the frame rails on passenger side (don't even say it)

darn, I got a fuel leak - and no tools in the truck

ride sons bike back home - its dark by now

time to get him from karate, ride to get him

hit NAPA to get a tow strap, NAPA closed early, they are getting new floors put in

hit Pep Boys, closed too

hit O'Reilly's get tow strap

Race home...

Honey, honey, have you ever towed a truck before? wanna learn?

well my beloved is a natural, she towed me and Rusty home, and we only broke the 5,000 lbs 25 foot yellow tow strap once



I think a few of us have had that happen once or twice...or three times. Good news is it's probably an easy fix.

Speedo cable...don't know what to tell you there.

y5mgisi 03-04-2015 04:42 AM

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Dang it!

rich weyand 03-04-2015 05:30 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7075396)
LMAO, that made snot come out of my nose, so darn funny, didn't know you had it in ya Rich

Yeah, my friends all call me Mucinex. ;-)

Hey, now that you have the speedo cable and the lubriplate, a little note. If the speedo cable is crushed to a .104 square on both ends, the cable can go in the housing either way. You know how a screw pump works, right? Put the cable in so that the "screw" of the cable, when it spins in forward, pumps toward the transmission. Otherwise excess speedo cable grease and anything (like tranny gear lube) that gets into the cable gets pumped up into the back of the instrument panel.

Chaplain 03-04-2015 08:51 AM

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Incredible...

greg64 03-04-2015 10:49 AM

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"We're leaking gas?
We are now.
What, you thought you needed another challenge or something?!"

Too bad about the breakdown, Greg. I'm guessing the fuel line got nicked when you were screwing around with the transmission crossmember.

Buy hey, you were up to 80 mph for a while there! Which makes me wonder, with an SM465, how many revs was the engine turning over?

Gregski 03-04-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by greg64 (Post 7075627)
Buy hey, you were up to 80 mph for a while there! Which makes me wonder, with an SM465, how many revs was the engine turning over?

Couldn't tell ya, the tachometer was on my desk back at home, LOL. Getting that installed whilst upgrading my gauge cluster to a 1978 model may be part of MARCH MADNESS, stay tuned.

I am also interested in what it does at a highway cruising speed, I forget what miles per hour something like 70 or 75 where you check how fast it's spinning, know what the heck I am talking about?

enaberif 03-04-2015 11:07 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7075394)
the new NAPA speedometer cable fits the speedometer like it should, so I took the truck for a test drive (private road)

I ran it one way at 70 MPH and the other way at 80 MPH

then the truck died

I swear I ought to write a column called "Adventures of a Man and His Old Truck"

what happens next is comedy on wheels

naturally I am right in front of a No Parking Any Time sign and a fire hydrant staring right at me with a shadow grin as if to say now what you gonna do looser?

so I recon once again I am out of gas, so I push him to the curb and run/jog home (one mile)

I jump in my other car, take kid to karate, hit a gas station, go to Rusty

ah good I got here before the cops, no ticket, poor 2 gallons in him, he fires right up, I pull in to the closest parking lot, and leave him there so I can take my other car home

get home in other car, jump on sons bike, ride to get rusty (looking like a circus gorilla on one of 'em tricycles)

throw bike in bed of truck, out of breath, jump in the cab all sweaty, HE WON'T START, what the monkey tails is going on Rusty?

if there is one sound I know now, it is the sound a vehicle makes when it has no fuel, I am all like dude, I just pored 2 gallons down your throat, where did it go

check see through (newly installed mind you) fuel filter - empty / dry / de nada

crank a few more times, nothin, remove the air cleaner (I don't know why, guys who know what they are doing do it all the time, so monkey see monkey do, hee hee)

walk around truck see dark puddle on ground right about the area where the transmission crossmember connects to the frame rails on passenger side (don't even say it)

darn, I got a fuel leak - and no tools in the truck

ride sons bike back home - its dark by now

time to get him from karate, ride to get him

hit NAPA to get a tow strap, NAPA closed early, they are getting new floors put in

hit Pep Boys, closed too

hit O'Reilly's get tow strap

Race home...

