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Gregski 01-06-2016 10:39 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
The GRANT Steering Wheel Installation Instructions are completely horrible!

Jeramy 01-06-2016 10:41 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
yes they are. had to replace my adapter few weeks ago due to three little bolts stripping out

Gregski 01-06-2016 11:18 PM

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came home from work today and decided to get wheel, had an hour before having to take my daughter coat shopping, no problem I thought, plenty of time to install that Grant steering wheel, I didn't even change into my work clothes just threw on my favorite gray hoodie over my work shirt

I removed the stock steering wheel and plopped down in my little camping red chair and pored over the FOUR sets of instructions, yes not 1 not 2, not 3, but 4 sets of instructions that came with the steering wheel and the installation kit

Too many instructions written by someone on Opposites Day, were only my first problem, non of them tell you where to stop removing the old parts, I mean that seems like a logical question right, you pop off the plastic horn button with a flat screw driver, unscrew the three philips screws in that metal horn ring take that off, then you pull of the steering wheel, so far so good, but then what? Do you keep going? The instructions don't tell you where to stop. The tiny pictures sure look like you have to remove that metal cover to expose that ring with the teeth on it around the outside edges, but nope, I think you leave that metal cover on.

I did not take step by step pictures, because quite frankly I did not know what the heck I was doing.

Then they give you two of everything. Two sets of screws (you end up using the set they tell you may not need, LOL) Two sets of horn wires. Two horn buttons, etc.

They tell you to route the provided horn wire one way, but nope, the hub they give you surely shows you there is a better way to route it.

Now I am not ranting and complaining, I am just sharing with you the experiences and the process I went through that's all.

flashed 01-06-2016 11:27 PM

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Still patiently waiting ............................................but its worth the wait ,carry on to your regularly scheduled program.

Gregski 01-06-2016 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flashed (Post 7437991)
Still patiently waiting ............................................but its worth the wait ,carry on to your regularly scheduled program.

yes, thank you kindly for [ahem] patiently waiting, LOL

here it is, I like how it looks, I will take better pics in the daytime tomorrow, dang it I forgot to lay the new wheel on top of the old one to compare the diameter difference if any

feels wheelie nice!

rusty76 01-07-2016 05:35 PM

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Wheel looks good.

flashed 01-07-2016 08:05 PM

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Looks great ,bout time too .LOL

Man With A Gun 01-07-2016 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregski (Post 7437999)

feels wheelie nice!

You wouldn't steer us wrong, now, wouldja?

Gregski 01-07-2016 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rusty76 (Post 7438784)
Wheel looks good.

thanks, feels good too, we will see how it handles soon...

Gregski 01-07-2016 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by flashed (Post 7438949)
Looks great ,bout time too .LOL

thanks, sorry it took so long

Gregski 01-07-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by man with a gun (Post 7438971)
you wouldn't steer us wrong, now, wouldja?

well played!

Gregski 01-07-2016 08:55 PM

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alright it's almost been 24 hours since we bolted up something to the truck, so what you got for us today Mr. Postman

Buckle Up!

flashed 01-07-2016 09:21 PM

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Those look nice .

Gregski 01-07-2016 10:30 PM

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Alright Greg we know there's no Thursday Night Football tonight, so how's the seat belt installation goink?

Gregski 01-07-2016 10:33 PM

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Alright Greg we know there's no Thursday Night Football tonight, so how's the seat belt installation goink?

Glad you asked handsum!

First we start by uninstalling the old passendger side seat belt. Always do the passenger side first. (no just kidding it don't matter, I'm just checking if anyone is actually reading these here words)

One bolt holds the retractor thingie to the floor by the B pillar

Gregski 01-07-2016 10:36 PM

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WARNING

NEVER attach, anchor, or secure more than one mounting end of a seatbelt with a single mounting bolt or eyebolt... [ahem] unless you are GM, than go right ahead!

Gregski 01-07-2016 10:38 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty - Passenger Seat Belts
 
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old (two point) and new (three point) passenger side seat belts comparacised...

Gregski 01-07-2016 10:41 PM

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man these belts are nice, the LMC Truck catalog said you would need to use your old hardware, but dang they came with grade 8 hardware, even the shoulder bracket came with a bolt in case your 1973-74 truck did not have three point seat belts, like mine... nice... (or is it)...

Gregski 01-07-2016 10:46 PM

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things were going well till my wife came home (from work) ~ LOL ~ you know like when the guy blames his wife for walking in the living room for his favorite football
team missing the extra point (in the dome for crying out loud)

anyway, it was time for some problems

first you would think that if we buy our seat belt set from LMC Truck that said seat belt set would bolt right up / fit our truck!!!

but no, the shoulder bracket bolt is too small and the threads are fine instead of coarse (not exactly sure what threads it has, but it don't matter, we had to toss it) luckily being forward thinking we got two stock bolts off of a 1975+ truck the last time we freaquented our favorite junk yard

worth mentioning is that my 1974 truck came with the holes for the shoulder belts, just didn't have the factory shoulder belts installed yet, did I mention I love this truck!

Gregski 01-07-2016 10:54 PM

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ok, yipee skippy Greg, so the shoulder bracket bolts were the wrong kind, big deal, so what, move on man, how did the rest of the install go

well, more problems, first the specific exactly precise truck belt set which LMC Truck claims is for our trucks, had problems with the bottom brackets too, the stock bolts they insist we use are too large for the holes in the brackets, and I did not want to weaken the brackets by enlarging the holes, these are safety seat belts for crying out loud, I think you will agree

pic is upside down for demonstration purposes only, see how the stock bolt won't go all the way through that hole

Gregski 01-07-2016 10:58 PM

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so I turned on the other half of my brain and decided to figure out this dilemma

I would utilize the 90* brackets they provided me and bolt them to the floor using the stock bolt and then mount the seat belt to this bracket using one of the new grade 8 bolts

problem = solution

I believe that could work, the seat belt don't bind, it retracts real well

franken 01-07-2016 11:06 PM

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None of my business, but I wouldn't do it that way. We/I try not to buy from LMC but that's another story.
The longer bolts in my small mind add leverage at the pivot point, which increases the likelihood the bolt will break in a wreck.
More clever people will chime in, but I'd get SAE washers from napa in the meantime.
The bolt in the pic looks like a floor bolt. Not sure ir they're the same.

Gregski 01-08-2016 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by franken (Post 7439226)
None of my business, but I wouldn't do it that way. We/I try not to buy from LMC but that's another story.
The longer bolts in my small mind add leverage at the pivot point, which increases the likelihood the bolt will break in a wreck.
More clever people will chime in, but I'd get SAE washers from napa in the meantime.
The bolt in the pic looks like a floor bolt. Not sure ir they're the same.

which part are you referring to?

Gregski 01-08-2016 12:10 AM

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with the passenger aka "wife" side done it was time to move on to the middle aka the "girlfriend" seat belt

here they are old and new for comparison, both are simple two point lap belts only

Gregski 01-08-2016 12:13 AM

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of note are the differences in length between the side belts and the middle belt, here they are for comparison, the middle belt female buckle section is longer than the side ones

Gregski 01-08-2016 12:15 AM

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since No One asked I decided to share pics of the factory bolt holes on my 1974 for the shoulder belt brackets, not sure how my green truck turned out yellow in these pics, ha ha. I just used a small flat screw driver to pry these little round plastic blanks out to expose the rusty holes which are threaded and ready to go

Gregski 01-08-2016 12:17 AM

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and a bad pic of the final product, it was late, it was dark, it was cold... sorry best I could do for now

it's done, I like it, I'm happy, scratch another item off the list!

Matt Man 01-08-2016 12:20 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
I got the same seat belts, had the same problem with the bolt. I like the quality, only negative about them is you have to pull them really slowly or else they will lock up.

Gregski 01-08-2016 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Man (Post 7439309)
I got the same seat belts, had the same problem with the bolt. I like the quality, only negative about them is you have to pull them really slowly or else they will lock up.

Thanks for the feedback Matt, do you think Brothers and or Classic Parts sell the exact same type? And did you get the middle one too? If so how did you mount it?

Matt Man 01-08-2016 12:27 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
I think I mounted it under where the passenger belt bolts in. Not a huge deal for me since I rarely have more than 2 people in my truck.

Heres a picture:
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/p...627_131050.jpg

daddyjeep 01-08-2016 01:41 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by franken (Post 7439226)
None of my business, but I wouldn't do it that way. We/I try not to buy from LMC but that's another story.
The longer bolts in my small mind add leverage at the pivot point, which increases the likelihood the bolt will break in a wreck.
More clever people will chime in, but I'd get SAE washers from napa in the meantime.
The bolt in the pic looks like a floor bolt. Not sure ir they're the same.

Are you referring to the bolt on the B pillar? Is it longer to accommodate trim? I know the ones on my Jeep are long like that so they extend through the roll bar padding.

Gregski 01-08-2016 08:00 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty - a GM Haiku
 
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another day
another part
some say it's junk
I say it's art

68Timber 01-08-2016 08:11 PM

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Good to see they got some in stock.

Gregski 01-09-2016 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 7440192)
Good to see they got some in stock.

Actually John they only had the passenger side in stock, they were out of the driver side. I wanted to get both. Summit has both sides but they are $10 bucks more each.

Gregski 01-09-2016 06:15 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Wow installing the new replacement window regulator is a bear! Which roller wheels of the three do you put in first? Any tips / advice greatly appreciated.

midnight rambler 01-10-2016 01:25 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
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Originally Posted by Chaplain (Post 7441840)
Watch this guy. He's your video counterpart. Not as entertaining as you but he documents like you.

http://youtu.be/ZkbA3iP6Xzo

Ive been following that guy on youtube for awhile he does document every detail

TrailerTrash 01-10-2016 10:31 AM

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the seat belt retractors are not supposed to be mounted on the floor. check out my pics in this thread

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...&highlight=lmc

Gregski 01-10-2016 12:25 PM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaplain (Post 7441840)
Watch this guy. He's your video counterpart. Not as entertaining as you but he documents like you.

http://youtu.be/ZkbA3iP6Xzo

Yes, LOL, thank you I have seen Payton Manings work, ha ha, sorry he sounds like Payton Maning the NFL quarterback. Very nice guy and very detailed videos. He removes the vent window, which is what I finally decided to do, didn't want to at first, but heck maybe that's the only way, we shall see later today, it's Sunday already. Yesterday I gave it three good attempts in between the NFL playoffs, ha ha

y5mgisi 01-11-2016 10:18 PM

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I just put my windows back together and can't remember! The biggie is getting the rollers all in BEFORE you bolt the regulator back in and using the window crank to spin the regulator into position.

hawkeyegold 01-12-2016 11:20 AM

Re: Restoring Rusty
 
just found this gem of a thread... can't put it down!!


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