Honey, honey, have you ever towed a truck before? wanna learn?

well my beloved is a natural, she towed me and Rusty home, and we only broke the 5,000 lbs 25 foot yellow tow strap once


Seriously.. Anyone who is a backyard mechanic or works on vehicles has had this happen at least once or twice! :lol:

Chaplain 03-04-2015 11:29 AM

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In old news, I checked this morning. Small reservoir, big tubing, rear brakes on my truck.

greg64 03-04-2015 11:39 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7075639)
Couldn't tell ya, the tachometer was on my desk back at home, LOL. Getting that installed whilst upgrading my gauge cluster to a 1978 model may be part of MARCH MADNESS, stay tuned.

I am also interested in what it does at a highway cruising speed, I forget what miles per hour something like 70 or 75 where you check how fast it's spinning, know what the heck I am talking about?

Greg, what rear gears do you have, and what size tires? I'm now curious what RPM the engine was at, and I'll calculate it.

I like that tach.

Gregski 03-04-2015 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaplain (Post 7075672)
In old news, I checked this morning. Small reservoir, big tubing, rear brakes on my truck.

Thank you Chap, do you recall which chamber is in the front and which one is in the rear?

Chaplain 03-04-2015 12:06 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Small chamber at the rear.

Gregski 03-04-2015 12:06 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by greg64 (Post 7075695)
Greg, what rear gears do you have, and what size tires? I'm now curious what RPM the engine was at, and I'll calculate it.

3.42 - I am pretty sure

235/75 - R15 on the tires

greg64 03-04-2015 12:19 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7075721)
3.42 - I am pretty sure

235/75 - R15 on the tires

That works out to an engine RPM of 3184. Not as high as I thought it might be.

Titomars 03-04-2015 12:41 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
At 65 MPH with a GPS My 454 is turning 3300 RPM (factory tach). I have 3.73's with 275/60's (28 inch dia.). Just humming along hehe.

greg64 03-04-2015 01:02 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Titomars (Post 7075766)
At 65 MPH with a GPS My 454 is turning 3300 RPM (factory tach). I have 3.73's with 275/60's (28 inch dia.). Just humming along hehe.

Interesting, the driveshaft is only turning 2910 RPM at that road speed. So the torque converter is slipping the difference between 2910 and 3300.

Titomars 03-04-2015 08:33 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by greg64 (Post 7075784)
Interesting, the driveshaft is only turning 2910 RPM at that road speed. So the torque converter is slipping the difference between 2910 and 3300.

Well actually I'm not 100% sure on the gears. My truck was originally equipped with 3.42's but when I do the eyeball check with the drive shaft to tire revolution it is a hair over 3 3/4 turns. I had the cover off and did not think to actually read the gear stamping. I'm not pulling the cover again till I need to. The factory tach may not be spot on, either. ;)

cnorth 03-04-2015 10:20 PM

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Would just like to say that your work on Rusty has been outstanding you should

be very proud of yourself, and that your work has really got me thinking about

what I want out of my work in progress, so I picked up a bench seat today from

the pull your own place for $20.00 (wed is %50 off ) tore everything out and

found a few interesting things I think we all can laugh about.

Sadly after working on it wanted to put it back on the side of the house my

clutch that I new was on it's last leg gave out.

Gregski 03-04-2015 10:49 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by cnorth (Post 7076506)
Would just like to say that your work on Rusty has been outstanding you should

be very proud of yourself, and that your work has really got me thinking about

what I want out of my work in progress, so I picked up a bench seat today from

the pull your own place for $20.00 (wed is %50 off ) tore everything out and

found a few interesting things I think we all can laugh about.

Sadly after working on it wanted to put it back on the side of the house my

clutch that I new was on it's last leg gave out.

thank you so much, now here is what archeologists would infer from what you found if they did not see what vehicle it came from, wasp nest probably a truck, couple twenty two rounds, I'm guessing late 70s maybe a 78 or 79 definitely not an 80s truck, shotgun shell that's easy that makes it a 4x4 fer sure, what else is there is that a 9mm Montana maybe, hee hee - how did I do?

Gregski 03-04-2015 10:57 PM

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UNBELIEVABLE

So I git home and I figure I better go take a look at Rusty. So I grab a flashlight and crawl under him, he's parked on the street right in front of my house cause we couldn't get him in the driveway last night.

Things look dry as a bone, no leak in the fuel lines that I can see. Hmm I think to myself, I might want to turn him over to git that fuel pump a pumpin a bit to build up some pressure if possible maybe expose that leak.

Low and behold he fires right up, ready to go... like that lazy ol' dog laying by the kitchen table that jumps up when you grab your hat and open the front door to head out, he's right beside you now... where we going, were we going, are we going for a walk, know what I mean

so I shut him off, and wait a minute or two and try again, he fires right up

so I pull him in the garage, and shut him down, then I wait a minute and try to start him again, and he fires right up

so I say fine lemme Lupricate that shifter and put the turtle shell back on, let me put the gauge cluster lense and cover back on (took it off to install the new speedo cable remember) then I do a couple other things and about an hour or so later... he fires right up again, so I pull him out of the garage and park him in the driveway

I don't like the games Rusty is playing I'm guessing the good gasoline I'm pouring in him is going straight to his heads (get it, LOL)

Gregski 03-04-2015 11:03 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Parking Brake Release Handle
 
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so which is it is it called a Parking Brake or an Emergency Brake?

either way I replaced the parking/emergency brake release handle with a used one I found at a junk yard, it's all about the little things with these old trucks, and there is a 1/2 ton (get it, C10) of little things to fix on 'em

Note: my old handle had this intelligent metal clip that you can remove and snap back on in 2 seconds, the one I pulled from the junk yard had a god forsaked plastic one that took me for ever to get out and I might have even damaged/mangled it in the process

Gregski 03-04-2015 11:06 PM

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Lets find the source of that Pavement Lubrication System shall we?

Man this guy's lost his mind, isn't that Baby Powder? what in the world is he gonna do with that Baby Powder? I don't wanna know... wait what, he sprinkled it all over the back of the motor, the valve covers, the bellhousing...hmmm that's hecka smart dude, where did you learn that?

cnorth 03-04-2015 11:17 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7076558)
thank you so much, now here is what archeologists would infer from what you found if they did not see what vehicle it came from, wasp nest probably a truck, couple twenty two rounds, I'm guessing late 70s maybe a 78 or 79 definitely not an 80s truck, shotgun shell that's easy that makes it a 4x4 fer sure, what else is there is that a 9mm Montana maybe, hee hee - how did I do?


Spot if I do say, and those were just the one's that escaped the shop-vac

would you mind telling me where you picked up the rebuild parts for the clutch

adjuster linkage thingy, (sorry not sure what it is even called )

Gregski 03-04-2015 11:43 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by cnorth (Post 7076605)
would you mind telling me where you picked up the rebuild parts for the clutch

adjuster linkage thingy, (sorry not sure what it is even called )

if you mean the bellcrank also called the Z-bar than I got the guts for it from Summit, but check out this guys thread to see if this is what you mean

http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/sm...?topic=28126.0

these ball stud seats may be what you need, the black ones are for 73-87 I think, and the ones I got may have been for the 67-72 turcks but oh well, I made it work

https://www.yearone.com/Product/1967...gmc-truck/gr36

cnorth 03-04-2015 11:48 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Yes that is it, Z bar for the life of me I could not remember the name
thank you

Odaroloc 03-05-2015 12:11 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Very cool man!

Gregski 03-05-2015 01:13 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Anatomy of a Kick Panel
 
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the forecast for the weekend says it will be in the lower to mid 70s* F you know what that means, maybe we could paint something

now be quiet when you read this (the wife is asleep upstairs)

and we gots to disassemble, wash, sand and prep them these kick panels (air vents as LMC Truck calls em) so we can rattle can them flat black this weekend with that upholstery paint like we did them door panels to match ~ it's what I call Red Neck Detailin'

Gregski 03-05-2015 01:26 AM

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now LMC Truck wants $30 American dollars for one of these there "air vent valves" and if we do the math, we need two of 'em so that's $60 plus another $14 for shippin'

we need these because the rubber has deteriorated around the edges so they won't make a proper seal

can we do better than that fellas, have any of youz tackled this delicate situation, holler at me if you have

I found just the rubber Kick panel vent seal repair kit for 1967-1972 Chevy/GMC trucks. from Year One for $6 bucks wonder if it will work, if they is the same size? For that price it's worth taking a shot

all we gots to do is drill out the rivets holding this oreo cookie together and replace da fillin'


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